Mini Normal 2291: Greentexts | Mafia Wins!

[Elements]

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[biancospino]

I'm not loving 129.

Too much certainty for my tastes. Could be play style tho.

Are you disagreeing with the merit of the matter or just the form?

And I am not certain of anything, but I see no reason to muddle my words if I see something fishy

[Crescent]

I just ISOed Kow's first 25 or so posts in the game FK brought up and I have an opinion here but I want to see how he answers FK before I say any more.

BBT replaced town during day 2 in 2273 and played it like he did in that game you referenced and it got him voted off the same day. He voted for like half the game at some point.

I'd stop short of saying I town read him (Your summation of "I guess I'm leaning town right now" essentially echoes my thoughts), but the way he's played so far reminds me of the game I referenced earlier (I don't remember the number, this was around the time COVID hit me) more than it resembles the game you linked to.

[Crescent]

I'm not loving 129.

Too much certainty for my tastes. Could be play style tho.

I feel like if anyone was acting "too certain", it was Clone in #124. #129 looks more like it's a breakdown of questions and observations. Why do you feel bianco seemed "too certain"?

[Cephrir]

I'm not loving 129.

Too much certainty for my tastes. Could be play style tho.

Are you disagreeing with the merit of the matter or just the form?

And I am not certain of anything, but I see no reason to muddle my words if I see something fishy

I'm not sure thinking D1 lims are random is +scum, but mostly the form.

[Cephrir]

I'm not loving 129.

Too much certainty for my tastes. Could be play style tho.

I feel like if anyone was acting "too certain", it was Clone in #124. #129 looks more like it's a breakdown of questions and observations. Why do you feel bianco seemed "too certain"?

Feel like the attacks for excessive concern about a vote came on a little strong ("this doesn't stand") altho after sleeping on it I don't care about this as much as I did last night

[T3]

VC 1.4
Clone (2): BlueBloodedToffee, redFF
Cephrir (1): Kowahbunga
biancospino (1): geraintm
Elements (1): Cephrir
Kowahbunga (1): biancospino
Crescent (1): Elements
JacksonVirgo (1): Frogsterking
Not voting (5): nepenthe, JacksonVirgo, Herta, Crescent, Clone
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-02-26 21:03:00)

[geraintm]

Crescent seems like scum that is trying to take advantage of a vote that had a shitty scum-like post to it, as they don't believe i'll have anything valid to say.

I believe Crescent should have voted me by now, the excessive analyzation and a delay to vote comes off as Mafia. Their posts tend to indicate that they know I'm not actually Mafia (as they are Mafia)

VOTE: clone

[redFF]

More on clone

[Crescent]

Red, what is your reason for voting Clone?

Gera's vote town vibes me. There's a contradiction I noticed in Clone's behavior that I believe Gera is pointing out.

I don't want to elaborate further without a reason from Red first though.

[redFF]

I believe redFF is most likely town. He's staying down-low but tends to be actively curious and is asking

this description of my play pinged me hard. i haven't been doing jack shit. i have not been "actively curious and is asking"

[Cephrir]

Red, what is your reason for voting Clone?

Gera's vote town vibes me. There's a contradiction I noticed in Clone's behavior that I believe Gera is pointing out.

I don't want to elaborate further without a reason from Red first though.

i'm not reading gera as town right now so i'm annoyed by this post for townreading him based on an assumption of what he meant to say but actually didn't

also kinda wild that you asked only red about the reason for his vote when you could have also asked gera and had whatever thought process you're having confirmed or denied. you know what happens when you assume

[Cephrir]

I believe redFF is most likely town. He's staying down-low but tends to be actively curious and is asking

this description of my play pinged me hard. i haven't been doing jack shit. i have not been "actively curious and is asking"

good point

[Crescent]

I believe redFF is most likely town. He's staying down-low but tends to be actively curious and is asking

this description of my play pinged me hard. i haven't been doing jack shit. i have not been "actively curious and is asking"

Oh ok that's fair I missed that little tidbit. Both times I've been asked to comment on you I've had nothing to say because you've done nothing of note. To describe you that way is nonsensical at best.

