Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[redFF]

2 Things

Ari fwiw I want to tr you but I can't find any good reason to and I also can't really find any good reason to wolfread you either so maybe that's just my incompetence. I also don't really know what you're capable of.
I do think that Cakez is literally wrong. A most notable instance of what appeared to be hunting would from your fire vote in RVS. It's not like impossible for that to be faked but that's at least 1 instance of something that has looked like hunting.
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/

there's probably a mafia in the neighborhood

Based off of what?

just makes sense to have 1 mafia in a 3 person neighborhood from a setup perspective, am i wrong in thinking this?

Datisi is a mod who likes to subvert expectations.

ok, ill keep that in mind

[Alisae]

2 Things

Ari fwiw I want to tr you but I can't find any good reason to and I also can't really find any good reason to wolfread you either so maybe that's just my incompetence. I also don't really know what you're capable of.
I do think that Cakez is literally wrong. A most notable instance of what appeared to be hunting would from your fire vote in RVS. It's not like impossible for that to be faked but that's at least 1 instance of something that has looked like hunting.
If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/

there's probably a mafia in the neighborhood

Based off of what?

just makes sense to have 1 mafia in a 3 person neighborhood from a setup perspective, am i wrong in thinking this?

We don't really have much to go off of so it's pretty arbitrary. You could be right, you could also be wrong. In general just way too early to tell. All we know is there is a neighborhood and it has 3 people in it.

[Mistyx]

saving my place at top of page 24

think lycan is town for reasons I’ll think are bad if i explain

can you fill us in here? lycan had made 4 posts when you said this

people were pushing lycan who had 4 posts and ignoring me who had probably less meaningful stuff to say by that point

so therefore i think lycan scum is relatively less likely

[Alisae]

What about the interactions w/ fire is that something he has faked before i don't mind his recent interactions with fire

Ari this is is about Cakez btw that might not be clear

If he's a wolf I genuinely have no idea what the guy is doing? Honestly to me it looks like someone who is struggling :/

I suggest you read the games I linked.

I don't expect a player that is "struggling" in d1 of a large to project that much confidence into the thread.

I would be fine with his play if he was simply taking it slow and getting his bearings but the exaggerated confidence has all the hallmarks of his scum game where he tries to pretend he's 50 feet tall.

I think you can portray confidence while also be struggling.

Can you make the meta more digestible for someone who has literally 0 care in the world to click through all of those games? I buy that you believe this read fwiw.

[Alisae]

Cakez and Fire's recent interaction was like

cakez: help me see the light on ari fire
Fire: No I don't really care to see eye to eye with you but she's done things that I think are townie
Cakez: Bruh like what
Fire: I'll go make a towncase
then he made a towncase and Cakez hasn't really responded to said towncase yet

so like ig said interaction is unfinished but was there anything like that that was able to be faked from cakez's side?

[Alisae]

I could also argue that struggling is like, overconfidence.
I tend to think fools think they know the answers but in reality they're actually clueless.

Idunno if this makes like sense?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm certainly biased, but I think 948 is a pretty good post

[Mistyx]

hi csf

what are you thinking about klick rn

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hey, I think Klick is town

[Mistyx]

okay

do you want to elaborate or do you have any questions for me

[Aristeia]

Cakez and Fire's recent interaction was like

cakez: help me see the light on ari fire
Fire: No I don't really care to see eye to eye with you but she's done things that I think are townie
Cakez: Bruh like what
Fire: I'll go make a towncase
then he made a towncase and Cakez hasn't really responded to said towncase yet

so like ig said interaction is unfinished but was there anything like that that was able to be faked from cakez's side?

ok but why would Cakes!town who is confident that Ari is scum even think Firebringer would be better at reading me than he would?

I can see why scum!him would want to get out of this fight because he didn't get townread by me for shitpushing me like he thought he would.

[Firebringer]

Cakez and Fire's recent interaction was like

cakez: help me see the light on ari fire
Fire: No I don't really care to see eye to eye with you but she's done things that I think are townie
Cakez: Bruh like what
Fire: I'll go make a towncase
then he made a towncase and Cakez hasn't really responded to said towncase yet

so like ig said interaction is unfinished but was there anything like that that was able to be faked from cakez's side?

I think this is unfair interpretation of my interaction with Cakez.
I also don't really think i towncased ari yet, I was just pointing out one thing I am seeing ari do that i think makes her not scum. I thought she was town well before she got pushed.

Also according to her im not even reading her mindset right there. So :shrug:

[Alisae]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

pedit: hmmmmmmmmm

[Alisae]

VOTE: cakez

[Alisae]

fuck the busy work I'll just sheep and see where it goes

[Alisae]

bye

[Firebringer]

This may or may not matter at all.
But I am a notoriously bad Cakez reader.
I don't want to just discredit my own read on cakez but I think he knows i am bad at reading him.
I usually have the wrong read. I read town cakes as scum and the reverse.

Do I think im wrong? No.
But I think for transparency people should be aware of my bad history of reading Cakez.

I can still argue cakez town just like wanted to point it out to Ari for instance when she asked if im good at reading Cakez.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

okay

do you want to elaborate or do you have any questions for me

His reads have been developing naturally. If you want something in particular, I think his read and treatment of me comes from town. I also just played with scum!Klick, and this doesn't feel like it.

people were pushing lycan who had 4 posts and ignoring me who had probably less meaningful stuff to say by that point

so therefore i think lycan scum is relatively less likely

I don't think reads like this are going to be very accurate. For one, I thought your entrance felt a bit carefree whereas I remember you have a pretty stilted scumgame. I didn't get any towny feelings from Lycan's early posts.

Is this basically why you think scum are pushing Lycanfire/Cakez?

[Aristeia]

I could also argue that struggling is like, overconfidence.
I tend to think fools think they know the answers but in reality they're actually clueless.

Idunno if this makes like sense?

I don't really think town cakes is the type of player who fakes confidence but if you have a game where cakes was town and actually confidently pushed someone then I'll be happy to look at it for a comparison.

[Firebringer]

Isn't cakez last completed game like a year ago

[Aristeia]

I've played 2 games with him in the last month so no

[Firebringer]

Cakez coming back to play strong. Love it.

[Firebringer]

Isn't cakez last completed game like a year ago

I was talking about his last town game here. I was in recent dance game

[Aristeia]

His reads have been developing naturally. If you want something in particular, I think his read and treatment of me comes from town. I also just played with scum!Klick, and this doesn't feel like it.

I don't think Klick is that bad of a scum player that he would behave exactly the same way as he did in the last scum game that he just played with us.

I'd really like him to explain why he's townreading Cakez though.

[Aristeia]

for example look at his push on me from WF just a few weeks ago[we were both town]

Spoiler: Cakes pushing me in WF

even though it's wrong in terms of my alignment it at least

makes sense

and has nuanced thoughts about how scum!ari approaches a game and a comparison to a prior game that he saw me play as scum and similarities included.

Here he's just making shit up that's not even factual - it's like a turd sandwich that he thought would look good or something.

Like also if he got my alignment wrong in that game why does he suddenly think he can read me very accurately now?