Open 871 - The Haunted Village | Postgame

[Save The Dragons]

what posturing could i possibly be doing i'm like the least townie person in a sea of townreads

if i'm scum i sweating bullets and probably just dead here due to sheer panic

[Wednesday Addams]

I'll wait for Maki. She'll probably know by now

I should be town by the way I played yesterday.

And I trust her judgement to find last maf.

Please let's not elim anyone until there is more talk from everyone so we can figure this out

SHE PLAYED HORRIBLY. LIKE AWFUL. That was the worst town play I ever saw in my life in any mafia game. knowing she is hard-cleared right now makes me furious.

Your play was also horrible unless

you knew she was playing horribly

so stop being proud of your horrible play if you're town.

You all quick voted without giving Maki or Kaito time to talk again. It could have been sorted which is why I said to wait. Also trust, if you think I'm being elim'd this game, then you'd be elim'd over me.

she was chatting with me as I was explaining why her claim made him 100% scum. She could have clarified right then

kaito's elim is 100% on maki I don't care if she does this everytime

and I could not have envisioned she is actually throwing the game by fake claiming something that would mean another PR claimer is guilty. I can't understand how anyone would see that coming like you did. That was just pure horrible play and there is no other way to describe it.

Yeah have to agree with this. Both Kokichi and Maki pr claims definitely contributed to Kaito mislim because he was mislimed mainly due to math.

This is false. Because I claimed PR AFTER Kaito had already been elim'd

Well Maki’s claim did for sure so Kyoko’s right about that. Maki meant well but her claim was the main reason we limmed Kaito because Kuzo confirmed her and it looked mech impossible for Kaito to have been telling the truth.

[Gimli]

@STD yeah IDK man you're my solve I'm sorry I tunnel you everygame I promise to try and not do that but I'll think you're scum next game as well. like, this isn't a gameday I'm gonna figure out you're a townie when you're going after kyoko and suspecting the bubbaloo claimants and stuff like that. it feels like fake solving and not a town thinking through. I think you're better than this so I think it's you.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I think Shuichi and Kaito both vigged N_M which is actually pretty funny.

N_M is vigbait

I didn't want to bring it up yesterday cause I know it would make you all sus Kaito even more, but yeah kinda funny.

I also saw that which is why I had the theory kaito is telling lies.

and then maki claimed the way she did

and then it was confirmed he is telling lies

...

How did you see this and still thaught maki lied?

Because it's a standard play on other sites to do this. A clear townie roleswaps to protect the PR

Her fake claim made Kaito mechanically confirmed scum

As a cleared player that was the most stupid thing to do since she knew she is not a pr and kaito might be telling the truth.

Is it standard play to mechanically confirm others as guilty with a fake claim?


also kokichis claim did absolutely no harm. it was a gambit to draw night kill from fuyu maybe and was a fine play. what I have issues with is how he "knew" kaito is town and telling the truth. but I have less issues with that now that he is talking and claiming he knew maki's meta.

still I'm really salty about that whole thing

[Wednesday Addams]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

[Save The Dragons]

@STD yeah IDK man you're my solve I'm sorry I tunnel you everygame I promise to try and not do that but I'll think you're scum next game as well. like, this isn't a gameday I'm gonna figure out you're a townie when you're going after kyoko and suspecting the bubbaloo claimants and stuff like that. it feels like fake solving and not a town thinking through. I think you're better than this so I think it's you.

i'm not sure it's kyoko anymore and i never really thought it was the pr claimaints for any part of the day phase once i remembered who they were

[Save The Dragons]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

[furtiveglance]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Yeah, the fact that Fuyu was probably RBed doesn't mean that his shot would have been correct.

[Gimli]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Yeah, the fact that Fuyu was probably RBed doesn't mean that his shot would have been correct.

but that same guy, STD, is saying 'I'm impressed I'm alive because fuyuhiko was suspecting me'

like what is this?

let me grab a quote...

I'm actually a little surprised I wasn't shot last night tbh

is this playing dumb? someone tell me.

[Wednesday Addams]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Do you think it’s more likely Kuzo used vig or tracker last night? Because if vig, than last scum would have to be the roleblocker and If I’m hard claimed town joat Kuzo, I 100% use the vig.

[Save The Dragons]

yes someone mentioned he was probably rb which i forgot was an option

[Gimli]

the last scum is confirmed to be the RBer

pedit: okay.

[Save The Dragons]

last scum is 100% confirmed to be a roleblocker wednesday

[Save The Dragons]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Yeah, the fact that Fuyu was probably RBed doesn't mean that his shot would have been correct.

but that same guy, STD, is saying 'I'm impressed I'm alive because fuyuhiko was suspecting me'

like what is this?

let me grab a quote...

I'm actually a little surprised I wasn't shot last night tbh

is this playing dumb? someone tell me.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=grasping+at+straws

[Wednesday Addams]

i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Do you think it’s more likely Kuzo used vig or tracker last night? Because if vig, than last scum would have to be the roleblocker and If I’m hard claimed town joat Kuzo, I 100% use the vig.

Kuzo knew scum would kill him, so he doesn’t waste a tracker because it’s extremely unlikely he gets to live to give a tracker result, so logic dictates he used a vig and since no one but him died, occam’s razor says he very likely shot correctly.

[Save The Dragons]

i am definitely not following

[Wednesday Addams]

last scum is 100% confirmed to be a roleblocker wednesday

That’s my point. I believe Kuzo correctly used his vig shot and that’s why no one else died.

[PenguinPower]

Kuzo knew scum would kill him, so he doesn’t waste a tracker because it’s extremely unlikely he gets to live to give a tracker result, so logic dictates he used a vig and since no one but him died, occam’s razor says he very likely shot correctly.

occam's razor says he was very likely rb'd.

[PenguinPower]

how does being rb'd equate to shooting correctly?

[Save The Dragons]

why wasn't he just roleblocked

how could he possibly know the correct shot

how could scum possibly know that he shot correctly

do you think scum knew who he shot and decided to RB or not RB based on who he shot

[Wednesday Addams]

i am definitely not following

Kuzo’s a joat. He already used cop on Maki. He self-outed knowing he was almost certain to be the scum nk, so why would he bother using tracker? That makes absolutely no sense. Most likely scenario is that he used vig correctly on scum roleblocker. Any town joat with any sense would anyway.

[Save The Dragons]

how would he know who the scum is

[PenguinPower]

i am definitely not following

Kuzo’s a joat. He already used cop on Maki. He self-outed knowing he was almost certain to be the scum nk, so why would he bother using tracker? That makes absolutely no sense. Most likely scenario is that he used vig correctly on scum roleblocker. Any town joat with any sense would anyway.

using vig does not mean using vig correctly? Most likely scenario is he used vig and was roleblocked.

[Save The Dragons]

rb is an active choice that has to be made, not reflexive.

so Kuzo shoots whoever the fuck he wants

scum decides or not decides to rb kuzo, not knowing who kuzo is shooting

[Wednesday Addams]

how does being rb'd equate to shooting correctly?

Because if he used vig - extremely likely, scum rb stopped the kill. So unless you think Kuzo used tracker, it points to vig and if he used vig, why is no one else dead unless he shot correctly?