Mini 2286: Legends of the Hidden Temple IV (Explorers Win!)

[Flea The Magician]

Thats what worries me. That open goal is just as open for scum if those two are town, I don't like how easy this is.

i'm not even scumreading Yume (Why are people making my reads up for me?) - Small lean based on activity maybe but still nothing worth calling home about. My big issue at the moment is this feels too easy.

[furtiveglance]

Thats what worries me. That open goal is just as open for scum if those two are town, I don't like how easy this is.

i'm not even scumreading Yume (Why are people making my reads up for me?) - Small lean based on activity maybe but still nothing worth calling home about. My big issue at the moment is this feels too easy.

Sometimes it is easy. The first one anyway.

[Nancy Drew 39]

by telling me what shes done here to earn a TR?
When it comes to literally nothing and figuratively nothing, Yume is in the same as meg - literally nothing.

Hard disagree but like I already said and STD explained it. I can’t do anymore to convince you than I already have. Meta but since you’re only interested in experiential meta, there’s really nothing more I can say to convince you.

[Aisa]

I think that getting that feeling of "hold on... every player is ok with this elimination" is a great time to stop and reassess the person you're about to vote out, but if you still think they're scum after reassessing, well, that's that.

Note that I am NOT advocating for a hammer, I am in fact writing a wall partly about the opposite

[Haschel Cedricson]

The list of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of

mastina
Yume

MegAzumarill
the worst

With 12 players in the temple, it takes 7 to eliminate.

MegAzumarill: (7) Gamma Emerald, mastina, furtiveglance, Nancy Drew 39, Yume, Save The Dragons, Cephrir
Yume: (1) Flea The Magician
the worst:
mastina:

Not voting: MegAzumarill, the worst, Ythan, Aisa

An elimination has been reached! Hold tight for flip...

[Haschel Cedricson]

What's this? Despite all of your squabbling, you have managed to assemble the Silver Monkey. My loyal

Temple Guard MegAzumarill

has been bested, and you have managed to collect half of a Pendant of Life.



The path to the King's Storeroom is open, but don't get comfortable! You shall advance no further!

Day Two Begins

[Aisa]

Omg I can't counttttt that was a hammer I was still doing research for my wall rip

[Flea The Magician]

So I'm still interested in that wall Aisa...

[Haschel Cedricson]

There are

no challenges

active today.

[furtiveglance]

I've half a mind to double tap the snakes.

[Aisa]

This is where I got to. I am obviously not going to bother finishing it now lol but enjoy the read, everyone
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General thoughts on the gamestate

I think I understand the votes moving fast here, because both Meg and the worst have not been very active for several days and neither have really towntelled. I operate... slowly and I have an instinctive reaction of aversion to quick votes, but I get that others don't.

I think that if someone out there is considering hammering will still not advocate for anything other than patience here. Meg said they want a chance to leave their thoughts on the game; let's give them at least 24 hours to get their thoughts out. Gamma also wants Ythan to weigh in, which she would also have a chance to do if we waited a day.

Yume

@Yume:

why did you vote for Meg? Can you write a couple sentences about why you think they might be scum?

Spoiler:

VOTE: mastina

Every time I've been paranoid of her, she has been in the opposite faction, and this game I am paranoid of her, so she has to be scum.

She hasn’t even posted yet. On what are you basing this paranoia on?

I’m suspicious of this post unless you have some valid reason for this?

No, it's just a feeling.

That, and she posted in our PT something she posts when we're opposite alignments.

What did she post? You can paraphrase it?

Can I paraphrase an emoji?

You can try to describe it, I guess?

So you’re saying her posting a particular emojis is a scumtell for her?

Only if I am involved, but yes.

Like, I dunno how to explain it in the way those who weren't around in that game would understand.

Well, it's like a sideways heart emoji.

Like this <3?

Yea.

Yume, tell me a bit more about heartemojigate. Do you think there might be scum motivation behind it?

Buddying.

There's not much to say here, except that this progression looks kinda towny. A few of these posts were made quite close together; particularly from "she posted something in our PT" to "it's like a sideways heart emoji". The way she broke up the thought across multiple posts while getting questioned by Nancy makes her suspicion of mastina seem more real. scum!yume would have had to be deliberately vague initially and given the low post count I'm not sure she would expend energy on something this convoluted.

Well. That was a lot of words.

Slight townlean

.

mastina

I had an initial townlean on her because I approved of her initial readslists, but on a reread I am no longer confident. She hasn't done anything overly scummy but I'm not seeing anything scum couldn't fake.

