Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[furtiveglance]

Or do you SR Dann?

Less so, just voting with Bell who I think is mechanically Town. Also happy to vote Cephrir

[Lukewarm]

Hey Luke is there some reason you want to save Danflorr other than that you would expect that no matter what was going on with them they would absolutely post something if they were scum?

I dont think that Dann and catboi were partnered after reading their wall off at each other day 1, and of the two, I think that Junko is more likely the scum between the two

[Lukewarm]

Don't vote JunkoChan, vote with us cool people on Dannflor

Do you TR Junko?

Yes, fairly strongly. I'm surprised they have even 2 votes.

Want to put more words to this? lol

Is this solely based on Junko, or were you thinking that the slot was town before the rep?

[Freedom]

Don't vote JunkoChan, vote with us cool people on Dannflor

Do you TR Junko?

Yes, fairly strongly. I'm surprised they have even 2 votes.

Then, why aren't you voting them for a ceremony?
I'm literallly the only one nominating anyone. (Though it's Luke because he claimed Neighborizer and I want to be in a hood.)

[Freedom]

Or do you SR Dann?

Less so, just voting with Bell who I think is mechanically Town. Also happy to vote Cephrir

Can you explain the Ceph SR?

[Freedom]

Or is he just a compromise?

[Bell]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

[Bell]

Only Junko has claimed a role remaining that can effect the course of the game in a positive manner if they're town.

[Bell]

Hey Luke is there some reason you want to save Danflorr other than that you would expect that no matter what was going on with them they would absolutely post something if they were scum?

I dont think that Dann and catboi were partnered after reading their wall off at each other day 1, and of the two, I think that Junko is more likely the scum between the two

...K.

[Freedom]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

Can you explain this?
I feel like Luke's role has no real benefit to scum unless he wants to pocket people.
Ceph, as scum, can confirm himself. (I see no point why this will help scum.)
Junko, as scum, can prevent any further Vig shots. (Though, since you already shot Penguin, this is useless.)
S_S, as scum, can prevent Town from doing things on odd Nights.
So, as long as we don't activate Junko and S_S, we have no reason to fear scum gets buffed.

[Freedom]

Correction: As long as we don't give S_S a PR, there is no reason to worry scum gets buffed.
(Because, I forgot that Junko has a useless role if they're scum.)

[Lukewarm]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

Can you explain this?
I feel like Luke's role has no real benefit to scum unless he wants to pocket people.
Ceph, as scum, can confirm himself. (I see no point why this will help scum.)
Junko, as scum, can prevent any further Vig shots. (Though, since you already shot Penguin, this is useless.)
S_S, as scum, can prevent Town from doing things on odd Nights.
So, as long as we don't activate Junko and S_S, we have no reason to fear scum gets buffed.

You are assuming that me and ceph are telling the truth in this post, while Bell is hedging against the possibility of one of us secretly being a Super Powerful Scum Role.

[Lukewarm]

With your correction, that the also applies to Junko lol

[Lukewarm]

Hey Luke is there some reason you want to save Danflorr other than that you would expect that no matter what was going on with them they would absolutely post something if they were scum?

I dont think that Dann and catboi were partnered after reading their wall off at each other day 1, and of the two, I think that Junko is more likely the scum between the two

...K.

I mean, I have made the case that they were not partnered, and made my case on Junko.

Do you actually want to engage with why I think this, or just post this?

[Freedom]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

Can you explain this?
I feel like Luke's role has no real benefit to scum unless he wants to pocket people.
Ceph, as scum, can confirm himself. (I see no point why this will help scum.)
Junko, as scum, can prevent any further Vig shots. (Though, since you already shot Penguin, this is useless.)
S_S, as scum, can prevent Town from doing things on odd Nights.
So, as long as we don't activate Junko and S_S, we have no reason to fear scum gets buffed.

You are assuming that me and ceph are telling the truth in this post, while Bell is hedging against the possibility of one of us secretly being a Super Powerful Scum Role.

I guess that you could be right but only fire ever fakeclaimed and both you and Ceph can have your role confirmed if we can eliminate scum today.
Junko could be fakeclaiming though as they can just choose not to kill and pretend to have saved somebody.

[Freedom]

So, I guess that maybe we just don't give ceremonies until one scum is left and then we give you and Ceph powers.
Then, nobody gets powers afterwards.
Does this sound like a good plan?
(Assuming, scum doesn't go and NK both you and Ceph. Or I have bad reads.)

[Lukewarm]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

Can you explain this?
I feel like Luke's role has no real benefit to scum unless he wants to pocket people.
Ceph, as scum, can confirm himself. (I see no point why this will help scum.)
Junko, as scum, can prevent any further Vig shots. (Though, since you already shot Penguin, this is useless.)
S_S, as scum, can prevent Town from doing things on odd Nights.
So, as long as we don't activate Junko and S_S, we have no reason to fear scum gets buffed.