The reason Gera's vote townpings me is simple: It cuts to a specific spot and calls out the heart of the contradiction I had already noticed. I say I scumlean Clone, and I get into a tiff with Cephir because I mistakenly think he's jumping to Clone's defense. This gets cleared up and the simple matter remains that I scumlean Clone, and I want to see him post more. Clone's response is to call it "excessive" and say I should be voting him, and he immediately calls both BBT and myself scum with far more certainly I ever called him scum.

...So why isn't he voting for either of us, who he supposedly strongly scum reads, when his primary argument on me seems to hinge from the fact that I never voted him based on a simple scumlean?

[Crescent]

Red, what is your reason for voting Clone?

Gera's vote town vibes me. There's a contradiction I noticed in Clone's behavior that I believe Gera is pointing out.

I don't want to elaborate further without a reason from Red first though.

i'm not reading gera as town right now so i'm annoyed by this post for townreading him based on an assumption of what he meant to say but actually didn't

also kinda wild that you asked only red about the reason for his vote when you could have also asked gera and had whatever thought process you're having confirmed or denied. you know what happens when you assume

It's the specific part of where Gera voted based on that I like. He voted Clone based on his words contradicting his actions.

[Cephrir]

Red, what is your reason for voting Clone?

Gera's vote town vibes me. There's a contradiction I noticed in Clone's behavior that I believe Gera is pointing out.

I don't want to elaborate further without a reason from Red first though.

i'm not reading gera as town right now so i'm annoyed by this post for townreading him based on an assumption of what he meant to say but actually didn't

also kinda wild that you asked only red about the reason for his vote when you could have also asked gera and had whatever thought process you're having confirmed or denied. you know what happens when you assume

It's the specific part of where Gera voted based on that I like. He voted Clone based on his words contradicting his actions.

How do you know?

[Crescent]

Red, what is your reason for voting Clone?

Gera's vote town vibes me. There's a contradiction I noticed in Clone's behavior that I believe Gera is pointing out.

I don't want to elaborate further without a reason from Red first though.

i'm not reading gera as town right now so i'm annoyed by this post for townreading him based on an assumption of what he meant to say but actually didn't

also kinda wild that you asked only red about the reason for his vote when you could have also asked gera and had whatever thought process you're having confirmed or denied. you know what happens when you assume

It's the specific part of where Gera voted based on that I like. He voted Clone based on his words contradicting his actions.

How do you know?

Because I've played with Gera enough (this guy has been in almost every game I've played on the site), and he isn't great at explaining his votes regardless of his alignment. It's +town EV for him that he pointed out that specific part when he voted instead of reposting the entire thing. By his standards, that's showing genuine thought behind placing a vote.

[Crescent]

By the way isn't it past time to kick out the couple of people who never showed up and get some fresh blood in here?

[T3]

nepenthe has failed to pick up his role PM and will be replaced.

[Kowahbunga]

ooh I have some catching up to do. I'm in my slower part of work so I'll start making my way through what I've missed.

[Kowahbunga]

Can you recognize a remote possibility that I find it protown to suggest that a possibly town aligned player not get too invested in something I don't think is alignment indicative

No, sorry, I can't. It's never protown to ignore something or look into something less.

This is a game of information at it's very core. Scum start with more information, town's goal is to surpass the amount of information scum have. It should be up to the individual town person to decide when information is no longer useful. It will forever be scummy to me if anyone says "don't read too much into that".

[Kowahbunga]

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Kowahbunga

I meant to ask you a question earlier though I probably forgot. I was wondering if you think it's fair for me to draw analogies between your Andante read in the Mini Normal you just completed and your Cephrir read in this one?

While I can't stop you from comparing games, I personally don't. I think there's a way to put me in the same situation for the posts and reads I made from one game to the next. My reactions in this game will inherently be different than my reactions in a previous game because they're two completely different games. I will see different things from game to game and respond in different ways. I don't expect to ever play two games the same and I go into each game imagining the same of everyone else. I will never use a previous game of someone's to make a decision in this game about them. I can understand why people rely on it more in D1 and it's a common topic. I just think it's poor logic though.

[Kowahbunga]

I'm not loving 129.

Too much certainty for my tastes. Could be play style tho.

This tiny post actually pushes me more to town!Cephir because I like the mindset and it's also something I look for.

[Kowahbunga]

Herta, you going to do anything with your town clear, or just happy to have narrowed the possible scum down a bit?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Kowah can be town, first town read. Go me.