Open 872 | Citadel Conflict | Postgame

[Taly]

Those eyes.

I guess if Drew's town and you're town that would increase the chances of grouping scum.

But if one of you isn't town then that wincon is forfeited.

Are you that confident that Drew and I are town? Willing to take that leap?

I don't know that I am.

Like I said, put anyone you want in the dungeon with me.

When I posed the question, not really.

But I do like both of your replies to it, so the idea isn't off the table and I will pushback any hasty votes on

Dungeon

specifically, now.

[Farren]

That's the problem with Drew jumping in. It's too easy now for mafia to just declare dungeon, and boom it's over.

Could you explain this a little further? I'm not quite getting what you mean here.

Town wins if all three scum are grouped into the same box. With someone (Drew) declaring a box, that leaves two spots in that box of course.

If Drew is Town, scum just needs one scum to declare the same box as Drew and there's no way we can group the scum together and hit the grand slam.

If Drew is scum, scum just needs to avoid placing another one of themselves into that box.

Either way scum has the advantage as far as the grand slam wincon goes. (grouping the 3 mafs in the same box)

My initial interpretation of this was that you were just saying the former (the Town|Drew scenario), without considering the latter possibility (scum|Drew).

[Farren]

I like what I've seen of Taly so far.

[Radical Rat]

rat

reads, analysis, or observations: go

I don't like what Drew did, though I've already said that. Elements seems a little bit jumpy, slight concern there. Meg I think is probably Town, thoughts seem genuine. I think you're probably Town as well. Most everyone else is null.

I think if possible Court's where we should stick the scummiest people and hopefully we get all three, but if we don't then forcing one of the more suspicious slots to be confirmed would be nice.

Things do need to get moving though, so whoever hasn't said where they want to go yet, start saying that.

[Elements]

That's the problem with Drew jumping in. It's too easy now for mafia to just declare dungeon, and boom it's over.

Could you explain this a little further? I'm not quite getting what you mean here.

Town wins if all three scum are grouped into the same box. With someone (Drew) declaring a box, that leaves two spots in that box of course.

If Drew is Town, scum just needs one scum to declare the same box as Drew and there's no way we can group the scum together and hit the grand slam.

If Drew is scum, scum just needs to avoid placing another one of themselves into that box.

Either way scum has the advantage as far as the grand slam wincon goes. (grouping the 3 mafs in the same box)

My initial interpretation of this was that you were just saying the former (the Town|Drew scenario), without considering the latter possibility (scum|Drew).

Which could've been a perspective slip
Just saying

[Elements]

Things do need to get moving though, so whoever hasn't said where they want to go yet, start saying that.

My order preference is:
Palace
Court
Dungeon

[Bellaphant]

I'm not feeling the herta town vibes really

[Elements]

I'm not feeling the herta town vibes really

I agree with you, but why?

[Bellaphant]

It might be a language thing but everything they say feels hedgey? 'i think...' 'if...' 'im not sure...' 'i don't care...'
Just no conviction/progress mindset.

[Bellaphant]

Like I think you, rr and maybe meg are town.

[Bellaphant]

Tbf tho the scum are unlikely to just be in Darren, Dr drew and herta, i.e. the players I know less. So ....

[Nona1510]

been filled.
If all 3 Insurrectionists are in the same location by the end of the day, the Devotees will win.

So, I just saw this and it really doesn’t matter where the three scum are as long as it’s in the same place, so does it really matter which place we choose so long as it’s coordinated?

If we can find those players and assign them to the same place we win. Taly, not disputing what you said but can you explain to me why Mega’s posts are town? Because I don’t understand what she said.

[Nona1510]

Things do need to get moving though, so whoever hasn't said where they want to go yet, start saying that.

My order preference is:
Palace
Court
Dungeon

Okay but that works if Drew is scum but what if he isn’t? Fact is he’s already locked in and because of that I think we need to be flexible.

We need to first I think try to solve Drew and decided after that. It’s possible Drew did what he did as town or could be scum replicating that, we don’t know but if we decide he’s more likely town than wouldn’t that need to change?

[Nona1510]

Oh never mind, it still might because you have palace first. I thought you were basing this off of Drew being scum. If it’s not, then probably forget what I just said.

[Nona1510]

Tbf tho the scum are unlikely to just be in Darren, Dr drew and herta, i.e. the players I know less. So ....

We don’t know where they are. I wish we could win by grouping three townies, I think that would probably be easier.

[Taly]

rat

reads, analysis, or observations: go

I don't like what Drew did, though I've already said that. Elements seems a little bit jumpy, slight concern there. Meg I think is probably Town, thoughts seem genuine. I think you're probably Town as well. Most everyone else is null.

I think if possible Court's where we should stick the scummiest people and hopefully we get all three, but if we don't then forcing one of the more suspicious slots to be confirmed would be nice.

Things do need to get moving though, so whoever hasn't said where they want to go yet, start saying that.

