How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
aisa is suspecting enchant so I picked some of his posts to just point at them and say they're towny and say why they're towny. it's in spoilers cause it's long and it could also be really boring to read up
Spoiler: enchant being a towny
In post 145, Enchant wrote:
If we ask 3p to out peacefully under promise we not touch them, will they do so
At night, you may select a player to restrict for the following day phase. You may restrict one of: word count maximum (your choice, minimum 25 words), post count maximum per 24 hours (minimum 1), or provide a list of 10 words (of at least 4 letters each) to censor. Players who violate this restriction are daykilled by you. If a player posts a pagetop (a post # that is evenly divisible by 25), they may ignore these restrictions.
The target will be informed of their restriction. You may not target the same player with this two nights in a row.
being the first to talk about discards, being the first to share his own discard. too upfront about it and >rand towny thing
protown thing, probably one of the first ones to support hail
In post 618, Enchant wrote:
Basically it's Vigilante which works only when they should fail.
Example: They shot Bullet. If this bullet is blocked by something and target not die from it (for example HEALED), then target unavoidable oblitirated by laser beam. If this bullet hits (and target would die if this vig bullet was real), then it doesh't work.
I dunno how to explain simpler.
sound mech
In post 731, Enchant wrote:
Wait actually. We have Kitty chained i guess.
aisa's other suspicion was kokichi and I don't really think so, so I'd need to be convinced real bad that this is a scum game. it's also very possible that kokichi's interactions with drew don't exist if they're scum together but this is just an impression from memory and I have yet to read up on these.
I'm doing a re-read on kokichi and I'm not so sure now cause his earlier posting is actually quite ??????? and IDK if ??????? is mafia or what it is. I think some of this would be alright for kokichi to respond but he doesn't have to as I'm mostly just rambling and not going anywhere with it.
Spoiler: some kokichi's d1 stuff I'm quoting and saying things about
In post 14, Marashu wrote:
Besides memes, why would the meta janitor leave out N_M?
I noticed that as well. Could just be mind games? If anything I doubt N_M would be janitor and choose themself not to redact.
I think it's weird that kokichi noticed that shit before Marashu pointed at it, but I'm incredibly lazy so maybe kokichi isn't lazy and actually reads setup posts and things like that right from the start of the game (spoilers: we'll see he doesn't).
In post 39, Aisa wrote:
Right… which is why if anything I feel like not redacting themselves is exactly in their wheelhouse, don’t you think?
I guess, but I feel like N_M is the type to either redact all, half or none. Not just themself. But, I haven't played with them in like 4 years so who knows.
that's such a weird assessment on what NM would or wouldn't do with a meta janitor role... I wonder why kokichi thinks this.
the way aisa posts about it is also a little suspicious because scum tried to frame NM with the thing? so, idk.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
I'm always going to take issue with this post because assuming the miller claim was RVS feel really strange to me and almost like not a real thought to have.
In post 62, Kokichi Oma wrote:I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
why would you want to claim miller instantly if you're actually a Town Miller?
that just seems scummy posturing during RVS which is trying too hard
I dunno, if I was miller I would just say so right away. I can only go based on what I would do in the same situation.
if you were miller you'd just say so right away, then how did you think the miller claim was RVS banter? if it's something you'd do as miller, why wouldn't you take it at face value instead?
Way too defensive and reactionary. Also seems like they only suspect people who vote them.
kokichi, is 'suspecting people who vote for x' something that x does more as mafia than as town? I wonder if you think this is true, if this is a real scumhunting idea you have, and not just posturing for the sake on it once you're going to vote for someone.
Spoiler: some random quotes from kokichi and some from drew before I investigate the d1 KT counterwagon to lich. very boring please only read if you like reading my things
I should really read game setups before I join them
This feels annoyed; am I wrong?
Yes, cause I never read setups before I join and this seems like a confusing one.
almost feels like I'm picking on kokichi for these things but it's weird? that he doesn't read the setup before joining, or after a good chunk of d1 is already up, but spotted the NM meta janitor thing independently from marashu at the beginning of d1. weird doesn't = scummy so idk what to do with this.
Did I not do the same thing with Marashu? Why are you only focused on Kirigiri? I think you just thought we were the same person then realized we weren't and are faking a read.
I'll take kokichi's annoyance with TL's focus on him to be NAI cause it could be really annoying, but I'll note that kokichi does a lot of pushing TL for things that I personally don't think are ever scummy or are like grossly uncharitable like this post.
In post 90, KittyTacky wrote:
Who tf posts a reads list 4 pages in. What is even there to make enough reads on for a full list?
It was this, getting that upset over posting initial reads(whether you agree with the reads or not), jumped out at me.
