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Save The Dragons He/HimProtection unnecessaryHe/Him
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It's possible you are right and I'm wrong I don't know either way there's nothing I have that's making one more likely than the other-
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Save The Dragons He/HimProtection unnecessaryHe/Him
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Flea The Magician Fae/FaerJack of All TradesFae/Faer
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Do I look small cute and fluffy?In post 874, Yume wrote:
Then you should sheep those who have.In post 872, Flea The Magician wrote:
Nope and ngl I'm hoping we don't meet again, you're hell to read.In post 854, Yume wrote:
Well, did you play with me before this game?In post 851, Flea The Magician wrote:or use an ISO link.
I genuinely loathe how short and lacking Yumes posts are and can't understand Nancys faith in her reads at all.
Apparently some peeps need to learn what a push is....
I trusted nancy, and by play you're all but conf at the moment anyway. This is a sidetrack and gets us nowhere.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
Songs I have used in catchupsDo you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!█████████████████████████
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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bruh whatIn post 870, Cephrir wrote:
You figured it out gamma, because I had a bad scumteam in some other game it must be what's happening hereIn post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Wouldn’t be the first time. This is the game I’m referring to with this, for referenceIn post 858, Save The Dragons wrote:you could but that's not what happened cuz you're scum and you're probably malding that the rest of your team is all inactive
that's my hero solve<Embrace The Void>
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Aisa who are your top 3 scumreads?In post 880, Aisa wrote:Hi I am here for an hour, do what you want with me!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Also just generally, I'd appreciate it if someone could make it through 828 and see if you agree with the conclusion. The only response I've had was Cephrir reacting to 1 line with an emoji-
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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Bold of you to think I have threeIn post 883, furtiveglance wrote:
Aisa who are your top 3 scumreads?In post 880, Aisa wrote:Hi I am here for an hour, do what you want with me!
I tr furtive, Nancy, maybe Flea, I guess I'm kinda sus of StD and the worst. There are a lot of people kinda stuck in null land. I know I told you in the PT that Gamma and Ceph were trending upwards in my reads, I can try to see if I remember what made me tr them later I guess.
I can't work out if challenging someone out of the blue like you did is more scum indicative or more town indicative. I think that you should be held accountable for making the challenge and should be able to explain that choiceIn post 884, Gamma Emerald wrote:and like, can you give some thoughts on the current situation?
I guess you already have to some extent but like, would be interested to hear any elaboration-
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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In general, I am a bit confused as to why I'm getting scumread.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's to do with my playstyle, but it seems to be causing me more issues than when I first started playing on here again in 2022, I'm not sure if it's just an unlucky spell or if I need to reconsider some elements of my play or what. For example, Gamma:
this isn't your first encounter with me and I think that writing walls, vomiting out reads and not interacting in real time as much as other players are all features of my playstyle, maybe as either alignment. I don't think you ever thought any of these things were a problem before, so I don't understand why you suddenly think they are a problem now.In post 783, Gamma Emerald wrote:here why I wanted to wait to explain the Aisa read: I had a meme in mind.
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Basically, when a player pops in like Aisa does and just gives commentary/vomits out reads at the expense of real-time interaction, and immediately dips after doing so, I find that comes from scum more often than not.
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Flea The Magician Fae/FaerJack of All TradesFae/Faer
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Why maybe?In post 886, Aisa wrote:I tr furtive, Nancy, maybe Flea, I guess I'm kinda sus of StD and the worst.Wanna see how to use my pronouns? Click here -- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
Songs I have used in catchupsDo you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!█████████████████████████
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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You oscillate a lot in my reads.
I think there are a lot of elements of your play that are quite strong towntells. You interact a lot in real time (yes, I recognise this is a towntell!), you often post in the game above what's required of you to look towny, and I think that some of your posts are more likely to come from a Town mindset.
On the other hand, some of the stuff you post runscompletely counterto the way my brain works. It's hard for me not to see some of your ideas as scum trying to drive through an agenda.
Overall I think you're more likely to be Town. You're not on my hitlist for the moment, but this read is liable to changes in my mood.-
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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I don’t recall it feeling like this in our past games, if I was even aware of it. I posted my logic as a meme because there was a vibe I caught.In post 887, Aisa wrote:In general, I am a bit confused as to why I'm getting scumread.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's to do with my playstyle, but it seems to be causing me more issues than when I first started playing on here again in 2022, I'm not sure if it's just an unlucky spell or if I need to reconsider some elements of my play or what. For example, Gamma:
this isn't your first encounter with me and I think that writing walls, vomiting out reads and not interacting in real time as much as other players are all features of my playstyle, maybe as either alignment. I don't think you ever thought any of these things were a problem before, so I don't understand why you suddenly think they are a problem now.In post 783, Gamma Emerald wrote:here why I wanted to wait to explain the Aisa read: I had a meme in mind.
