hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.

[Cape90]

Cape might be scum here. In the last 5 posts he has FoSed me, math, johnny, luke and marci just riling people up.

If I had to guess, there are 2 scum that are claiming PRs and 1 scum that is claiming VT. In fact I am certain of that

marcistar (doc mix with tracker but more doc)/Johnny (1-shot Loyal BG)/Titus (X-Shot Rolecop???)/MathBlade (Vouyer)/Possibly Toogeloo idfk/Enchant (voyeur part 2)

I think I will roll with Titus/Johnny +1 world

VT Claims = me/Lukewarm/Maria/Toog?????

Notice how it's like 3/4 VT's versus 5/6 PR's?

I pretty much hard TR everyone else (well almost hard TR Enchant, mild paranoia but I am like 95% sure town there).

Hahahahahahahhaahahha

If people are voting Titus, I'm in.

Acting like there ain't like 3 or so mafia left

Get out of town

[Cape90]

If this flips town, you are dead to me, got it

Man I just got here

You have like 10 days to change my mind. There quite literally is no pressure compared to most other form of mafia

[marcistar]

would titus buddy me of all ppl tho?

[JohnnyFarrar]

So wait do we not have a mech win? I haven't really thought critically about the game since hearing that

[Titus]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.7 !

Big Chungus Gaming (4):

KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo, Frogsterking

Save The Dragons (3):

Gamma Emerald, Charloux, Enchant

Frogsterking (3):

Greeting, Big Chungus Gaming, Save The Dragons

MalcolmTucker (1):

MariaR

Cape90 (1):

SirRhett

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

Enchant (1):

Cape90

not voting (2):

MalcolmTucker, Fennec

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

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Furtive
Dragons
Pooky
MariaR

Is disproven by the D1 greeting wagon

viewtopic.php?p=13520704#p13520704 1.9 (sorry mobile)

That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.

Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.

So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.

I'm feeling a Pooky+Dragons+furtive+BCG scum team right about now.

VOTE: furtive

This was Frogsterking's last readwall before being shot. He was shot BEFORE not mafia or math who could in theory cause a clear chain giving us arguably an extra clear or scumfirm.

We know Furtiveglance was wrong.

If we do lim Johnny and it flips scum, I want Luke tomorrow. No questions asked.

Then we sort Math/Cape.

[Titus]

So wait do we not have a mech win? I haven't really thought critically about the game since hearing that

We don't because Math spammed out the right play and wouldn't listen.

Ideally we'd do Luke today but I'm going to get spammed down again.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Alright, is anyone actually 100% confirmed? I gotta start solving for my life it seems

[Cape90]

Nobody is 100% confirmed. The person who was the closest just died so

[Toogeloo]

This was Frogsterking's last readwall before being shot. He was shot BEFORE not mafia or math who could in theory cause a clear chain giving us arguably an extra clear or scumfirm.

We know Furtiveglance was wrong.

If we do lim Johnny and it flips scum, I want Luke tomorrow. No questions asked.

Then we sort Math/Cape.

I'm in agreement, mostly. I still strongly suspect Maria, and feel they are being largely ignored and would include that in the sorting as well.

[Lukewarm]

Okay, reading through the night actions.

Enchant saw that there was 1 invest on Marci. Math saw that there was 1 invest on Marci. Titus saw that Enchant is a night 3 voyeur.

Enchant forced all of those claims to come out in the order that proved Titus is a role cop, and proved that Math is a Voyuer. And because of titus's role, enchant's role is also confirmed.

Math: Vouyer
Titus: Rolecop
Enchant: Vouyer

All confirmed, (unless specifically Enchant+Titus scum team together I guess)

Not Mafia agreed to try and kill of Marci, and she did not die, so she is confirmed town, right?

