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[Titus]

*deliberately prod dodges*

[Titus]

PP Flavia Andres, your presence is requested....

[Titus]

What is tractor?

[Titus]

PP Flavia Andres, your presence is requested....

Aww, not even my boss say something like this.

Also, I should probably tell you. You are not so nice people and you'll believe I've sold my soul to mafia. But I'm a nice person, you know the drill.

To be clear, this is an explicit miller claim right?

[Titus]

I need that explicitly confirmed or denied. That is why I mentioned those three people. They all hadn't posted.

[Titus]

I need that explicitly confirmed or denied. That is why I mentioned those three people. They all hadn't posted.

Why are you being so pro active right now?

Deliberately ignores question until after Flavia clarifies and/or all players have posted.

[Titus]

I need that explicitly confirmed or denied. That is why I mentioned those three people. They all hadn't posted.

Why are you being so pro active right now?

Deliberately ignores question until after Flavia clarifies and/or all players have posted.

And is there any reason I can't argue that you're being lamist?

You can argue 2 plus 2 equals 6. Can't stop you.

In all seriousness, I'll explain after the conditions are met.

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N.Y. M replaces Nonexistent Hydra.

Who is this?

[Titus]

No. The role doesn't say I'll come as mafia to investigators. It say...well, that people don't like me and believe I'm mafia...well, Delegate. That's all. So, I've assumed most probably I'm miller. Or a small possibility it means I can be hammered with less votes.

Okay. Did you try reaching out for clarification on what your role means?

This needs to happen.

[Titus]

Thank you. Just need Flavia to clarify and then I'll make an announcement.

[Titus]

Ok, since Flavia cleared up as best they're comfortable with, I'll make my announcement. The mod said there was a role that checked opposite of their alignment and that's it. So I'm assuming Flavia is a miller. If Flavia is not a miller, we have a godparent.

[Titus]

Could they possibly be a hated miller?

Yes. My role pm was vague. They could be a scum miller, a miller innocent child or anything else

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2 miller-likes

Two?

[Titus]

Merry Christmas!

We need wagons.

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Now, Titus...so, the last setup, there was no role that had this sort of abilities

There was a role like this last game. (which was town-aligned)
viewtopic.php?p=13589333#p13589333
(Clerk)
To quote one of its powers:
“Information: You know additional information about the setup: At least one role provides a misleading result.”

Mine is similar but about alignment.

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Not reading that but I'm in a stupid good mood so I'll sheep to get wagons going.

VOTE: Herta

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VC please

I am lost.

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I am alive but prod dodging here. No I don't want to talk. No it is not game related. Not in the mental state.

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Reading up Sunday. If you ask, prepare for bitch.

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VOTE: Bell

Good vote IMO, I don't trust him either. Bell + Meuh makes sense.

Both are equally good but I’m thinking of switching because 191 is giving me last game scum!Koka vibes.

VOTE: Meuh

And if Bell is scum here, his team will likely bus. He hates playing scum. I was buddies with him in Pooky v FL and he begged us in the scum pt to let him die.

~Nancy

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Meuh and Kitty are good guesses for now.

VOTE: Meuh

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I feel this is an interesting gamestate. I'm not rock solid on Meuh being scum but I like there's some detractors. I keep coming back to why the hydra was killed.

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I second MariaR claiming based on Frogsterking's information.

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You can see all visits to all members of the hotel? That's quite nice. Did herta know that?

To be specific, herta was aware that MariaR had been guiltied by the hotel as it was posted into the hotel thread at the start of day, but prior to D2 I was the only one who the knew the hotel had this functionality.

Then I suppose the hotel is aware of my role and that I too visited NYM.

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I'm a bit surprised by the fact I was not brought up.

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But the hotel is aware I visited right?

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Why would scum attack a place with a watcher?

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Maria, did you get Feedback last night?

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Then the other person with my role can claim and this can be solved with a single night action.

The other person would logically be a lost mason as well no?

I don't see the point in putting this in the game.

[Titus]

As in, did someone say something back? Yes

Anything else? You're supposedly full claiming and it's like dragging teeth.

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VOTE: MariaR

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Frogsterking did you get any feedback about our friend?

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So it's MT or no one claiming it.

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For MariaR to be town, scum must have a ninja.

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For MariaR to be town, scum must have a ninja.

There's an entire neighborhood with a self watch I do not think this is so out of the question

I think it exists to confirm me tbh.

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Who is in the hood?

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So no one is claiming a second message.

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I might have a work emergency tonight. We'll see

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Well if you wasted a shot, why don't you tell us who it was on?

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Well if you wasted a shot, why don't you tell us who it was on?

I'm the one who shot Herta.

So the scum kill mysteriously vanished?

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I want to get this on record if that's the case.

