Micro 1069: Korina Runs Another GIM [Finale]

[furtiveglance]

Do you think I could be a Mafia 1-shot Global Roleblocker?

[biancospino]

@furtive, gun to head, if you could choose to execute either Looker or Drew right now, who would you pick?

[furtiveglance]

@furtive, gun to head, if you could choose to execute either Looker or Drew right now, who would you pick?

Drew for lying.

That said, we do have more than one day left

[TemporalLich]

Do you think I could be a Mafia 1-shot Global Roleblocker?

there exists an Alien Global Roleblocker (no 1-shot modifier) and a mod discretion 1-shot global roleblocker in the GIM thread... so yeah you could be scum indeed.

[biancospino]

@furt, would you be down in executing them both today?

@Looker,

Intent

. Yes, I can do that. Claim.

[furtiveglance]

But if I was, do you see that it would be suboptimal to announce it and use it?

[furtiveglance]

@furt, would you be down in executing them both today?

@Looker,

Intent

. Yes, I can do that. Claim.

How can we do both today?

[biancospino]

Do we want an extra day phase? I can provide one kinda, in an unrelated way

I meant this, thou I don't want to disclose the exact nature of the manner in which I can do this

[furtiveglance]

Sounds fun

[TemporalLich]

I don't like the Looker wagon and I'm not willing to vote there. 370 is a good scum case as well... so yeah I do in fact townread Looker.

[MegAzumarill]

I strongly disagree that cult isn't a threat to scum, from their perspective a cult leader might as well be a masonizer, but regardless of that...

It is true that we lose a lot of utility from the weak mod by having it claimed. Assuming everything is true, we don't have a good way of knowing whether Drew was killed by scum or by weakness, so it isn't great for checking alignment. However, unless Drew is presently aligned with furtive, we don't really lose anything by giving it a try. If Drew's action goes through, cult or Town, it disproves furtive's claim. And if it doesn't go through, we're in the same situation as now except furtive's role is confirmed and we'll have a flip from a different elimination to reference against.

I guess this works for keeping him alive at least until day 2, but I don't think it's a lot of benefit as any feedback giving role does the same and nobody is really doubting Furtive's claim anyway.

You are wrong though because worse case scenario we flip a townie instead or mafia has something like a strongman/ascetic and we are just in a worse situation. Who would you suggest as scum if not Drew?

[TemporalLich]

If not Drew I'd suggest that Aeronaut is scum.

Anyway, why would Looker be a viable wagon? I don't see anything overtly scummy in Looker's ISO but I do see that the wagon on Looker is scummy.

[MegAzumarill]

I'm mostly against the Looker wagon. I don't think it's natural and the defence of Drew for no actual play reasons seems scum motivated. Could be partners.

But noone seems to be against the wagon because drew is towny or has acted like town. That tells me I'm onto something here.

[furtiveglance]

I'm currently voting for Drew, who else is?

[biancospino]

I don't like the Looker wagon and I'm not willing to vote there. 370 is a good scum case as well... so yeah I do in fact townread Looker.

Eh, I don't find it convincing frankly. In fact I think that even looking at the reaction to Gamma's

'''lie'''

is basically grasping at straws; it seems a sensible thing to suggest to support a scumread, but given what she lied about then it's pretty meh.

But don't worry, I don't actually need you to vote there. I repeat myself, I have the ability to make that elimination go through, right now, and I have intent. I want Looker to claim

[furtiveglance]

Fun Day Vig time

[Radical Rat]

Well, we don't know if any other feedback roles exist yet, so I figured we work with what we have.

I didn't consider scum having strongman/ascetic, though I don't think that necessarily changes things? If they do, furtive blocking is probably worse for Town, but we probably won't be able to know that until it happens. And while Drew could absolutely be cult, I do think the way the claim happened and the specific way he lied around it look genuine. In particular, the weak aspect is something I wouldn't expect to be fake, since it's painting a giant target on them for nightkills, and if it goes too long without triggering will start looking suspicious as well.

As far as alternatives, I'd probably be happy with either Looker or Nono. MAYBE Lich, because Gamma was being strange, but I do like Lich's posting since replacement.

[MegAzumarill]

Bianco being able to cause 2 lims actually might be able to do something mechanical here

Bianco can you confirm if your role can cause 2 deaths this day phase?

[biancospino]

Yes. It is possible that there be 2 deaths if I use an ability I possess today.

[MegAzumarill]

Ok since the setup is guarenteed to not end before day 2, we now know there are at least 3 scum. (Because if your ability caused both to end that would be incorrect) 7v1v1, 7v2 and 8v1 are not possible

If there are at least 3 scum, then by that same logic, 2 deaths today into a townie night kill would be 3v3 mafia win. 6v3 is not possible and same for 4v5.

So we know it is multiball. This means we don't have pirates and we have an IC* somewhere.

6v2v1 or 5v2v2 - This looks like our most likely alignment distribution.

[MegAzumarill]

5v3v1 fails due to 1 dying to lim + 2 kills on town.

[MegAzumarill]

5v2v1v1 Works

[Radical Rat]

If we're gonna be dayvigging someone, I'd like it to be Looker.

[MegAzumarill]

Why?

[furtiveglance]

I'd be fine with that, but I'd advise caution if you're a Desperado or something similar