The only PR claim that is not a confirmed PR then is Johnny now? IF we don't kill him today, then Titus should be on him, right

6 invest + a vig seems like too much (Math, titus, enchant, marci, Frog, furtive), so I gotta believe that there is scum in there. Looking at the list, Titus would be my best guess. Pooky did not look partnered with Math, and he has been putting in the work to create clears, and the way that enchant forced out the claims today was pretty impressive. Most pro-town play I think I have ever seen from enchant actually lol. Marci was not killed by NM

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I am down for either Johnny or Titus for today

[Lukewarm]

IF we don't kill him today, then Titus should be on him, right

Wait, forget this if we are killing one of them today lmao

[MathBlade]

Alright, is anyone actually 100% confirmed? I gotta start solving for my life it seems

Marci is 95% confirmed. The only way Marci can be scum is if NM was roleblocked N3.

[MathBlade]

To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc

I don’t believe that I just find it possible

[Cape90]

Thinking about it, I suppose having 2 weakish town protectives makes a lot more sense then a full on rolecop and a partial rolecop

VOTE: Titus

While I haven't found Johnny to be particularly useful at all, Titus has seemingly an obvious agenda today in my view.

[Titus]

Lol Cape's scum.

Moving on.

[Titus]

To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc

I don’t believe that I just find it possible

This is correct.

Cape+Luke is near certain.

Johnny is likely a flubbed the claim scenario and thus must be eliminated before elo.

[MathBlade]

To be clear I find that Marci scum is unlikely but not impossible if Marci odd night RB even night combined tracker doc

I don’t believe that I just find it possible

This is correct.

Cape+Luke is near certain.

Johnny is likely a flubbed the claim scenario and thus must be eliminated before elo.

I’d rather take my time.

Work backwards from we know scum had a two shot follower.
Then figure out what else they have.
Because if the roles have to be divvied up in a certain manner (ie between two current scum)
Then VT checks are likely innos.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Enchant
JohnnyFarrar
Lukewarm
Cape90
Titus
Toogeloo
MathBlade
marcistar
MariaR

With 16 original players that's, what, 5 scum? 4? So we might be in Elo right now?

Ok I'll start with Enchant

[MathBlade]

I’m pretty sure that’s where I will end up

It’s more trying to find the protective there.

Mainly I think scum need some way to mess with this confirmation chain I built D1 (granted I was an idiot readwose) but mechanically I wasn’t.

[Titus]

I’m pretty sure that’s where I will end up

It’s more trying to find the protective there.

Mainly I think scum need some way to mess with this confirmation chain I built D1 (granted I was an idiot readwose) but mechanically I wasn’t.

Shoot you? Any protective gets eliminated....Refusal to coordinate, lots of odd man out lims (furtiveglance, enchant, bodyguard claim).

VTs are not innos. Go back to basics and vca please if you're town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Dunno what I was expecting from reading enchants ISO, bunch of fake claims, a hammer on town. Trust levels low. They're also efforting, which I've never seen before? Does scum Enchant effort?

[Toogeloo]

I want to get this off my chest real quick.

Last minute Hero solve (don't take seriously, "yet"): Johnny, Maria, Titus.

Titus is my big paranoia read. Scum Rolecop is completely plausible.

Running theory is that Johnny is being cut loose by the scum team. Titus is lining up the eliminations afterwards to carry the scum to the end.

I'm not discounting the possibility that Luke might be aligned with Johnny, but something just seems fishy to me all of a sudden.

[Toogeloo]

Feels better.

[MathBlade]

I’m pretty sure that’s where I will end up

It’s more trying to find the protective there.

Mainly I think scum need some way to mess with this confirmation chain I built D1 (granted I was an idiot readwose) but mechanically I wasn’t.

Shoot you? Any protective gets eliminated....Refusal to coordinate, lots of odd man out lims (furtiveglance, enchant, bodyguard claim).

VTs are not innos. Go back to basics and vca please if you're town.

I am going back to basics.

It’s proven my ability to do reads sucks.

However my ability to get scum dead through mechanics is not.

I want to focus on what I am demonstratably good at.

[Cape90]

Titus is trying to kill more VT claims LMFAO. Titus not wanting to kill in the 3 power role counter claims is very telling they want to milk VT deaths as much as possible, which by default probably means Luke is town if Titus is wolf.

About Enchant, they hammered the vote on Malcolm over 2 days in advance. Town love playing anti-town so my money is on Enchant just being town for that reason, but theoretically, sounds like a silly reason to clear someone.