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Yeah, I don't know where the scum kill went

If Meuh is town and no protective exists, Frogsterking is locktown.

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I don't see why scum kill Herta tbh although it is possible. If scum killed Herta, there's scum in "locktown" players.

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Well not necessarily, could be a paranoia kill and fearing protectives. Scratch that.

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I don't see why scum kill Herta tbh although it is possible. If scum killed Herta, there's scum in "locktown" players.

More likely scum targeted immune or else untargetable 3p

If Herta is town, I think scum targeted me. I think I am an obscure cop in a way but I need to know no protectives first. If there's a protective it's useless.

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I don't see why scum kill Herta tbh although it is possible. If scum killed Herta, there's scum in "locktown" players.

More likely scum targeted immune or else untargetable 3p

If Herta is town, I think scum targeted me. I think I am an obscure cop in a way but I need to know no protectives first. If there's a protective it's useless.

*Meuh is town ebwop

[Titus]

I'll let Mueh answer PP

Titus I highly doubt there are any other protectives aside from meuh, and also doubt one was on you over frog

Unless that had to be on me, I understand.

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I don't believe meuh's claim and I'm suspicious AD is buying it so easily.

I don't see how Meuh's claim is false. Do you really think scum Meuh shot Herta over anyone else? That'd be some leash when he can just claim blocked

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I don't believe meuh's claim and I'm suspicious AD is buying it so easily.

Meuh seems to be claiming 1shot babysitter and 1 shit CPR doc. That's not really suspicious to me

Wouldn't you want a full claim at this point?

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No other abilities?

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I have a third ability but claiming it makes it a lot less useful

I think we're at the point where you need to.

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I don't believe meuh's claim and I'm suspicious AD is buying it so easily.

Meuh seems to be claiming 1shot babysitter and 1 shit CPR doc. That's not really suspicious to me

Weird, I don't think that claim sounds believable at all.

OK but why?

Did you read and MariaR role pms? Did you read my hard claim?

Why are you supposing the operator is a recruit?

Tbh, if there is another operator, they're likely town.

[Titus]

Frogsterking did you self watch last night?

[Titus]

Frogsterking did you self watch last night?

Yes I will out that after meuh finishes hardclaiming all of their abilities they want to lie about.

One of the abilities that visited you was me.

[Titus]

Well you have really failed to make use of your role then if it's what I think it is.

It's not.

[Titus]

I'm town, dude.

Just clarify your role exactly. This stalling helps no one.

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I'm starting to become convinced Meuh is 3p

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Actually maybe I was too quick, other setup did have masons, 2 pseudo cops and a functional watcher that is a fair amount of power

Setups on this site tend to favor a lot of town power.

Still with the power claimed, I'd be shocked if 3p scum didn't have a killing ability.

VOTE: Meuh

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Actually maybe I was too quick, other setup did have masons, 2 pseudo cops and a functional watcher that is a fair amount of power

Setups on this site tend to favor a lot of town power.

Still with the power claimed, I'd be shocked if 3p scum didn't have a killing ability.

VOTE: Meuh

Should Town be more afraid of scum siding 3P or the final groupscum?

See threat kill threat. We don't have enough info to tell.

[Titus]

Tbh, if there is another operator, they're likely town.

Why do you think this btw? From your perspective couldn't there be some synergy in a mafia member and a traitor being able to communicate via radio without necessarily knowing that they're both mafia? Or are you scum trying to protect another operator, believing them to be a traitor?

Umm a traitor already flipped? Why would another one be in the game?

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Tbh, if there is another operator, they're likely town.

Why do you think this btw? From your perspective couldn't there be some synergy in a mafia member and a traitor being able to communicate via radio without necessarily knowing that they're both mafia? Or are you scum trying to protect another operator, believing them to be a traitor?

Umm a traitor already flipped? Why would another one be in the game?

There were two in Community 1

Oh well then I retract my statement. MariaR communicating with traitors makes sense

[Titus]

You misspelled cat...

[Titus]

The Town has decided to made their decision.
Bell, a resident turned aide of the Delegation, was sent to the wilderness.

Bell,

Attaché

, has been ousted to the wilderness.

Spoiler: Attaché

You always knew that there would somebody who needed you.
Deserting your friends and family, you hope that the militants win.
With your flexibility, you can fill in any role left behind, being the indispensable aid that you always wished to be.

Salutations, you are a

Attaché

!

Role Abilities:

• Defector
  : You know of that the
  Delegation
  are … and ….
  
• Deserter
  : You will be endgamed if they are both eliminated.
  
• Substitute
  : You will inherit the role of
  Delegation
  power roles who die, losing this ability in the process.
  
• Recognition
  :
  [REDACTED]

Win Condition:

• You win if at least one
  Delegation
  member remains and all other players are deceased (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Reading this again, I have to doubt two traitors. It doesn't make sense for a traitor to be endgamed if another traitor dies. The wording strongly suggests MariaR had a known partner.

