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[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: RadicalRat

Makes that easy ig

[MegAzumarill]

So it was farren/rat elements then probably
Neat

[Bellaphant]

Wait, what does the swapping mean?

[MegAzumarill]

@Bella realistically me and rat have the exact same goals today so our play isn't going to be AI except for the other groups if possible.
Read yesterday if you want to judge ig or see how we do that but I'm not about to sit here and explain why someone now mod confirmed to me as scum is scum.
Maybe later but for now we can probably resolve outside of here.

[MegAzumarill]

Wait, what does the swapping mean?

It means i'm with you and rat now and elements is with taly/nona.

[MegAzumarill]

Good timing

[MegAzumarill]

Alternatively you qh rat and we all have a good hearty laugh that a scum didnt get to talk today

note: my lawyers says i have to quote that this is only half serious

[Herta]

So two of elements, rad rat, meg are scum.

[Bellaphant]

I meant can we read anything into the swaps.

[Bellaphant]

Like I think you, rr and maybe meg are town.

Ahaha I thought meg and maybe RR were town. Great.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: MegAzumarill

Mechanically confirmed to me, will try to case for Bella's benefit in a moment

[Herta]

I meant can we read anything into the swaps.

I'm trying to think of an alternative but coming up short.

[Radical Rat]

I meant can we read anything into the swaps.

Scum is forced to swap, so not really. If there were two scum in one place, then the swap necessarily includes one scum and one town, but we won't know that for sure until things start flipping.

[Herta]

That makes sense for scum!farren to jump into the Dungeon without a word if there were two scum already in Court.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait, what does the swapping mean?

It means i'm with you and rat now and elements is with taly/nona.

Not surprised Nona and elements were put together, we probably should just accept the L there.

Starting to think the real battle is here in the Dungeon, I feel it is obvFarren, just hope Herta isn't leaning voting me.

Pre Edit: Had a town read on Rat as well, so that is an interesting 1v1 there.

The setup is that we as town just have to control 2/3 locations, correct?

[Herta]

The setup is that we as town just have to control 2/3 locations, correct?

Right.

[Doctor Drew]

And yes Rat, even though I have no vote there, would love to be given the mechanical reason you are town as well.

Also, I was correct in my wincon assumption lol, just had to double check.

Pre Edit: Ya sniped me lol

[Radical Rat]

There's like, some tangible benefit to forcing people to go to particular places then looking at swaps but I don't think I care for the most part.

I might do palace and invoke my inner jester
But not right now

Someone townblock with me or something so we can win Palace.

I don't see the benefit beyond grouping certain players with each other. 2 mutually townreading townies win at all 3. A mutually townread townie and scum lose at all 3.

We can still group players in any formation

Our information is better tomorrow the less we force consensus and unless town as a whole both wants to strictly enforce it and is 3/3 correct then it is the wrong move.

Maybe bella makes the most sense as a third? The read on herta could be distancing to avoid going with him. Feels too early for a final deciscion atp, but...

I wouldn't be opposed with
(Drew/Herta/Bella)
(Taly/Meg/RR)
(Farren/Elements/Nona)

Discuss

Going through the ISO, and in hindsight this is interesting. Meg first expresses that there's benefit to organizing assignments, then says there isn't, then is the one to first propose a complete arrangement. Didn't ping me at the time because I agreed with the arrangement, but the flip-flopping is odd, and scum of course benefits greatly by having their preferred arrangement met.

[Bellaphant]

Oh yeah, I forgot about megs random sr of me

[Doctor Drew]

Hmm, makes me question Herta as town a bit if Meg is actually scum. Why would scumMeg knowingly want three townies in the Dungeon?

[Herta]

Isn't elements lock scum now? Or am I missing something?

[Herta]

I mean why swap town for town?

[Herta]

During Night 1
, the Insurrectionists
must switch the locations of 2 cadets such that each location contains exactly one Insurrectionist
as well as choosing one cadet at the Court
to be confirmed as a Devotee
.

I guess maybe they were permitted to switch town for town for wifom.

[Herta]

I want to hear from farren why he is town or why drew is scum

[Radical Rat]

I mean why swap town for town?

A town for town swap is impossible because Meg is scum and was swapped. It unfortunately doesn't say anything about Elements though, because Elements could still either be Town or Scum.