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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:52 pm

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Was there hail last night?
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:00 pm

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In post 1750, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: Was there hail last night?
In post 1733, MegAzumarill wrote:
It started to hail in the town! Any player using a targeted action will fail tonight!
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:01 pm

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if you kill all arsonists today will the game end? or will we have a chance to plunder someone before it ends?
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:02 pm

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also hail stops arsonists right? so no one was doused so far
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:04 pm

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that being said, since no one is dying by the scum faction tonight (beside maybe by a vig shot) I want to kindly request to no eim today, so we can plunder a town player and win with you all
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:07 pm

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actually, I don't know. I want to have somehow a chance to plunder a town please :sad:
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:22 pm

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In post 1754, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: that being said, since no one is dying by the scum faction tonight (beside maybe by a vig shot) I want to kindly request to no eim today, so we can plunder a town player and win with you all
I was wondering if you would offer that. I'm personally not against it.
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:23 pm

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The only thing is, we don't know if it's 1 or 2 remaining arsonists
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:02 pm

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I think robbing Kitty is play.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:15 pm

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In post 1737, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: I would like to start this day off by saying: what the fuck was that fakeclaim by Drew?
he wanted to act as if there are no more vigs to make town not hail/control vig so they could arson.

which makes me think kitty is also town.
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:16 pm

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In post 1758, Enchant wrote: I think robbing Kitty is play.
But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:18 pm

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In post 1760, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 1758, Enchant wrote: I think robbing Kitty is play.
But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:21 pm

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so I can win with the town when all arsonists die... so far game nights were in hail and we didn't plunder anyone.
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:24 pm

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anyways

if there is only 1 arsonist left in game, there is chance you can end it today without us having a chance to plunder

right?

so since even if there are 2 arsonists left in game, if you no elim today they can't kill anyone tonight I was hoping if you would no elim today to keep game in 5 v 2 v 2 so we would have a chance to plunder the town. if there is only 1 arsonist left you have multiple phases till they have any chance to win and can afford the no elim today too.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:25 pm

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if its 2 arsonists and you miselim today then it will be 4 v 2 v 2 (with 1 doused tomorrow) and things will look worse for town actually so I really think even for town no elim is better play?
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:27 pm

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Okay if you want you can rob me.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:05 pm

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In post 1734, MegAzumarill wrote:
Herta has died. Their role was
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Other roles and actions always treat you as a vanilla role of the groupscum alignment with the smallest amount of members at game start, regardless of your alignment.

You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated, and at least one Town member is alive.
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:06 pm

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In post 1737, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: I would like to start this day off by saying: what the fuck was that fakeclaim by Drew?
got super towny after we killed him lmao
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:08 pm

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it's just aisa isn't it, I don't even see a third arson in this game
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:29 pm

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In post 1760, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 1758, Enchant wrote: I think robbing Kitty is play.
But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice
I promise you I'm town even though I defended the wolves of my POE, you can steal from me 100%

but I'm not sure no killing is a good thing, kyoko. for one thing we can't coordinate with NM cause he is super unreliable, so your parity cop won't solve the game. if you can somehow force NM to target aisa while you target me we could probably do it? but then just flipping aisa is better fmpov
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:37 pm

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In post 1744, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Has anyone here seen Gimli!scum outside of Hidden Temple? I feel like he’s in line with his towngame but I don’t have a good concept of his scumgame I think.
I think it's funny when people clear me because of Hidden Temple? I don't think you guys have any idea what it was replacing into that. wolves had zero motivation to win that game and my slot was condemned from the get go. what else do I do instead of just having fun?

anyway for a better scumgame of mine check this one: viewtopic.php?sid=&f=51&t=90287&user_select%5B%5D=34779 it's the only other game where I was scum recently

I'm still outside my scum range by a mile though
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:41 pm

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I think today we should massclaim and coordinate. pirates should try to visit T and S so they can leave the game and win. so one of (me, kokichi, zuku?) and aisa if we're not just eliminating aisa today.

my preference is getting through with the elimination atm. if it's a three person true groupscum, things can get funky if we no lim today.
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:53 pm

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In post 1769, Gimli wrote:
In post 1760, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 1758, Enchant wrote: I think robbing Kitty is play.
But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice
I promise you I'm town even though I defended the wolves of my POE, you can steal from me 100%

but I'm not sure no killing is a good thing, kyoko. for one thing we can't coordinate with NM cause he is super unreliable, so your parity cop won't solve the game. if you can somehow force NM to target aisa while you target me we could probably do it? but then just flipping aisa is better fmpov
well its a factional skill, so I have a say in what we're targeting and he is cooperative with me. He was going to try and plunder you last night if there was no hail.

the thing is if there is only 1 arsonist left and you elim it today, we loose.

also if you miselim and there are 2 arsonists left then you'll be at 4 2 2 tomorrow. which is a bad situation for town.

Also logically the easiest way we can win is if we plunder town (have a night phase) and have all arsonists dead. then when game ends with only pirates and town, we leave the game and both us and town wins the game.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:57 pm

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the easiest way you can win is by plundering both factions, no? plundering all town doesn't guarantee it
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:58 pm

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let me rephrase

the main group scum are arsonists and no one is doused so far cause of hail. That means town will definitely have another day phase if you don't elim today. number is 5 2 2 if there were 3 arsonists originally so why not give it a night phase to actions to go through. Maybe you learn something that helps you find arsonists instead of risking to loose majority today.

also at same time we pirates need 1 night to be able to plunder town to be able to end game with town cause of two back-to-back hails. This means if there is only 1 arsonist left (if they started with only 2 arsonists) and you get to them today, we'll loose and only town wins.

this is why I think we all need to go for no elim today but as you see its kinda more important for us pirates than you town, so I'll be sad if you guys don't agree but can't be mad at you for it

pedit: we have no one plundered yet cause 2 hails. We need to plunder 1 town at the very least to be able to end game with town

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