Who would you group with, and where would you like to be?

been filled.
If all 3 Insurrectionists are in the same location by the end of the day, the Devotees will win.

So, I just saw this and it really doesn’t matter where the three scum are as long as it’s in the same place, so does it really matter which place we choose so long as it’s coordinated?

If we can find those players and assign them to the same place we win. Taly, not disputing what you said but can you explain to me why Mega’s posts are town? Because I don’t understand what she said.

I just agree with his perspective on approaching this game more than I did anyone else.

53 prioritized gamesolving, which is inevitably what

does

prevent scum grouping, rather than assigning variables to specific locations that give informed scum a blueprint to coordinating their interactions.

63 and 79 acknowledged the Day 2 scenario, I wrote this pre-emptively in my TL;DR.

TL;DR, it's good to try and group the scumteam, but who catches the scumteam D1 - or it is the consensus among town? It's unrealistic to focus on that ahead of this being a typical mafia game where townies can pick the players

they feel confident in solving

.

I feel like this argument can also come from scum, but considering I nodded a lot in a short period of time, it feels likelier town.

[Taly]

I'll add more context here

I'm not feeling the herta town vibes really

Herta

is the person I am most familiar with on this list, both in playing as the same alignment and different alignment - alongside hydra'ing.

So even if I don't have a concrete read on them, my bias skews toward being able to determine their alignment.

Is there something else I should consider?

[Bellaphant]

No, another, more town sided (maybe) strategy is to pair people who actually think they can read each other. Like, rats has played with me a fair bunch recently, for example

[Bellaphant]

Do you think they are town tho.

[Nona1510]

rat

reads, analysis, or observations: go

I don't like what Drew did, though I've already said that. Elements seems a little bit jumpy, slight concern there. Meg I think is probably Town, thoughts seem genuine. I think you're probably Town as well. Most everyone else is null.

I think if possible Court's where we should stick the scummiest people and hopefully we get all three, but if we don't then forcing one of the more suspicious slots to be confirmed would be nice.

Things do need to get moving though, so whoever hasn't said where they want to go yet, start saying that.

Who would you group with, and where would you like to be?

been filled.
If all 3 Insurrectionists are in the same location by the end of the day, the Devotees will win.

So, I just saw this and it really doesn’t matter where the three scum are as long as it’s in the same place, so does it really matter which place we choose so long as it’s coordinated?

If we can find those players and assign them to the same place we win. Taly, not disputing what you said but can you explain to me why Mega’s posts are town? Because I don’t understand what she said.

I just agree with his perspective on approaching this game more than I did anyone else.

53 prioritized gamesolving, which is inevitably what

does

prevent scum grouping, rather than assigning variables to specific locations that give informed scum a blueprint to coordinating their interactions.

63 and 79 acknowledged the Day 2 scenario, I wrote this pre-emptively in my TL;DR.

TL;DR, it's good to try and group the scumteam, but who catches the scumteam D1 - or it is the consensus among town? It's unrealistic to focus on that ahead of this being a typical mafia game where townies can pick the players

they feel confident in solving

.

I feel like this argument can also come from scum, but considering I nodded a lot in a short period of time, it feels likelier town.

Okay fair, I’m not completely sure how to play this setup and I really wasn’t clear on what stances were protown or not, other than of course consensus is the most optimal.

I think maybe if we try to townblock we can figure out the three scummiest slots who we’re least confident on but of course that’s bearing on their being no deep wolves and I’m not yet extremely confident on anyone but so far not being pinged by RR, you, Meg. I’m tempted to like Elements’ townreading me though.

[Nona1510]

No, another, more town sided (maybe) strategy is to pair people who actually think they can read each other. Like, rats has played with me a fair bunch recently, for example

Also liking Bella. So if all of Rat, Taly, Meg, Bella and I are town, that leaves Elements, Herta, Drew. So unless I’m wrong somewhere. Hmmm . . . that would be right if I’m right but also seems to easy and I’m kind of wary of easy, so I don’t think we should rush into any unalterable decisions yet. But Elements’ townreading me also gave me good vibes.

[MegAzumarill]

Taly is probably town.

Don't really have a preferance for where I go but if I had to pick an order itd probably be (Vote for town one, dungeon, other one)

[Radical Rat]

I said earlier that I'd like Palace. I feel pretty comfortable on Meg being Town so far, so fine with them joining. You (Taly) would be my other main townread so far, but you've expressed a desire for Dungeon with Herta, which works for me assuming Drew is Town. Then Bella's right we have played a lot recently, though I don't think I've ever seen her scumgame.

I would prefer NOT to be paired with Nona, Drew, or Farren. Mainly just since I haven't played with them before,so not confident on readability.

I guess final preference then would be Palace with Meg and Bella?

[MegAzumarill]

Id feel better with Taly than Bella in palace probably

[Taly]

Hmmm, a lot of nice posts to dissect this page.