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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:07 am

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Not a VC, I just want this pagetop.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 125, Alianna wrote: Not a VC, I just want this pagetop.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:12 am

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In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote: I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
What gives you this impression? Have they played together?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:16 am

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Yes
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:17 am

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That coupled with the vague reasoning, like they want someone else to make the case for Ice.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:17 am

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In post 127, Black wrote: Have they played together?
If we're just limiting to IceDragon70 then ongoing game, if we include games from DragonEater70 then Weird Dreams Mafia I and Open 874
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:19 am

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In post 94, usesPython wrote: Eh, this can be solved pretty easily. IceDragon70 is your main DragonEater70?

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Also no need to answer this question anymore, it's public info apparently
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:23 am

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In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote: i just skimmed this game before work and it makes negative sense

ill read everything more attentively later but i doubt itll make any more sense
At the risk of agreeing with you.....I uh, kinda agree.

I fear Ice is being used as mis-elim bait, they do have a style that gets them in hot water, and you kinda get that after playing a few games with them.

I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
Yeah, and I kind of feel you should know that it wouldn't be the wisest thing for scum!me to go after Dragon specifically in a game with you lol
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:26 am

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In post 130, usesPython wrote:
In post 127, Black wrote: Have they played together?
If we're just limiting to IceDragon70 then ongoing game, if we include games from DragonEater70 then Weird Dreams Mafia I and Open 874
Oh yes sorry, I wasn't including ongoing games, and forgot that not everyone knew they were the same person.

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But that is a bit of a wifomy defense.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:43 am

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I don't know that any of you have quite crossed the line with regards to game integrity, but this is a reminder not to discuss ongoing games. A complete explanation of ongoing games rules can be found here.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:53 am

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In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote: i just skimmed this game before work and it makes negative sense

ill read everything more attentively later but i doubt itll make any more sense
At the risk of agreeing with you.....I uh, kinda agree.

I fear Ice is being used as mis-elim bait, they do have a style that gets them in hot water, and you kinda get that after playing a few games with them.

I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
Why do you think scum would go for lim-bait instead of actively hunting for the other groupscum?

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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:08 am

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In post 135, usesPython wrote:
In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote: i just skimmed this game before work and it makes negative sense

ill read everything more attentively later but i doubt itll make any more sense
At the risk of agreeing with you.....I uh, kinda agree.

I fear Ice is being used as mis-elim bait, they do have a style that gets them in hot water, and you kinda get that after playing a few games with them.

I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
Why do you think scum would go for lim-bait instead of actively hunting for the other groupscum?

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Trying to catch the other faction taking it hook line and sinker, perhaps? That'd be my guess.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:17 am

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Spoiler: Quotes too deep
In post 136, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 135, usesPython wrote:
In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote: i just skimmed this game before work and it makes negative sense

ill read everything more attentively later but i doubt itll make any more sense
At the risk of agreeing with you.....I uh, kinda agree.

I fear Ice is being used as mis-elim bait, they do have a style that gets them in hot water, and you kinda get that after playing a few games with them.

I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
Why do you think scum would go for lim-bait instead of actively hunting for the other groupscum?

-A
Trying to catch the other faction taking it hook line and sinker, perhaps? That'd be my guess.

Yeah but like Drew is saying Bianco is scum for going after what Drew considers limbait, my point is that I think scum have the
biggest
incentive to properly scumhunt since it prevents a lim from their own team while also getting rid of a threat and gives them +town.

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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:20 am

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Okay, so... People want to wagon Dragon for his vote, but people also want to wagon the people who want to wagon Dragon, but people also want to wagon the people who want to wagon the people who want to wagon Dragon? Am I clear on where we stand?

@_@

In that case I guess my vote can stay where it is cuz clearly that's going to be the next cool little wagon.



Meanwhile, Mala didn't even answer the question that started all this nonsense. :(
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 135, usesPython wrote:
In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote: i just skimmed this game before work and it makes negative sense

ill read everything more attentively later but i doubt itll make any more sense
At the risk of agreeing with you.....I uh, kinda agree.

I fear Ice is being used as mis-elim bait, they do have a style that gets them in hot water, and you kinda get that after playing a few games with them.

I kind of feel Bianco would and should know that.
Why do you think scum would go for lim-bait instead of actively hunting for the other groupscum?

-A
Wasn't really thinking about that tbh.

But in multiball like this, and if you are scum there is always a chance that the lim-bait is scum. Personally I wouldn't overthink things on D1 and just try to find the easiest path and just hope for the best.

PEdit: Nowhere did I say let's wagon Bianco. And you wonder why I always have my eye out for you lol.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:25 am

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In post 139, Doctor Drew wrote: But in multiball like this, and if you are scum there is always a chance that the lim-bait is scum. Personally I wouldn't overthink things on D1 and just try to find the easiest path and just hope for the best.
I think I agree with this. Everyone is trying to lim scum D1, even scum
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:29 am

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I was thinking more of Python at that step than bianco. People are definitely trying to wagon Python. And furtive is apparently after Bulge, who is after Python? I'm reading in spurts from work, but I think that's what going on!
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:37 am

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In post 140, Black wrote: I think I agree with this. Everyone is trying to lim scum D1, even scum
Yeah D1 scum scumhunting the other groupscum and town scumhunting is gonna look functionally identical, the only real way to effectively catch scum this early is to see if anyone cracks from rolling scum

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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 141, Aureal wrote: I was thinking more of Python at that step than bianco. People are definitely trying to wagon Python. And furtive is apparently after Bulge, who is after Python? I'm reading in spurts from work, but I think that's what going on!
It's cause people love our charming personality and hate our playstyle :wink:

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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 141, Aureal wrote: I was thinking more of Python at that step than bianco. People are definitely trying to wagon Python. And furtive is apparently after Bulge, who is after Python? I'm reading in spurts from work, but I think that's what going on!
Oh I get it, there is more I need to catch up on, but the Bianco/Ice thing was really the first thing that caught my eye and is/was deserving of a bit of a deep dive on.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:45 am

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UNVOTE: usesPython
Revoking my RVS because this one doesn't currently agree with this wagon.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:51 am

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In post 138, Aureal wrote: Okay, so... People want to wagon Dragon for his vote, but people also want to wagon the people who want to wagon Dragon, but people also want to wagon the people who want to wagon the people who want to wagon Dragon? Am I clear on where we stand?

@_@

In that case I guess my vote can stay where it is cuz clearly that's going to be the next cool little wagon.



Meanwhile, Mala didn't even answer the question that started all this nonsense. :(
I think you're drawing connections that aren't necessarily there. You're kind of implying that people are wagoning Python
because
they're wagoning Dragon, which it's possibly true for Oclaxian but I'd say not for Bulge; and you're even implying that furtive is voting the Bulge
because
they're wagoning a wagoner of Dragon, which... strains the imagination, and would make little sense since the middle ring of the chain is missing anyway
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:06 am

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Not really we just think Python is scum, but Dragon wagon plays into that a little.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:07 am

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The more I look at it the more it’s because of the Dragon vote, but a little for mainhunting/general read on Dragon, which I guess is simply the vote?
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:08 am

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In post 147, Oclaxian Empire wrote: Not really we just think Python is scum, but Dragon wagon plays into that a little.
Nah y'all just didn't like us "main hunting" and metaing someone's main

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