i usually just glide over setup-talk/setup-spec only because its not a strong suit of mine. i try to stay out of it at all costs.
I believe it's just better to stay quiet of all costs bc we dont want scum getting any more information.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Why? (If you answer this later, ignore. I reply as I read.)
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
There's important thing i cut out of rules and just noticed.
All dead players flip without revealing any information. I am returning this back in "Setup" section.
here, lorne. enchant just decided to make things worse for us.
Then why are we even playing?
I agree it was a pretty big omission and makes scumhunting less rewarding.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 165, Black wrote:
I just want to add, regarding hunting followers/Kira:
If we suspect someone is a follower then we kill them. We don't keep them around to try to see if we can figure out who Kira is from them. Each follower can use Shinigami Eyes correct? That means scum can get two real names a night assuming the followers don't accidently target the same guy. The quicker we get rid of the followers then the less real names are revealed to scum.
What's cool about this game is that the followers can't tell each other or Kira what their eyes discovered overnight. They're gonna have to figure out a way to push that information in public without getting caught
Slightly suspicious of Gimli for even semi-suggesting we ignore followers
I like you already. I agree.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 29, Black wrote:
Kira followers fake claiming is actually genius the more I think about it. The followers don't know each other and Kira doesn't know them, but they all know what skills aren't in play. Claiming a skill that isn't in play let's your two buddies know you're with them
Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a follower
the man is paying attention, and while kira is follower hunting, they might not do so in public like this.
vander gets not kira points and not follower points for this post, imo.
Eh, I feel like that's a weak read. But I guess?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 172, Lorne Malvo wrote:
I want to hang Kira day 5 so we get maximum playing time
I like your style. Getting Kira Day 1 would be boring.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 173, Black wrote:
Ok...weird thoughts on Vander so far...a lot of these actions are NAI but they still pinged me
Do we like spoilers? Do we not like spoilers? Will people read this if I put it in tags or will people hate me for not tagging it and clogging up the page? I have Mafia anxiety
Spoiler: Vander giving me the creeps
In post 14, Vanderscamp wrote:
Thoughts on skills?
I don't see any kind of obvious partial skill claiming plans, I think any advantage to open claiming a skill is probably not worth reducing Kira NK info, but keen to discuss if anyone feels differently
I thought even bringing up skill claiming was weird and it was framed like he definitely doesn't want to do it while also leaving the door open to discuss. Just felt off
Vander agreeing with several things that Gimli proposed here. Not much extra input or anything
In post 78, Vanderscamp wrote:Just Kira who knows which skills aren't in play, right?
Could be informed but also could just be paying more attention to me which is entirely possible lol
In post 79, Vanderscamp wrote:Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a follower
These types of reads are easy to make and I think followers/Kira benefit more from these definitive declarations more than taskforce. I still think it's NAI because Vander could post this as either alignment but I can't help that I felt weird about it
In post 80, Vanderscamp wrote:Does scumBlack typically openly advocate pro-scum strategies?
This just seems like Vander is trying to solve without really putting much thought into it. Posting this question and legit hoping to get an answer back seems like a reach
More sheeping of Gimli with no elaboration on why he likes the thought process
In post 98, Vanderscamp wrote:
I thought kokichi might have been scum for the vote on black for the call for skill claims, but his response to me asking about it felt null
Riding the fence on Kokichi. Keeping the door open
In post 112, Vanderscamp wrote:Nah, I could see it as Kira who sees what skills aren't in play, assumes that the followers also got the same info, and is just trying to tell followers what to do to identify him.
Not a high likelihood world, and I didn't look at that post and think "this looks like Kira coaching," but I could see it being a thing.
In post 107, Black wrote:
Lorne... when you wrote 28 did you know that only Kira can see what skills are in play and not the followers?
How do you know only Kira can see the skills in play?
VOTE: Kawaii
Why does Kawaii get a vote for not reading the rules but not me, especially when you just said I could be Kira?
So yeah... a lot of this is just me getting a vibe that Vander is trying to seem like a proactive townie while really not contributing much of his own stuff. When he is providing he's arguing why people can go either alignment. The skills comment is probably the most scummy thing here along with the Kawaii vote
VOTE: Vanderscamp
Good analysis. What do you think of Gimli saying they were the towniest so far despite all this?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?
i originally tr you for doing the same thing you did in village but then i realized you were doing something weird in village and this is entirely different. iirc you weren't scumreading me for shitposting you were just trying to get reactions. initially. then you were scumreading me for shitposting.
here it looks like you could have just come up with a fake scumread on me and when pressed on it realized you had already done something similar in village where you eventually were scumreading me and you backed off to try and not bring so much attention to yourself, because someone like gimli who played in that game too could fact check you easily.
it's not really a strong read it just kind of makes me go hmm
In post 140, Gimli wrote:
but I feel that meg might have openclaimed kira alignment, and it's still not a good flip because we should be focused solely on kira hunting.
It is a good flip, we need to focus on anyone who is Kira/Kira aligned, not exclusively Kira
Agreed, going for people who are just kira can lead to more miselim's cause we could be overlooking things by not looking for followers too.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 177, Gimli wrote:
they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature
is this softing to kira
Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 180, Lorne Malvo wrote:
I would be down to kill anyone who talks about mechanics too much
Who do you think is the towniest so far?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
You've figured us all out. I am their Ultimate Supreme Leader.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?
i originally tr you for doing the same thing you did in village but then i realized you were doing something weird in village and this is entirely different. iirc you weren't scumreading me for shitposting you were just trying to get reactions. initially. then you were scumreading me for shitposting.
here it looks like you could have just come up with a fake scumread on me and when pressed on it realized you had already done something similar in village where you eventually were scumreading me and you backed off to try and not bring so much attention to yourself, because someone like gimli who played in that game too could fact check you easily.
it's not really a strong read it just kind of makes me go hmm
I scumread anyone who tries to take beginning of the game back to RVS, which it looked like you were trying to do. But, I realized that's NAI for you which is why I unvoted.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 177, Gimli wrote:
they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature
is this softing to kira
Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.
How do you know it's not the case? It can totally be the case. All I know is that I wasn't seeing this signature, then I refreshed it and there it was. Even if we exclude the signature, the posting is making sense as signaling just the same. It's weird cryptic phrasing.
Idk why you're so quick to disregard that as nothing.