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im allergic to cats its my one weakness

No wonder we butt heads, but I can be a non-allergenic cat. I'm a cartoon so no fur or dander.

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so we r looking gor last group scum

It's preferred but I'll take whatever scum is here.

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VOTE: Meuh

PP is a villager, so is Titus. Frogs leader type posts bother me, but I don't have the desire nor drive to really go into that at the moment so I'm just gonna vote the very obvious and easier to kill wolf to me.

I want Dan to post exactly three more times and then not talk for the rest of the phase unless it's to me about things we find cute.

Rule of 3?

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Where was the N1 visit?

how the fuck would i know i wasnt playing on night one

You can pm the mod but I'm disinclined to believe a loud visitor as well.

[Titus]

I'd like to get some town reads today aside from Frogsterking by y'all decided to go play with pigs.

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I still think its weak sauce to think Meuh is 3p because they technically have claimed 3 active abilities. I love playing the outguessing the mod game but I wouldn't put any equity in this one.

Who do you think is scum?

What do you think of furtiveglance challenge?

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MariaR's role implies the government player could reply. What did they say? Why is that not included in your case?

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I feel that Enchant might be tmi ing but I feel Action Dan is right at the same time.

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What happened to the actual maf kill then?

I think I know but it's a stretch and requires meuh town. So if meuh is town, I would say then.

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What happened to the actual maf kill then?

I think I know but it's a stretch and requires meuh town. So if meuh is town, I would say then.

That's interesting, my theory is just that Meuh carried out the night kill, I'm pretty unsure though.

It requires either a) a doctor/roleblocker not ccing or confirming or b) scum killing precisely me and you being town.

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It's simpler that meuh is just scum but I don't know.

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Ya know regardless of outcome, I think me and Titus need to announce our targets for the night and pick different ones. I very much prefer targeting Enchant and that's who I will tonight

Go ahead and target Enchant. I'm not announcing my target.

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Dan, why is it important you know who I target?

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I'm leaning AD scum, Flavia 3p myself.

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I'm leaning AD scum, Flavia 3p myself.

Why that 3p read?

Why won't you answer why you wanted my target?

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As for the 3p read, it was mech and Flavia being missing. Forgot Flavia is now Pooky.

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I'm leaning AD scum, Flavia 3p myself.

Why that 3p read?

Why won't you answer why you wanted my target?

Dan, why is it important you know who I target?

I don't know your role, but I can guess it's type. And based on that it seems important to know your target in case of your death, but could be wrong. Hope you're playing correctly; more important we don't target same person imo.

Stop trying to predict me or my role.

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As for the 3p read, it was mech and Flavia being missing. Forgot Flavia is now Pooky.

As in, the miller claim seems like it would come from government? What about the loud visiting? Why would government have such negative util

Why is it negative utility? It clears the slot of making a nightkill...arguably on a night with a missing kill tbh

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I don't get the mech part

You don't need to.

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If Meuh is town, Frogster is conftown

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Enchant is receiving some spirits.

Oh and if for some reason I die, you all are mass claiming tomorrow! aka I'm not as trusting of Titus as I once was.

Dude, why are you at the lake so much?

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It's frankly obvious due to Frogsterking's claim that I am not scum (self watch had me and Maria visit NYM night one). I am not a scum role as Frogsterking can attest because he got feedback if he self watched. You're just fishing. The only reason I can see you fishing is you want to know why the scumkill failed.

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Oh yeah I remember now we have some VCA BS from the alcohol giver so Dease is psuedo clear. IDK whatever probably yeah we should kill Meuh to prevent a third party wincon.

If I live, I'm doing it tomorrow but if you're alive, check me on my VCA to be sure I'm not tunneled.

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Oh yeah I remember now we have some VCA BS from the alcohol giver so Dease is psuedo clear. IDK whatever probably yeah we should kill Meuh to prevent a third party wincon.

If I live, I'm doing it tomorrow but if you're alive, check me on my VCA to be sure I'm not tunneled.

What VCA?

Reread the post. It's not done yet.

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Oh yeah I remember now we have some VCA BS from the alcohol giver so Dease is psuedo clear. IDK whatever probably yeah we should kill Meuh to prevent a third party wincon.

If I live, I'm doing it tomorrow but if you're alive, check me on my VCA to be sure I'm not tunneled.

What VCA?

Reread the post. It's not done yet.

Okay I don't know which post. It's something you're writing now?

If the flip lasts long enough. I'm on my way to a life case. Only if the judge is slow can I do it preflip.

[Titus]

Coloring the VCs would help.

