Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Grib]

I low-key want to die so I won’t have to deal with the inevitable clusterfuck that Day 4 will be.

[Elements]

VOTE: Enchant

[Grib]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Enchant

[Elements]

Despite thinking I'm likely scum you're very happy to follow my vote

[Grib]

I don’t think you are. PoE just makes it really hard for me to see two mafia elsewhere. What does the game look like if we’re both town? And can you answer Aisa, because I have the same question.

[Elements]

I don't think Frog is scum

[Elements]

I'm not enjoying playing with them

[Grib]

:/

[Grib]

I'm not enjoying this game at all tbh, but that's more because it just feels like no matter how I flip my reads, they're all wrong somehow. I think I was better off not playing mafia.

[Grib]

But let's explore some worlds? Say you and I are spontaneous ICs. That leaves:

Aisa
Eiralox
Bellaphant
Enchant
NM
Frog

Bella is the Vig. I have serious doubts about Eira, but Bella supports him, and NM also spoke up for him. I'm making a big assumption there but it seems like Eira might be a townfirmable role? I dunno.

Aisa
Enchant
NM
Frog

I'm going to leave this as our scum pool, to be as generous with our options as possible. There are some factors at play (I think Aisa is town, NM could go either way, Frog claimed a town role), but assuming both of us to be town, this is what we have to work with.

[Grib]

Regardless of both of our alignments, there is guaranteed to be at least one scum in that list, unless the team is exactly Grib/Eira or Elements/Eira, so that seems to be the best place to start.

[Grib]

Aisa Enchant
Aisa NM
Aisa Frog
Enchant NM
Enchant Frog
NM Frog

And then these are all possible teams that include neither of us, Bella, or Eira.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Enchant

Wait wtf

[Enchant]

It is just Enchant to claim.

Sorry if this has been answered - Elements, how do you propose that Frog is scum if no one else is claiming doctor and the Masons were Macho?

ok

I am Innocent Child.

[Grib]

Bella, can you please give a percentage of how likely Eira is to be town? Because if it's not 100% on the dot, then I need a claim. If it's 100%, I'll let it go.

[Elements]

Aisa Enchant
Aisa NM
Aisa Frog
Enchant NM
Enchant Frog
NM Frog

And then these are all possible teams that include neither of us, Bella, or Eira.

I'm willing to vote NM, Enchant, Frog, You today. That is my pool

[Enchant]

Aisa Enchant
Aisa NM
Aisa Frog
Enchant NM
Enchant Frog
NM Frog

And then these are all possible teams that include neither of us, Bella, or Eira.

I'm willing to vote NM, Enchant, Frog, You today. That is my pool

Wha, you don't even believe i am IC?

[Bellaphant]

I'm a complex vig. I should be able to shoot in the VT claims and have what is basically an inno? Or am I wrong?

[Grib]

What the fuck.

[Grib]

I want to say yes, assuming that BBT was the only mafia goon.

Problem is if there's a roleblocker then nothing happens.

[Grib]

Wait, so why didn't you at least fire at anyone Night 2? After a goon flipped?

[Grib]

So that people don't have to look it up:

Complex is a role modifier that modifies the way in which an active action is used; it causes the action to fail, as though it were roleblocked, when used against a player who is vanilla. In other words, only power roles will be affected by a Complex action; other players are too simple to be worth your while.

[Grib]

Ok, I want to completely eliminate all tinfoil worlds where Frog is scum, because town having macho Masons and a Vig that can ONLY kill power roles with no Doctor is a stupid setup and if we lose to it then whatever.

[Grib]

So that people don't have to look it up:

Complex is a role modifier that modifies the way in which an active action is used; it causes the action to fail, as though it were roleblocked, when used against a player who is vanilla. In other words, only power roles will be affected by a Complex action; other players are too simple to be worth your while.

Actually, would you even be able to tell the difference between a roleblocked result and a vanilla result?

[Enchant]

I'm a complex vig. I should be able to shoot in the VT claims and have what is basically an inno? Or am I wrong?

You are wrong.

Mafia Goon will survive Complex shot.