Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[innocentvillager]

If freedom is scum his agenda this entire game was to just act agreeable sheepy and as uninformed as possible

[MathBlade]

I think Freedom is scum purely based on gut. If we're looking int he wrong place being agreeable is a common scum tactic. I've done it before.

[MathBlade]

But i don't think Freedom scum thinks we have the cajones to elim Fire so it's a simple "townie" vote.

[Freedom]

That’s the main reason I can’t drop the Firebringer world.

But I think it’s more likely Firebringer isn’t a protective at all and wanted to frame someone.

I think Firebringer came up with that idea when he said I should be on him.

I have been keeping my shots close to the vest (for obvious reasons) but I think Fire’s plan was to frame Skitter.

What makes you think that Firebringer isn't just scum JK?

[MathBlade]

There's certain things mods tend not to do in 14 P Let's just say firebringer being JK is one of them given my role I just find it unlikely.

But maybe it's the angry orchard talking but I think a Fire elim would be well Fire

[MathBlade]

I mean 13 P I guess I can't count...Maybe 314 P Who is counting anyway XD

[Herta]

Ydra claimed role and the way it was presented just doesn't seem scummy

[innocentvillager]

also again i have to repeat for anyone who stupidly thinks im scum:
that people are ignoring for whatever reason no matter how many times i repeat it.
For me to be scum:
I would have to go for no kill 3 nights intentionally:
A) My slot is informed of Toto role. I know he can't be protected. If im scum could easily had pooky go for Toto and would never be found out.
B) I decided to buss pooky instead of calling math scum yesterday for my 'fake jk' (we are assuming for this argument im not jk)
C) I also am not trying to elim Skitter today even though i have soft guilty on her via no one dying. Yet everyone claims of this hypo world in which I AM THE ONE who is trying to frame her, even though arguing the exact opposite. Scum framing her by no killing or shooting me/skitter. Why should skitter. No clue

And finally and probably more importantly. What makes anyone think by play i am scum here. Ignoring the mechanics for 5 minutes cause we all should. What makes u think my interactions with pooky when i subbed in and called him scum, is me bussing. Do we have arguments on this?

Skitter im specifically looking at you for this, because ur being exceptionally lazy with analysis lately.

The only thing that really gives me pause here is A, but maybe for some reason you guys wanted to kill me n1 (not sure why but ok?) and then no killed later nights to confuse town.

B) Math is kinda obvtown and that would never realistically work so I could see you abandoning that plan

C) okay you say you aren’t trying to elim her but your result clearly still states it does so people are obviously going to draw their own conclusions from that which if you were scum you would know?

ur interactions with Pooky Im not good enough to determine with confidence that you two are unpartnered

[innocentvillager]

I think Freedom is scum purely based on gut. If we're looking int he wrong place being agreeable is a common scum tactic. I've done it before.

It’s so level zero I don’t think scum play level 0 they’re usually on level 1 or 2

[innocentvillager]

I have to admit that despite all this that freedom has drifted to my bottom 2 (Val Freedom) even though he doesn’t feel scummy

[innocentvillager]

are we like 98%+ sure on Kt being town by mech? The all mafia ninja public info shit makes zero sense without there being a real town watcher right? Also scum wouldn’t claim a major non gated role like that I assume

[Firebringer]

if whatever i do is going to make me possible scum.
I am not helping the town.

Gonna vote my scumreads. not help any of u solve. Might not even jailkeep and save shots.
Taking my ball and going home to play by myself.
Anti town fire is here.

[Firebringer]

Like I absolutely refuse to cooperate or help mathblade with this game.
He has proven to me that he is going to be against me for mechanics and no matter how much i shout "you can't solve this or figure out alignments in a datisi game with roles" he will scumread me.

This is how math brain works. You can't reason with it.

And I literally just finished a game with math where he scumread me the whole game. Including dead thread even after i got a guilty on the scum. He was still saying in dead thread "well fire play is so scummy he must be faking to get town cred"

Utterly ridiculous.

[MathBlade]

are we like 98%+ sure on Kt being town by mech? The all mafia ninja public info shit makes zero sense without there being a real town watcher right? Also scum wouldn’t claim a major non gated role like that I assume

Nope.

I am pretty sure one or the other is scum.

When I eventually die I think you’ll see why.

[Firebringer]

KT is town by play. Fucking ignore the role claims.

[Firebringer]

and i aint even going to entertain possibility u were roleblocked ydra

Why couldn’t Ydrasse have been continuously roleblocked by scum? (Eg scum skitter or whoever) she was softing some cool role after all

Because theres two protective claims that existed prior to night 3. Why would u go for ydra when u have no idea if she bluffing or what and not the JK/Doc.

This should be obvious.

[MathBlade]

I think Freedom is scum purely based on gut. If we're looking int he wrong place being agreeable is a common scum tactic. I've done it before.

It’s so level zero I don’t think scum play level 0 they’re usually on level 1 or 2

Admittedly yes…I don’t think I am capable of level 1 or 2 while tipsy. Brain be like “nope I am outta here.” Except maybe for simple random shinies

[MathBlade]

Dude like yes. If you were in my shoes you’d be sus of the JK claim too man.

I am alternating between partners and you because you scum requires so weird things like ???

[Firebringer]

Dude like yes. If you were in my shoes you’d be sus of the JK claim too man.

im literally in ur shoes on the other side.


VOTE: Skip

I want to see what scum do tonight.

[Firebringer]

do u not think for a minute that when i saw ur doc claim i went internally "2 protectives in a 13 player game? Thats weird". I even said i don't believe ur claim day 2. Partly out of hoping it would deter a kill on u, and other part because i had some doubts of the veracity of claim.

[innocentvillager]

and i aint even going to entertain possibility u were roleblocked ydra

Why couldn’t Ydrasse have been continuously roleblocked by scum? (Eg scum skitter or whoever) she was softing some cool role after all

Because theres two protective claims that existed prior to night 3. Why would u go for ydra when u have no idea if she bluffing or what and not the JK/Doc.

This should be obvious.

well sounds like the plan might’ve not been to get a kill so why would they need to block a Jk or Doc?

[innocentvillager]

Fire who is the scum in your eyes on day play if the mech is irrelevant?

[Firebringer]

im not helping u. Ive already said im not helping the town solve.

[innocentvillager]

relax

Deep breath

[Firebringer]

u realize telling someone to relax doesn't actually get them to relax right