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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:13 pm

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In post 496, Freedom wrote:
In post 474, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 472, Freedom wrote:
In post 471, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 467, Freedom wrote:
In post 464, Gimli wrote:okay. I still don't like it, but if everyone is fine with it, sure.

@freedom you're agreeing with mech talk but you're not bringing up at all that we're assuming you flip today? you're not defending yourself?
I missed that part.
I would prefer an elimination on Vanders tbh but it doesn't tha feel like hat wagon will get much traction.
I think that the plan is fine by itself in that I agree that we should be targeting TRs.
why do you think we should target trs???

bruh is this too scum to be scumm. make sure to include why


im surprised u haven't used chatgpt
In case we protect them, obviously.
why aren't you pushing vander ?
Did you miss the part where I tried to?
I got called OMGUS for doing that.
But I was the only person who said you were OMGUSing, right? Am I forgetting someone?
So why would that be an issue if the heat you're getting is from the person you're pushing on?


Also, you didn't really push me, you just agreed with someone else's case on me and then voted me.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:48 pm

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In post 499, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 490, Tabibitos wrote:
In post 487, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 485, Tabibitos wrote:Never mind I don't think I have a complete solve yet but I think I have decent reads maybe? Gonna drop them and some explaining on weekend hopefully
can u give basic 1 sentence explanation?
Of what? My reads?

I wanted to re read and mull over more before saying it in the thread but basically atm I think you and Gimli are town, you sound too excited to "vibe" with people contributing to the game and Gimli sounds like a classical newish townie trying to solve the game by picking the weirdest posts (weird =/= scummy)

Enchant more likely town than not for the vigging thing and I will try to make it sound less of a dumb reason later but it just strikes me as the sort of thing mafia wouldn't think about faking?

I have one scum lean though and two slots I am trying to decipher but 3 town reads in a micro D1 is a lot to me already?

I think I can get scum by PoE wih some luck

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Yeah I think this is the general direction of the town and I pretty much agree with it

Gimli and enchant are less town than you and grandpa but still town
idk why you townread this or think its town indictave. tabibitos hasn't done yet since their mech strat plan they came up with.

they are reading people that already have a general consensus on. u should have tabibitos below gimli and enchant imo
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:49 pm

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In post 479, Tabibitos wrote:I am gonna probably be around to effort his weekend

I don't like the current "plan"? It's basically my old plan and we found flaws on it right? Why are we doing it anyway if even elements math said it wasn't too good?
Did your plan protect conftown? Not really, right?

I think targeting townreads is worse than going no NAs. If we lim the JKer, or the doctor, our NAs have a 50% chance of killing our townreads (cpr and quack targeting opposing groups).

The plan is bad, I think.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:58 pm

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In post 500, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 496, Freedom wrote:
In post 474, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 472, Freedom wrote:
In post 471, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 467, Freedom wrote:
In post 464, Gimli wrote:okay. I still don't like it, but if everyone is fine with it, sure.

@freedom you're agreeing with mech talk but you're not bringing up at all that we're assuming you flip today? you're not defending yourself?
I missed that part.
I would prefer an elimination on Vanders tbh but it doesn't tha feel like hat wagon will get much traction.
I think that the plan is fine by itself in that I agree that we should be targeting TRs.
why do you think we should target trs???

bruh is this too scum to be scumm. make sure to include why


im surprised u haven't used chatgpt
In case we protect them, obviously.
why aren't you pushing vander ?
Did you miss the part where I tried to?
I got called OMGUS for doing that.
But I was the only person who said you were OMGUSing, right? Am I forgetting someone?
So why would that be an issue if the heat you're getting is from the person you're pushing on?


Also, you didn't really push me, you just agreed with someone else's case on me and then voted me.
Scol's case summed up my problems with you so I didn't add to it.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:03 pm

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In post 502, Gimli wrote:
In post 479, Tabibitos wrote:I am gonna probably be around to effort his weekend

I don't like the current "plan"? It's basically my old plan and we found flaws on it right? Why are we doing it anyway if even elements math said it wasn't too good?
Did your plan protect conftown? Not really, right?

