Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[MegAzumarill]

VC 3.0.2

No Elimination (3) Gimli, Kokichi Oma, Marashu [E-2]

Not Voting (9) Not_Mafia, Enchant, KittyTacky, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu, Kyoko Kirigiri, Aisa

With 9 votes in play it takes 5 to eliminate.
Deadline (expired on 2023-02-22 23:25:31)

Note: If, hypothetically, there was a note, it may, or may not be, but most likely is, and is unlikely to not be, here.

[Kokichi Oma]

Doesn't work the way I was hoping. Unfortunate.

VOTE: No Elim

If somehow this gets rushed through overnight, ideal world I'd like Aisa to claim target first, then that target claim any results.

Good plan

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Summary of mechanical information so far:

Claims:

TemporalLich
Pick: Meta-Neighbour
Discard: Extension

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

Aisa
Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

Flips:

TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)

Wow, I catch a scum and I'm still chopped liver

maybe if you claimed a role that was possible to be in the game you would get more recognition?

[Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu]

Is there a reason we aren't going for massclaim today?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

So scum both scum factions have 0 way to kill every night? Does this even sound right?

1 - hail is practically OP that role must be nerfed. town is lucky to have it
2 - arsonists are the worst type of group scum. again luck with town scum are that type
3 - pirates are not scum. for the twentieth time, pirates can only win by leaving game early or town siding in end game. They are even more town sided than a natural survivor as they have to find at least one scum and vanalize them and can't win in end game with scum victory (had to leave game before scum wins)
4 - This game is by no means balanced as everything about roles and alignments are random so there is nothing worthwhile to spec here.

It took me forever to figure out how you were forced to townside but I get it now. Town wins when all anti-towns are dead but true groupscum only has to outnumber town. So Pirates can win by only town being alive but not by groupscum endgaming.

Yeappp! Finally someone else see it

[KittyTacky]

I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.

I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.

they don't know what they can't post?

Yup. That’s why I thought it might be more sporting to claim on Day 1.

Sporting? Making yourself a target to be more sporting to scum?

That's like outing your hand in poker to be more sporting to your opponent.

[KittyTacky]

Summary of mechanical information so far:

Claims:

TemporalLich
Pick: Meta-Neighbour
Discard: Extension

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

Aisa
Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

Flips:

TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)

I discarded even-night PGO.

[Marashu]

I'm no longer convinced my idea is the best course of action. 2 trains of thought right now.
1) no planning going into the night. Aisa claims target first at the start of D4, then target claims results, if any. Pro: if Aisa is town, there's a chance of catching arso by them visiting the same target. Con: If Aisa is scum, there's a chance Aisa can claim to target someone nobody else did while actually dousing, which is risky for scum!Aisa but if there's no cc then we're back to where we started I guess. Also if town!Aisa and the shot's a miss, that leaves Aisa as a likely mislim. This plan
2) Aisa targets the same person who would be targeted by FN. Pro: if Aisa is lone remaining arso, it prevents Aisa from dousing or reveals that Aisa did not use Security Guard on planned target. Con: if town!Aisa it means we're not using our investigative to hunt for scum.

@Pirates, I've been assuming all game that groupscum are not multitasking. Can you confirm whether or not that's true?

[Marashu]

(or if you don't care for "groupscum", teams with a factional ability)

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

@Pirates, I've been assuming all game that groupscum are not multitasking. Can you confirm whether or not that's true?

you mean as we cant use our role and factional skill at same time or can we?

I need to ask mod for clarification since we've been in hail so far and I'm not sure

but I was under assumption that we can use both factional and personal skills at same time

[Not_Mafia]

We are multitasking though we don't have the modifier so I assume all groupscum will be

[Marashu]

Ok, then yeah, I don't think we should be telling Aisa where to target.

[Gamma Emerald]

True

Summary of mechanical information so far:

Claims:

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

Aisa
Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

Not_Mafia
Discard: Neighbor

Flips:

TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)

[/quote]
Why are there only links for some roles?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

soooo

are you guys ready to end day?

[Kokichi Oma]

Yep, I'm ready. Aisa Security someone. Pirates did you say who you are visiting?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Yep, I'm ready. Aisa Security someone. Pirates did you say who you are visiting?

I personally want to visit someone in gimli marushu

we intend to plunder a town as stated before

gotta see what nm thinks and we'll target the safest top town read we have

[KittyTacky]

I'm ready.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

alrighty good luck everyone

VOTE: No Elimination

[Enchant]

I really hope we don't have something i think we have.

[Gimli]

I really hope we don't have something i think we have.

what do you think we have?

[Kokichi Oma]

Just to be clear. There cant be more than 2 scum right? like we cant have 2 / 2 / 1 ?

[Marashu]

Just to be clear. There cant be more than 2 scum right? like we cant have 2 / 2 / 1 ?

1. The moderator rolls 1d4. This corresponds to one of the 4 faction lists below.
2. The moderator rolls a random number from 1 to the number of entries in the corresponding list to determine what is present in the game.
3. The moderator rolls an additional number on the True Groupscum list.

Large versions of this game have a guaranteed 2 anti-town factions and a guaranteed 1 benign faction. Mini versions only have one guaranteed anti-town and one "Any" slot that can be anti-town or benign.

[Enchant]

Just to be clear. There cant be more than 2 scum right? like we cant have 2 / 2 / 1 ?

We don't know.

[Enchant]

Ah you meant teams.

No only two antitowns.

[Aisa]

I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.

I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.

they don't know what they can't post?

Yup. That’s why I thought it might be more sporting to claim on Day 1.

Sporting? Making yourself a target to be more sporting to scum?

That's like outing your hand in poker to be more sporting to your opponent.

I mean I think it would be pretty anti-town to not claim this role. I'm not sure this really makes sense.