Not much here tbh, could have been trying to jumpstart a miselim, but not much else evidence to really support that.
Did find it interesting that Gimli gave them shit for saying they aren't familiar with the player list. There was a slight back and forth that seemed a bit forced. But that might be better to revisit at a later time.
I think this has the potential of being a svs pairing between drew and KT with a distancing post that is like, noticing something scummy KT did but then backtracking it to oblivion and never pushing it again (spoilers: will vote him at the end of d1 so this read is probably wrong)
In post 561, Doctor Drew wrote:
Agreed that Gimli and KT are almost guaranteed to not be same alignment.
Hey, maybe first instincts were correct.
VOTE: KT
End of D1 when under fire is quite the time for TL to come alive and making some sense at least
so I think this KT vote is important cause it might clear KT depending on how things looked like. I find the 'gimli and KT are not the same alignment' terribly chainsawn-y as when KT flips town I look bad or something? so it's also probably townpoints for KT.
In post 560, TemporalLich wrote:
considering that KT actually gives a little bit of info (namely, KT and Gimli are highly unlikely to be co-aligned groupscum ignoring Gimli being obvtown), KT is a more economical vote.
VOTE: KittyTacky
I have around equal preference for a KT or Yume elim.
In post 561, Doctor Drew wrote:
Agreed that Gimli and KT are almost guaranteed to not be same alignment.
Hey, maybe first instincts were correct.
VOTE: KT
End of D1 when under fire is quite the time for TL to come alive and making some sense at least
In post 567, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Took days for TL to get to E-2 but Kitty gets there almost immediately. I'm going to iso Kitty.
I like kokichi's instincts here, I think they're well settled. drew was scum so there was scum on this wagon.
the important question here is if this drew vote could be distancing or if this vote could look good on KT instead. I'm not really sure but I think the 'kt and gimli are not aligned' phrasing from drew makes me feel like this is opportunistic scum trying to put two townies in opposite alignments to chainsaw. so idk I think this is >rand town for KT.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
In post 1911, KittyTacky wrote:
You should have probably claimed it so I wouldn't holster.
Did you get anythin at nite? Or no
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 1905, Gimli wrote:
I'm doing a re-read on kokichi and I'm not so sure now cause his earlier posting is actually quite ??????? and IDK if ??????? is mafia or what it is. I think some of this would be alright for kokichi to respond but he doesn't have to as I'm mostly just rambling and not going anywhere with it.
Spoiler: some kokichi's d1 stuff I'm quoting and saying things about
In post 14, Marashu wrote:
Besides memes, why would the meta janitor leave out N_M?
I noticed that as well. Could just be mind games? If anything I doubt N_M would be janitor and choose themself not to redact.
I think it's weird that kokichi noticed that shit before Marashu pointed at it, but I'm incredibly lazy so maybe kokichi isn't lazy and actually reads setup posts and things like that right from the start of the game (spoilers: we'll see he doesn't).
In post 39, Aisa wrote:
Right… which is why if anything I feel like not redacting themselves is exactly in their wheelhouse, don’t you think?
I guess, but I feel like N_M is the type to either redact all, half or none. Not just themself. But, I haven't played with them in like 4 years so who knows.
that's such a weird assessment on what NM would or wouldn't do with a meta janitor role... I wonder why kokichi thinks this.
the way aisa posts about it is also a little suspicious because scum tried to frame NM with the thing? so, idk.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
I'm always going to take issue with this post because assuming the miller claim was RVS feel really strange to me and almost like not a real thought to have.
In post 62, Kokichi Oma wrote:I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
why would you want to claim miller instantly if you're actually a Town Miller?
that just seems scummy posturing during RVS which is trying too hard
I dunno, if I was miller I would just say so right away. I can only go based on what I would do in the same situation.
if you were miller you'd just say so right away, then how did you think the miller claim was RVS banter? if it's something you'd do as miller, why wouldn't you take it at face value instead?
Way too defensive and reactionary. Also seems like they only suspect people who vote them.
kokichi, is 'suspecting people who vote for x' something that x does more as mafia than as town? I wonder if you think this is true, if this is a real scumhunting idea you have, and not just posturing for the sake on it once you're going to vote for someone.
I don't read set ups b4 joinin, but I do read the post by mod in game when it starts.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Luckily for you all. I have this game all figured out. But I need Fuyu replacementt to talk 1st.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 1894, Aisa wrote:
I'm moreso asking what made you decide to quote exactly that snippet of mine you quoted.
That quote looks literally so much worse without the context I provided and it meant you avoided actually explaining what your reasons for voting me were at the time. I get that you might not remember, but yeah, if you do happen to remember...
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
