Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Ydrasse]

i think this game so fucky we have to look at everyone again (obvious statemtn alert)

[MathBlade]

I just can’t find his partner in that world. I suppose you + FB is possible.

I think I am going to have to ask you to justify your scumread on me at this point.

I could sort of see why I might be wrongly suspected today in the sense that I was townreading, and thus avoiding the wagon on the only flipped scum, and I was involved in both town mislims, but I don't understand why you think I'm the only possible partner for a scum!fb.

You just feel slimy.

[Val89]

I'm not sure how that answers the question.

[Toto]

K so here is my new wacky theory:

1) Skitter is a mafia ascetic ninja roleblocker. She tried to block Math.
2) Ydra is a mafia ninja. They shot FB.

No one is dead. So the know one of them must have gotten roleblocked. Ydra claims works regardless of which of them, which is why they can claim earlier than FB.

I'm just paranoid here because I feel Ydra's claim today was a bit... theatrical.

[Toto]

No nvm I guess that doesn't work. Damn that was fun.

[Toto]

I guess it works without the ascetic.

[MathBlade]

I'm not sure how that answers the question.

It’s pretty simple. You feel wrong.

FB is my mechanical read.

Brain read + gut read = good start.

[MathBlade]

K so here is my new wacky theory:

1) Skitter is a mafia ascetic ninja roleblocker. She tried to block Math.
2) Ydra is a mafia ninja. They shot FB.

No one is dead. So the know one of them must have gotten roleblocked. Ydra claims works regardless of which of them, which is why they can claim earlier than FB.

I'm just paranoid here because I feel Ydra's claim today was a bit... theatrical.

That wouldn’t explain no deaths.

If I was roleblocked then FB would be dead in that world.

[Toto]

v2.0

K so here is my new wacky theory:

1) Skitter is a mafia

ascetic

ninja roleblocker. She tried to block Math.
2) Ydra is a mafia ninja. They shot FB.

No one is dead. So the know one of them must have gotten roleblocked. Ydra claims works regardless of which of them, which is why they can claim earlier than FB.

I'm just paranoid here because I feel Ydra's claim today was a bit... theatrical.

p-edit: skitter got jkept so you didn't.

[Ydrasse]

i am sorry but im not a normal person and this was standard for me
skull emoji

[MathBlade]

v2.0

K so here is my new wacky theory:

1) Skitter is a mafia

ascetic

ninja roleblocker. She tried to block Math.
2) Ydra is a mafia ninja. They shot FB.

No one is dead. So the know one of them must have gotten roleblocked. Ydra claims works regardless of which of them, which is why they can claim earlier than FB.

I'm just paranoid here because I feel Ydra's claim today was a bit... theatrical.

p-edit: skitter got jkept so you didn't.

Doesn’t work. Ascetic is immune to everything but kills.
So Skitter would have jailkept me
So FB dies

[Toto]

yeah which is why removed ascetic in 2.0

[MathBlade]

yeah which is why removed ascetic in 2.0

That’s logically possible but I don’t find it possible.

I think Ydrasse claims more than 1 shot in that world.

Because eventually we elim Ydrasse here it’s a matter of when. Ydrasse then flips scum, then we question why the inno.

[MathBlade]

Don’t find it probable*

[Toto]

Yeah don't disagree with that. Which is why it's just a wacky theory at this point. It's

possible

though.

I don't think I want to find out at ELO.

[Toto]

So here is another thing I'm wondering:

if watcher and jk target the same target, does the watcher see the JK?

[Val89]

I'm not convinced the existence of kitty alone justifies Totos role in the world Ydrasse is scum. There are plenty of VTs knocking about, and any one of us could have been given the informed modifier - it makes sense to me to give it to you if there is the possibility of false innos, in that making the source of that info beyond reproach at least gives us a reasonable, fair chance of figuring out it is a false inno before it turns into a free scum win.

[Toto]

How would you get false innos?

[Val89]

Town!Ydra hitting an ascetic. I don't think you needed to the one informed of the ninjas in a scum!Ydrasse world - I think the fact you are macho indicates the intent was that your power was in delivering that info and having it 100 percent reliable, but scum are still supposed to be able to kill you so.

Why that hasn't happened in another story, but I think that's what your role is for. Informed IC is too powerful with a guaranteed clear with a protective, Macho IC + someone else getting the info makes you meh, and risks the info being disbelieved. Town informed macho IC hits the sweet spot, provided its a town!Ydrasse, else outside of an elaborate trolly red-herring, what's the point?

[Toto]

provided its a town!Ydrasse, else outside of an elaborate trolly red-herring, what's the point?

I don't understand how Ydra being town or not plays a role, can you explain that more?

[MathBlade]

I’m just having trouble believing two town informed roles.

Like my mech brain is really struggling with Fire’s claim.

But if I don’t believe Fire then scum no killed twice which is even worse.

[Toto]

so fire claim could make sense in the context where JK, doctor and watcher were all going to target me on N1. But this town hates me. Mod did not anticipate that.

[Val89]

Everyone has claimed now, right?

If Ydrasse isn't town, why was it so important to reveal the existence of scum ninjas to town prior to finding out the usual way when scum start flipping? What other town power do we have that interacts with that?

[Toto]

If we believe the claims.

I think the most natural course of action was doctor and watcher target me on N1, watcher learns doc is town 100%. JK targets elsewhere because he knows I'm macho.

Can the watcher ever see the JK?

[MathBlade]

If we believe the claims.

I think the most natural course of action was doctor and watcher target me on N1, watcher learns doc is town 100%. JK targets elsewhere because he knows I'm macho.

Can the watcher ever see the JK?

I am ninja Doctor. That won’t work.