I think targeting townreads is worse than going no NAs. If we lim the JKer, or the doctor, our NAs have a 50% chance of killing our townreads (cpr and quack targeting opposing groups).

The plan is bad, I think.
We should be targeting scumreads regardless of the Flip.

Sorry im phoneposting
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:00 pm

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In post 502, Gimli wrote:
In post 479, Tabibitos wrote:I am gonna probably be around to effort his weekend

I don't like the current "plan"? It's basically my old plan and we found flaws on it right? Why are we doing it anyway if even elements math said it wasn't too good?
Did your plan protect conftown? Not really, right?

I think targeting townreads is worse than going no NAs. If we lim the JKer, or the doctor, our NAs have a 50% chance of killing our townreads (cpr and quack targeting opposing groups).

The plan is bad, I think.
Nurse inherits whoever we kill. We always have all doctor actions night 1
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:05 pm

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In every scenario going into night 1 we have a doctor, a weak doctor and a jk.
If we kill town today:
One of our targets will be protected.
The other target has a chance to be killed which gives us the most possible information from this NA coordination.
The only way to prevent the night kill is if we have both scum as the targets which I have 0 faith in us doing. And even then it's still a 50/50

If we flip scum today
Idc what we do with night actions. We have enough time to mess about a bit
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:10 pm

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Whatever we flip today, the best case scenario with the 2 group is 3 town deaths because that gives us a 50/50 on scum
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:10 pm

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If not straight up tells us who scum is
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:51 pm

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Alright. That makes sense.

So we're just waiting on tabibitos.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:02 am

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In post 507, Elements wrote:Whatever we flip today, the best case scenario with the 2 group is 3 town deaths because that gives us a 50/50 on scum
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:24 am

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In post 509, Gimli wrote:Alright. That makes sense.

So we're just waiting on tabibitos.
Yup
Ima UNVOTE: while we wait just in case
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:40 am

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In post 507, Elements wrote:Whatever we flip today, the best case scenario with the 2 group is 3 town deaths because that gives us a 50/50 on scum
Awesome idea. What if we just don't?
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:11 am

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In post 512, Enchant wrote:
Awesome idea. What if we just don't?
would you rather not use any NAs, or use them on scumreads?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:13 am

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In post 513, Gimli wrote:
In post 512, Enchant wrote:
Awesome idea. What if we just don't?
would you rather not use any NAs, or use them on scumreads?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:27 am

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I prefer that too, enchant, but I couldn't convince anyone else of that. wanna give it a try?
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:29 am

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I'm down to doc target scum reads
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:36 am

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Can someone tell me what targeting scum reads achieves?
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:37 am

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^if we flip town today
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:46 am

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In post 517, Elements wrote:Can someone tell me what targeting scum reads achieves?
I changing my mind, i target Elements.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:48 am

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In post 517, Elements wrote:Can someone tell me what targeting scum reads achieves?
might kill'em - a 25% vig is much better on potential scum than on likely town.
might kill one of us in a way that makes them resolvable on d2 cause of weak

the best reason to do your plan is to make sure you have a 80 something percent chance of staying alive for d2. if you say you grasp the game to a level where you alive on d2 ruins everything for scum, then I can do it the way you prefer np.

but also... do you think you just prefer your plan because it keeps you alive?
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:52 am

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not that I don't prefer your company as well, elements.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:58 am

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50% chance you doing good by targeting mafia alone.

2/6 chance to kill them.
1/6 chance to roleblock them.
1/6 chance to die if you are Weak.
2/6 chance to not do anything, or just heal them.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:22 am

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In post 522, Enchant wrote:50% chance you doing good by targeting mafia alone.

2/6 chance to kill them.
1/6 chance to roleblock them.
1/6 chance to die if you are Weak.
2/6 chance to not do anything, or just heal them.
This doesn't take into account multiple people targeting the same player
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:28 am

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In post 519, Enchant wrote:
In post 517, Elements wrote:Can someone tell me what targeting scum reads achieves?
I changing my mind, i target Elements.
I'm starting to think the two groups thing isn't a great idea at all
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