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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:48 am

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Black (4): Kokichi Oma, HighPrincessErinys, usesPython, biancospino
usesPython (2): Oclaxian Empire, The Bulge
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With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-04-20 18:48:28).
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:13 am

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In post 355, Black wrote: The more I think about the meta wagon the more I'm not liking it from Kokichi. It seems like a convenient way to turn his RVS vote on me into something serious. It's also something I can't really defend myself against because meta arguments are pretty subjective

It would make sense for Kokichi to come into our second game together wanting me dead. I was able to see through his little town disguise in Death Note at the end, and it led to us winning the game in a situation where town was destined to lose. I feel like that could have caused him to view me as a threat here

Likelihood of scum on my wagon probably goes something like Kokichi > python > Bianco? > HPE
This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:14 am

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Vote black, guaranteed scum here.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 376, Kokichi Oma wrote: This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me
No it's not? Where did I say I would've SRed you if StD didn't fake claim?

Also why do you seem so upset all the sudden?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 181, Black wrote: Rule 1: Kokichi is never right about me

Rule 2: I am unbuddyable unless you send cat pics
Says this to discredit when we've only been in 1 game together when I was scum and she was town and I correctly called her town day 1 early (it was a game like this one where scum has to scumhunt)
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 378, Black wrote:
In post 376, Kokichi Oma wrote: This is a flat out lie. You townread me and if it wasnt for StD claiming scum you wouldn't have scumread me
No it's not? Where did I say I would've SRed you if StD didn't fake claim?

Also why do you seem so upset all the sudden?
Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:17 am

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Bruh, was a pure joke post...
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 380, Kokichi Oma wrote: Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone
Because you know I'm right about you

Town doesn't make a gambit with their life halfway through D1 on a pure gut meta read
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:19 am

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In post 382, Black wrote:
In post 380, Kokichi Oma wrote: Why would I be upset, you're the leading wagon, one scum almost gone
Because you know I'm right about you

Town doesn't make a gambit with their life halfway through D1 on a pure gut meta read
You changed you're reaction after I said it wasn't a town reaction. Easy scum move.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:19 am

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Sorry you rolled scum when I was town actually
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:21 am

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In post 383, Kokichi Oma wrote: You changed you're reaction after I said it wasn't a town reaction. Easy scum move.
Where did I change my reaction?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 384, Kokichi Oma wrote: Sorry you rolled scum when I was town actually
I'm sorry you're so wrong. And confidently wrong too, lol
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 372, Black wrote:
In post 371, usesPython wrote: Yeah but then it loses them even more town points if you flip town. Unless you just slipped?
Do you actually think I'm getting flipped off of a meta case today? Because I don't, and I guarantee you Kokichi doesn't either. He ends D1 with a net gain in town points, and doesn't lose any until I flip town
This doesn't parse for this one. How does he gain town points if you just... flip town? ESPECIALLY after all this?
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 387, HighPrincessErinys wrote: This doesn't parse for this one. How does he gain town points if you just... flip town? ESPECIALLY after all this?
I was saying I'm not going to be flipped today. Python's point was that it doesn't make sense for town!Kokichi to propose this because he loses town points if I flip town. My argument is that we won't find out if I'm town or not until later, so Kokichi will have earned town points from just proposing the 1v1 gambit until I flip
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:29 am

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I don't know where Black's statement there about you being wrong comes from. And I disagree that Death Note was like this- and you had to scumhunt- you didn't know who one scum was but they were allied to you, not opposed. Strategy on dealing with that was totally up to you. Were you actually trying to scumhunt your partner?

Basically I'm mega confused why this is even an argument. Kokichi and Black barely have any meta (one game is a poor basis for good meta even though it's something people do all the time) even if one does accept that this game is just like DN and Kokichi was trying to read her there.

Pedit: above @Kokichi ofc, I see her explanation about that being a joke but not sure I buy it, that line doesn't make sense as a joke if she's town though the cat pics line totally is
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:31 am

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181 was absolutely a joke. When I wrote it I couldn't even remember a time Kokichi even had an opinion on me
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:34 am

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I guess that's plausible for Death Note, yeah. I couldn't remember his opinion on you there without going back to read some of his ISO. He did eventually express a townread, though he barely talked about it.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:36 am

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In post 391, Aureal wrote: I guess that's plausible for Death Note, yeah. I couldn't remember his opinion on you there without going back to read some of his ISO. He did eventually express a townread, though he barely talked about it.
That's the only time I've interacted with Kokichi

Like I'm cool with you guys calling me a liar but I promise you 181 was purely a joke post
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:38 am

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Kokichi is tunneling on a gut read and using confirmation bias to make stuff seem scummy that isn't

I don't like it at all
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:52 am

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I'm not calling you a liar. :(

Actually I guess since you responded right away explaining that you didn't even remember Kokichi's opinion, it's pretty believable...
In post 393, Black wrote: Kokichi is tunneling on a gut read and using confirmation bias to make stuff seem scummy that isn't

I don't like it at all

I don't like most anything Kokichi does. XD
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:54 am

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Mmh, this one isn't too super sure how it feels about this wagon as a whole. Might just head over to the Drew wagon since materializing and calling for others to join a bianco wagon still leaves a bad taste in its mouth.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:20 pm

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In post 37, osuka wrote: what's up nerds
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:23 pm

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In post 76, The Bulge wrote: multi is the perfect number of balls
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:25 pm

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In post 99, Oclaxian Empire wrote: VOTE: python

i strongly dislike ur reason of “this person might be an alt of X”

quit main hunting.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 395, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Mmh, this one isn't too super sure how it feels about this wagon as a whole. Might just head over to the Drew wagon since materializing and calling for others to join a bianco wagon still leaves a bad taste in its mouth.
I thought, and still do think, that Bianco has a high probability of being scum. You can disagree with me on that read, but why wouldn't I want a wagon on a scum read?
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