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Basically, when a player pops in like Aisa does and just gives commentary/vomits out reads at the expense of real-time interaction, and immediately dips after doing so, I find that comes from scum more often than not.
(I would like to hear your answer please)
Also:
welcome to the clubDon't get me wrong, I think it's to do with my playstyle, but it seems to be causing me more issues than when I first started playing on here again in 2022, I'm not sure if it's just an unlucky spell or if I need to reconsider some elements of my play or what.<Embrace The Void>
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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Ok, that seems fair I guess. Admittedly my play has probably also changed a bit since we last played together.
I wasn't sure whether to point it out, and people are allowed to think I'm scummy regardless.In post 826, Save The Dragons wrote:aisa announced a VLA for this time period so i don't really see it as a scummy pop in
But, yeah. I think I am allowed to state that it has been a few busy days irl and that probably changes my usual posting patterns. Deciding if the way it changed is scummy or towny is an exercise left to the reader.-
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Cephrir he/himSurvivorhe/him
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sarcasmIn post 879, Gamma Emerald wrote:
bruh whatIn post 870, Cephrir wrote:
You figured it out gamma, because I had a bad scumteam in some other game it must be what's happening hereIn post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Wouldn’t be the first time. This is the game I’m referring to with this, for referenceIn post 858, Save The Dragons wrote:you could but that's not what happened cuz you're scum and you're probably malding that the rest of your team is all inactive
that's my hero solve"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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i can give it a try later but i don't think we're going to get all that much -- she was probably in antispew mode by the time her big post came inIn post 889, furtiveglance wrote:I think we need to slow down and talk things through, especially with no deadline. I want everyone to discuss Meg's associatives, respond to my next big post and just generally digest before we rush into another vote."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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Save The Dragons He/HimProtection unnecessaryHe/Him
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whyIn post 886, Aisa wrote:I guess I'm kinda sus of StD-
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Aisa she/her, they/themMafia Scumshe/her, they/them
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I decided to go through interactions with Meg for the 3 other vote candidates, doing everyone would take too long for one post but I do want to do it soon.
Formatting note: a bit is unspoilered because I don't know how to spoiler quotes with spoilers in.
Aisa:Spoiler:
In post 760, Aisa wrote:This is where I got to. I am obviously not going to bother finishing it now lol but enjoy the read, everyone
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General thoughts on the gamestate
I think I understand the votes moving fast here, because both Meg and the worst have not been very active for several days and neither have really towntelled. I operate... slowly and I have an instinctive reaction of aversion to quick votes, but I get that others don't.
I think that if someone out there is considering hammering will still not advocate for anything other than patience here. Meg said they want a chance to leave their thoughts on the game; let's give them at least 24 hours to get their thoughts out. Gamma also wants Ythan to weigh in, which she would also have a chance to do if we waited a day.
Yume
@Yume:why did you vote for Meg? Can you write a couple sentences about why you think they might be scum?
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There's not much to say here, except that this progression looks kinda towny. A few of these posts were made quite close together; particularly from "she posted something in our PT" to "it's like a sideways heart emoji". The way she broke up the thought across multiple posts while getting questioned by Nancy makes her suspicion of mastina seem more real. scum!yume would have had to be deliberately vague initially and given the low post count I'm not sure she would expend energy on something this convoluted.
Well. That was a lot of words.Slight townlean.
mastina
I had an initial townlean on her because I approved of her initial readslists, but on a reread I am no longer confident. She hasn't done anything overly scummy but I'm not seeing anything scum couldn't fake.
One worry is that some of her pushes, such as the push on Flea, register as possible scum trying to shake the game up.
Null.
MegAzumarill
A hard read given half her ISO is about the heart emoji, and I think her reaction to that whole affair was maybe a bit excessive.
As for her wall...
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[Here I was going to explain that her points that stood out to me most were the ones on posts 202 and 253. I don't agree that 253 is a good analysis (duh), in fact it's not much of an "analysis" at all. Can elaborate on this if asked.Post 202 was actually kinda making me tinfoil furtive.]I can understand the motivation to post this after the hammer as coming from either alignment. I would too if I'd spent time making a post (like this one). What I'm struggling to understand is the part at the end, in [square brackets]. What's the point of what I bolded in particular? Meg has just flipped Mafia, so why tell the group that their case on me influenced you? Besides, why is it in the past tense? Meg has flipped but I haven't, and yet it sounds like you've now ruled out the possibility of Meg bussing me (from the use of 'actually' and the tone of the line). One scum motivation for this that I can think of is the desire to show thought process. Then again, it's completely possible that you actually had this thought process. But why bring it up?
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