One worry is that some of her pushes, such as the push on Flea, register as possible scum trying to shake the game up.

Null.

MegAzumarill

A hard read given half her ISO is about the heart emoji, and I think her reaction to that whole affair was maybe a bit excessive.

As for her wall...

Spoiler:

First and foremost I don’t really like how TW hasn’t made efforts to engage in our PT. I know I wan’t active but it feels like TW isn’t interested in sorting my alignment because they made no effort for this since I last posted in there.

Rest of my thoughts are as I catch up. I’ll post a few pages at a time as I read.

Post 173: This post makes me feel like Nancy doesn’t really understand the situation or mechanics of the game and I don’t think Scum!nancy stands to gain much from faking this. A part of me thinks Scum!Nancy would get help from partners for understanding the setup.

Post 182: No it did not. I’ll probably drop that weirdness as it feels like genuine confusion which is probably slightly plus town for nancy and I don’t think more can be attributed to it at this point.

Post 187 Seems to be Furtive playing dumb and trying to OMGUS. +Scum

I like 196 from Flea, I feel like it makes sense but it’s mostly mechanical.

Post 202. This feels like Scum!Furtive. Actively sorting only scum reads isn’t critically evaluating the game. That’s trying to get a miselim through. If you are reading and focusing on the game you should be looking for towny and scummy things, you don’t just actively search one or the other. Like there’s not going to be more information on something just because you ignore other things. Doesn’t make sense.

Post 213 is interesting. I think Aisa/Furtive being both scums made some sense with furtive’s weirdness on the slot, but this post really blatantly seems to say why would furtive be weird

specifically with my slot.

The natural answer I feel is saying they are partners but I don’t think scum!Aisa is this blatant about it

252 Drives an interesting point by Cephir that I think leads more into the partnership of Furtive/Aisa. Due to the high density of scum I think these kind of associatives will be many between partners so I’m partial for it. I’m surprised nobody has suggested a furtive/aisa team to this point but I suppose I haven’t had any scummy points with Aisa on her own.

253 Makes me think Flea is town. Good analysis and I’m interested in seeing if they’ve got more reads.

271 +Town for Gamma. Fairly depth read but I don’t feel too strongly about the logic myself.

Will be back later for more,

Note to self: Start next on Page 12.

[Here I was going to explain that her points that stood out to me most were the ones on posts 202 and 253. I don't agree that 253 is a good analysis (duh), in fact it's not much of an "analysis" at all. Can elaborate on this if asked. Post 202 was actually kinda making me tinfoil furtive.]

[Ythan]

Nice!

[Flea The Magician]

I've half a mind to double tap the snakes.

I find it unlikely to be an S/S pair but honestly I can see it being a good plan at this point.

[Flea The Magician]

So this is more of a detailed readslist than something actually substansive and relevant? Kewl you stay on the sus list and as a SL now.

[furtiveglance]

Nice!

Yo you did nothing!

Got any reads?

[Aisa]

What would have been substantive and relevant to you?

[Aisa]

Also I'm off now, talk tomorrow

[Flea The Magician]

Something relevant to the gamestate that isn't a readswall. You were saying something about being against a hammer, there's nothing there about it

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what, it’s Cobra Kai time.

STRIKE HARD
STRIKE FAST
NO MERCY

I challenge the Purple Parrots

[furtiveglance]

I accept your challenge

[furtiveglance]

I think that challenge shows desperation

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you’re delusional.
the worst will fall eventually if he’s scum. Meanwhile, I think Aisa and Ythan need time in the limelight.

[furtiveglance]

I think you’re delusional.
the worst will fall eventually if he’s scum. Meanwhile, I think Aisa and Ythan need time in the limelight.

How can you even compare a Parrot with a...I forgot what you and Ythan are. But seriously, Aisa has been posting good stuff and Ythan has flaked. Regardless of all of that, if you hadn't done that I was probably going to challenge the snakes again and the worst could have gone. This challenge just feels like a distraction attempt

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Aida’s last burst of activity is a scumtell.
I’ll explain once at my computer.

[furtiveglance]

You know what, it’s Cobra Kai time.

STRIKE HARD
STRIKE FAST
NO MERCY

I challenge the Purple Parrots

Hold up. This challenge makes 0 sense if you TR me, which you're claiming to. Motivation was...pressure on Aisa and Ythan? You know I TR Aisa. I can't see town motivation for doing this Gamma, you need to explain sharpish.