Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[DragonEater70]

Lich, since you don't agree with me that DD is scummy, do you think we should try for a Porkens/Enchant wagon?
Also, what's your read on Enchant actually?

[Empathice]

Town:

-Kyoko (genuine sounding curiousity)
-Imaginality (good solving and aggressive even if they're wrong)
-Morning Tweet (logic feels pure)

Townlean:

-Eater
-Rat (my strong tonal early townread isn't holding up well in this phase of the game)
-Kawaii
-TemporalLich (TWTBAW)
-STD
-Porkens (calling people scum for things they are doing themselves seems TWTBAW)

Null:

-Meg
-Flea
-Ranger
-Clone

Scumlean:

-Enchant
-Gimli

Scum:

-Doctor Drew

VOTE: Doctor Drew

HURT: Kyoko, Imaginality, Morning Tweet, Eater, Rat, Kawaii, TemporalLich, Empathice

[Porkens]

“XYZ is towny, abc is scummy”

Quote quote quote

Meta meta

Self meta

Wall wall wall

Solve solve solve

Y’all need to take a break and a shower. Bunch of sweaty try-hards.

Jkjkjk!

I feel like if I had special glasses I could see through the miasma and reveal the two-three scum just floating off in the corners and the one or two doggy paddling furiously to stay afloat in this sea of “solving.”


Sigh lemme iso drew

[Empathice]

Talking about being hated and self resolving, does that sound like good dream flavor role?

[Porkens]

I do see one or two scum-indicators in Drew’s posts but actually reading through his iso highlighted that people in this game put way too much town credit to “solving” and use “solving” as a town signal, even if that “solving” is like basically just saying “this scum this town”

[TemporalLich]

Lich, since you don't agree with me that DD is scummy, do you think we should try for a Porkens/Enchant wagon?
Also, what's your read on Enchant actually?

Doctor Drew is null leaning scummy to me... still see no scumreads from Doctor Drew and he even nullreads Porkens (which is not a scumread and doesn't do anything to shift my read either way)

Porkens is openwolfing (on Day 1, no less) so it should be trivial to speedwagon Porkens... 527 tells me Porkens has no intent on being towny this game whatsoever.

Enchant was scummy early D1 but 232 is when Enchant started having towny vibes... oh and 234 is a factor in me thinking Enchant could be town.

All in all, Enchant feels hard null to me right now.

pedit: Porkens might have a town mindset but openwolfing is openwolfing, there's no such thing as 0.5 openwolfing

[Porkens]

The above is essentially just a color coded list of arbitrary assignment of reads with more words to distract from the fact it is what it is.

How am I “openwolfing?”

I skimmed the game, posted my gutty reads, and am engaging. How is that openwolfing?

[Porkens]

What is openwolfing?

[Porkens]

You are just stoking the mood of the room against me, bandwagoning in shade. Setting me up to be your fall guy.

[Gimli]

more like openporking amirite fellas

[Porkens]

“ Enchant was scummy early D1 but 232 is when Enchant started having towny vibes... oh and 234 is a factor in me thinking Enchant could be town.”

Enchant was scummy. At this one random post they started feeling towny, oh also this other random post is town too.

This is “read progression” based on your gut, but me using my gut is openwolfing because what I don’t use post numbers?

P-edit: gimly town

[TemporalLich]

The above is essentially just a color coded list of arbitrary assignment of reads with more words to distract from the fact it is what it is.

How am I “openwolfing?”

I skimmed the game, posted my gutty reads, and am engaging. How is that openwolfing?

I guess you scumread Ranger then?

Openwolfing is obviously scummy behavior, such as personally attacking the entire playerlist and mocking playstyles and making it clear you have no intentions of game solving or giving out reads. Seriously, 527 is openwolfing.

posts with nothing but quotes and buzzwords are simply low effort posts that anyone could make

pedit: when you make a low effort post then start personally attacking the entire playerlist I have nothing to believe other than openwolfing

[Porkens]

Personally attacking what are you talking about?

[Porkens]

And my first post was not low effort I read 19 pages

[Porkens]

If you feel personally attacked I apologize, that was not my intention at all. I can see how 527 could be interpreted as that. I just woke up and was trying to be funny. My bad. I don’t want anyone to feel attacked and I’m if I made them feel that way I am sorry.

[TemporalLich]

Personally attacking what are you talking about?

the first non-quote line in 527 is what I consider the personal attack (though it was intended to be a joke though, but I still scumread that post for that reason)

And my first post was not low effort I read 19 pages

it's a lead rist with no elaboration so I can't tell

[TemporalLich]

If you feel personally attacked I apologize, that was not my intention at all. I can see how 527 could be interpreted as that. I just woke up and was trying to be funny. My bad. I don’t want anyone to feel attacked and I’m if I made them feel that way I am sorry.

thank you

[DragonEater70]

I do see one or two scum-indicators in Drew’s posts but actually reading through his iso highlighted that people in this game put way too much town credit to “solving” and use “solving” as a town signal, even if that “solving” is like basically just saying “this scum this town”

When did Drew highlight that exactly?

[DragonEater70]

I do see one or two scum-indicators in Drew’s posts but actually reading through his iso highlighted that people in this game put way too much town credit to “solving” and use “solving” as a town signal, even if that “solving” is like basically just saying “this scum this town”

Sorry I misread that horribly.
I agree that there's a bit too much emphasis on "solving" as town indicator. That's why I am not TRing some players who are "solving" but only people who actually sound townie.

[DragonEater70]

so it should be trivial to speedwagon Porkens

Maybe I am misreading your tone but isn't this sentence basically open wolfing in itself? Like why would you want to speedwagon anyone?

[DragonEater70]

The above is essentially just a color coded list of arbitrary assignment of reads with more words to distract from the fact it is what it is.

Are you talking about Lich's post?

[DragonEater70]

I'm genuinely asking because there are no colors in it.

[DragonEater70]

What is openwolfing?

From the mafia.gg wiki:
"To behave, as a mafia, in a way that invites discussion and suspicion, typically to attract town attention away from another mafia. Likely to cause town to miscondemn, but also likely to cause town to condemn the player openwolfing."

[DragonEater70]

posts with nothing but quotes and buzzwords are simply low effort posts that anyone could make

This is actually a sentiment I disagree with. Yes,

anyone

could do these posts, even town! In my first game on this site I had a player who had maybe 5 posts at one point two of which were naked votes based on a quote, and they were town, and they actually caught the scum that nobody else were even considering a possibility. So quotes with little content is very very far from scum indicative.

[TemporalLich]

Maybe I am misreading your tone but isn't this sentence basically open wolfing in itself? Like why would you want to speedwagon anyone?

it would be easy to speedwagon an openwolf since they are both scummy and LHF.

as for me actually wanting to speedwagon Porkens... I did think that would be a good idea when it seemed like Porkens was openwolfing and not intending to play the game but now I don't think it would be a good idea since Porkens might have a town mindset (but I really do want to see some effort from Porkens)

still think Porkens belongs in the PoE along with imaginality and Doctor Drew.

pedit: I said anyone, that meant even town. When towny players are actually engaging in the game instead of making low effort posts, I would conclude scummy because of PoE.

also, thought I had voted but I didn't...

VOTE: Porkens