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Option 2. Meuh scum Herta scum nk. People considered Option 2, Titus not very concerned that that was a reason for meuh sus imo

I'm pretty sure Titus is Town

why

Day play. She is scumhunting (I think.) I will become more suspicious if the VCA ends up never getting posted.

Tonight or tomorrow barring life emergency.

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Day 1 Count VI

Andresvmb (3) - Frogsterking, Meuh, DeasVail
ActionDan (1) - Morning Tweet
Herta (1) - Titus
Meuh (1) - PenguinPower
Flavia (1) - Bell
Frogsterking (1) - Roden
furtiveglance (1) - Andresvmb
Morning Tweet (1) - furtiveglance
Bell (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- Flavia N.Y. M Herta

Notes

• Replacing Roden due to inactivity.
  
• Prodding Flavia for the second time. Prodding Andresvmb.
  
• RH has decided to add 12 hours to the deadline. This has been reflected in the countdown. It is possible RH will add more time in response to the replacement.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 14 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 22:56:00).

Looking at this vc frog andres town dv town lean furtiveglance lean town

[Titus]

Day 1 Count VI

Andresvmb (3) - Frogsterking, Meuh, DeasVail
ActionDan (1) - Morning Tweet
Herta (1) - Titus
Meuh (1) - PenguinPower
Flavia (1) - Bell
Frogsterking (1) - Roden
furtiveglance (1) - Andresvmb
Morning Tweet (1) - furtiveglance
Bell (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- Flavia N.Y. M Herta

Notes

• Replacing Roden due to inactivity.
  
• Prodding Flavia for the second time. Prodding Andresvmb.
  
• RH has decided to add 12 hours to the deadline. This has been reflected in the countdown. It is possible RH will add more time in response to the replacement.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 14 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 22:56:00).

Action Dan starts the Bell wagon while Maria is top wagon.

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Day 1 Final

Bell (

Hammered

) - ActionDan, N.Y. M, PenguinPower, Meuh, Morning Tweet, Frogsterking, DeasVail, Herta
Herta (1) - Titus
Flavia (1) - Bell
Frogsterking (1) - Roden
furtiveglance (1) - Andresvmb
Morning Tweet (1) - furtiveglance

Not Voting

- Flavia

Notes

• Edit: Flip incoming ~RH
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 14 remaining, it took 8 to form a majority.

The

Night

concludes in (expired on 2023-01-02 16:20:00).

Flavia likely town

Eyeball VCA done. Town can include 3p.

[Titus]

Side note. Not confirmed you targeted nym, only that you targeted in hood.

Pedit: ? Ignoring 3p killing potential. Option 1. Meuh vig scum kill failed. Option 2. Meuh scum Herta scum nk. People considered Option 2, Titus not very concerned that that was a reason for meuh sus imo

Wrong, I did consider it. I waffled and voted meuh prior to the gladiate.

You are spending so much effort to try and claim I am third party. You are trying to fish for my claim. Not happening.

[Titus]

If Frogsterking self watched, he should alibi me. So F off.

[Titus]

Given two nightkills have been stopped, I think it's time for me to out my ability.

Each night I target someone. Anyone who visits that target is told they are registered. If I visit scum, I am immune to all town or 3p actions. If I visit town or 3p, I am immune to all scum actions. I believe scum have tried to kill me twice and failed twice.

N1 I visited NYM
N2 and N3 I visited Frog.

[Titus]

As far as I'm concerned, Pooky is alibied (mostly) from being group scum. Frogsterking is conftown unless another protective comes forth.

[Titus]

So ActionDan or Enchant is scum every time no?

There are many possibilities, of widely varying likelihood.

1. Enchant is scum and I stopped kill.
2. Enchant is town and not enchant scum shot Titus.

Wait. That's only 2.

You decide which is more likely.

Option 3, you're lying scum.

[Titus]

Also she isn't playing from town perspective. Why did she not announce target. What if she died? Etc.

That's a good detail, I think Town!Titus would do that. I wasn't sus of the not-outting targets because I thought she was a hider.

I couldn't die. I was targeting Frogsterking who I knew to be town. Why claim it D2?

I knew you'd have to claim something.

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Well ActionDan being lying scum makes little sense because Enchant wouldn't vouch for a visit

[Titus]

But scum Enchant doesn't vouch for town AD, so that means the failed killer jumped on me

[Titus]

VOTE: PenguinPower

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Also fuck you if you think the mod gives the 3p the same role twice. I played it as it was meant to be played. If town claimed a failed action, then we get a guilty. If scum claimed one, we get a guilty. If scum knew who I was targeting it literally negates the use.

[Titus]

So yes I played it right Frog, even when you suspected I didn't. I told you that you had the wrong idea but I couldn't tell you the precise version.

[Titus]

Oh I am beyond cranky IRL. Two of the meanest lying and in denial people were in court today.