Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Firebringer]

so he would have to be a traitor jailkeeper with the same gating as me?

he doesn't have same gating. he just turned into mafia with killing ability

[Aristeia]

like it seems weird for him to have the your ability works as long as three scum have not perished thing because why would that be in his role pm? I could see him knowing about it if he's groupscum and shea investigated me and told him what my gate was but he's not groupscum if he's a traitor?

[Aristeia]

is it specifically when 3 mafia die or is it when there's 1 mafia remaining

former seems kinda unusual way to format compared to just the lazy modifier

I can use my ability every night until 3 Radiance's Infected die, at which point I can't use it.

Hence my joke about Klick slipping 4 scum, because that's sort of what my role implied to me

this is what he said about his gating - which is the same gating that I have.

[Firebringer]

u claimed the gating first didn't u.

[Firebringer]

To me its either furtive or klick here ari.
So if ur trying to convince me its not furtive, i want to see a case on Klick.

Cause those only 2 it makes sense for me at this point

Gimli is too townie and so is MT.

[Aristeia]

u claimed the gating first didn't u.

no i didnt

[Firebringer]

and literally my only reason i put klick in there because this switcheroo from him townreading me to saying its me, doesn't make sense with a townklick who wants to play optimally and knowing keeping me alive is more optimal play is way more in line with how town him operates.

The fact he switched this on me feels like scum opportunism to freely be able to make kills but at this point ive been chalking it up as town paranoia.

Furtive is the one with least effort and im 100% into my theory that scum WIM is low, and furtive is just sliding by on his role.

[Firebringer]

u claimed the gating first didn't u.

no i didnt

Pretty sure u did.

[Firebringer]

huh maybe u didn't

doesn't change the fact if he is traitor here his role turning into mafia killing makes sense as pseudo gate but i agree that makes less sense than him just being gated town.

[Firebringer]

so furtive is town by role.
thats all i have to call furtive town by at this point.

I am not going to use that at this point. Its so meaningless to me.
He isn't solving or hunting. He is in a great position as scum and sees no need to do it at all.
All of his game plans involve him surviving to end game anyways. He doesn't need to participate in the solving because no matter who goes he remains.

So if u want to argue this is just town furtive being lazy. Go for it.

[furtiveglance]

If you want to say that I'm being lazy as town, make a realistic case for either Fire or Ari being scum. I made a plan that kills or clears everyone else 20 pages ago, like you said.

[Firebringer]

i mean regardless ur being lazy as either alignment tbh

[Firebringer]

my theory is ur traitor
day 1 u tried signaling to ur scum team (alisae came up with this theory first on day 2 i think)
tried to kill petapan yesterday and failed.
then rode the rest of this game being in a deep wolf position.

[furtiveglance]

Not unless you think it's unreasonable for me to assume Aristeia/Fireisredsir are town.

If you accept the premise that I'm town with those beliefs, then I'm just being sensible.

[Firebringer]

i don't think theres a way for u to argue ari/firer are scum in this game without sounding ridiculous and getting eyes on u. So i don't know what ur point is

[furtiveglance]

my theory is ur traitor
day 1 u tried signaling to ur scum team (alisae came up with this theory first on day 2 i think)
tried to kill petapan yesterday and failed.
then rode the rest of this game being in a deep wolf position.

I tried to kill petapan yesterday? Is yesterday the day phase you mean? I thought petapan was scum D2, and changed my mind after the Tracker result. I haven't wanted to kill him since.

[Firebringer]

my theory is ur traitor
day 1 u tried signaling to ur scum team (alisae came up with this theory first on day 2 i think)
tried to kill petapan yesterday and failed.
then rode the rest of this game being in a deep wolf position.

I tried to kill petapan yesterday? Is yesterday the day phase you mean? I thought petapan was scum D2, and changed my mind after the Tracker result. I haven't wanted to kill him since.

I meant on day 2.

[furtiveglance]

i don't think theres a way for u to argue ari/firer are scum in this game without sounding ridiculous and getting eyes on u. So i don't know what ur point is

You tried to call me lazy as either alignment. Which I'm not. I'm town and being sensible.

[Firebringer]

I hope petapan isn't yelling at me in the dead thread for being stupid right now

[Klick]

Like furtive wasn't trying to save peta.
he was arguing that peta was scum because of his jailkeep

That's the thing though
My reading of D2 was that furtive was legit convinced he'd blocked scum and seemed legit surprised when he found out that peta was saved instead of blocked
I don't believe that furtive would have enough confidence that peta was TOWN to push the opposite as a Traitor

[Firebringer]

Like furtive wasn't trying to save peta.
he was arguing that peta was scum because of his jailkeep

That's the thing though
My reading of D2 was that furtive was legit convinced he'd blocked scum and seemed legit surprised when he found out that peta was saved instead of blocked
I don't believe that furtive would have enough confidence that peta was TOWN to push the opposite as a Traitor

He could be scum traitor bussing for town cred.

[Firebringer]

Look who is now coming up with the insane theories.

[Firebringer]

Also klick stop talking to me like u think im town or whatever ur doing.
Its really fucking with my brain

[furtiveglance]

I have my auto plan or if ppl don't want that, we just do FB and Klick because those are the only 2 I can really see it being. 5% of Gimli if we get to a F3.

[Firebringer]

Klick where did u think i was being survivalistic?
I literally have no plan to survive end game here