You are assuming that me and ceph are telling the truth in this post, while Bell is hedging against the possibility of one of us secretly being a Super Powerful Scum Role.

I guess that you could be right but only fire ever fakeclaimed and both you and Ceph can have your role confirmed if we can eliminate scum today.
Junko could be fakeclaiming though as they can just choose not to kill and pretend to have saved somebody.

With us being this close to Melo, not giving me or ceph a power is probably smart.

Something like a scum!Vig could actually cost us the game, and there if very little benefit for either of us acting.

Spoiler:

We are currently at 2v6, if we miselim today then tomorrow is Melo.
Over night me/ceph claim that we targeted who ever night killed, so our ability can't be proven. "sad"
Tomorrow we No Kill to get from Melo -> Elo

Scum normal night kill plus scum vig = we lose when we thought we were safe to go to Elo

Yes that seems incredibly unlikely, but also, there is not really a positive for activating either of us that I can think of

[Lukewarm]

So, I guess that maybe we just don't give ceremonies until one scum is left and then we give you and Ceph powers.
Then, nobody gets powers afterwards.
Does this sound like a good plan?
(Assuming, scum doesn't go and NK both you and Ceph. Or I have bad reads.)

If either of us had useful abilities, it would probably be worth considering activating us.

But like... neither of us actually do anything lol

[Freedom]

Would strongly suggest no longer giving anyone powers at this point.
Based on the claims no benefit could come of it and you're more likely to give a buff to scum than town.

Can you explain this?
I feel like Luke's role has no real benefit to scum unless he wants to pocket people.
Ceph, as scum, can confirm himself. (I see no point why this will help scum.)
Junko, as scum, can prevent any further Vig shots. (Though, since you already shot Penguin, this is useless.)
S_S, as scum, can prevent Town from doing things on odd Nights.
So, as long as we don't activate Junko and S_S, we have no reason to fear scum gets buffed.

You are assuming that me and ceph are telling the truth in this post, while Bell is hedging against the possibility of one of us secretly being a Super Powerful Scum Role.

I guess that you could be right but only fire ever fakeclaimed and both you and Ceph can have your role confirmed if we can eliminate scum today.
Junko could be fakeclaiming though as they can just choose not to kill and pretend to have saved somebody.

With us being this close to Melo, not giving me or ceph a power is probably smart.

Something like a scum!Vig could actually cost us the game, and there if very little benefit for either of us acting.

Spoiler:

We are currently at 2v6, if we miselim today then tomorrow is Melo.
Over night me/ceph claim that we targeted who ever night killed, so our ability can't be proven. "sad"
Tomorrow we No Kill to get from Melo -> Elo

Scum normal night kill plus scum vig = we lose when we thought we were safe to go to Elo

Yes that seems incredibly unlikely, but also, there is not really a positive for activating either of us that I can think of

I see.
I did overlook the fact that as scum, you and Ceph could just target the NK.

[Freedom]

So, I guess that maybe we just don't give ceremonies until one scum is left and then we give you and Ceph powers.
Then, nobody gets powers afterwards.
Does this sound like a good plan?
(Assuming, scum doesn't go and NK both you and Ceph. Or I have bad reads.)

If either of us had useful abilities, it would probably be worth considering activating us.

But like... neither of us actually do anything lol

You could sort people that you neighborize. (At least, I would if I was you.)
I agree that Ceph does nothing but confirm that he is trueclaiming, though.

[Bell]

Based on the scum flips we have so far it's likely that their abilities benefit their team more constructively than the current claims.

As for responding in full, I'm just considering it. It feels slightly odd that you're including that because you don't think A and B are partners and you feel that B is more likely to be scum that we should kill B.
But I don't really understand why you're presenting that they don't appear to be aligned at all currently It feels unnecessary.

[Freedom]

Based on the scum flips we have so far it's likely that their abilities benefit their team more constructively than the current claims.

As for responding in full, I'm just considering it. It feels slightly odd that you're including that because you don't think A and B are partners and you feel that B is more likely to be scum that we should kill B.
But I don't really understand why you're presenting that they don't appear to be aligned at all currently It feels unnecessary.

Is the last part addressed to me?

[Bell]

No, the first part is.
Second part is to Luke.

[Bell]

That said, I'm actually okay with killing Junko First. Because I am insane.

[Lukewarm]

Based on the scum flips we have so far it's likely that their abilities benefit their team more constructively than the current claims.

As for responding in full, I'm just considering it. It feels slightly odd that you're including that because you don't think A and B are partners and you feel that B is more likely to be scum that we should kill B.
But I don't really understand why you're presenting that they don't appear to be aligned at all currently It feels unnecessary.

I mean, that is how I came to my decision to vote Junko.

Like, I had Junko+Dann as my solve earlier, and so I did not really care which was killed first, and was down for the Dann elim because he was part of my solve.

Then I read a portion that made me think that it was not junko + dann together, and that is what led me to evaluating between the two of them.

On his own I think that Dann is fairly scummy