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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:43 pm

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In post 48, Andante wrote:town
That doesn't help me a ton unfortunately.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:47 pm

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In post 49, Andante wrote: also, the votes flying my way has me thinking we're a T/T pair cause if yall think about it, scum know their lover, and they know their partner's lover. scum will want to vote in any of the 4 that aren't a scum pairing to get 2 town out... just saying
You have two votes.


Do you really think that's enough to be relevant at this stage of the game?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:47 am

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In post 46, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 40, chad thunder wrote:
In post 39, Bub Bidderskins wrote: Wait,

UNVOTE:

Didn't really register with me that this is a mini game so that would put Vander at L-3 already.

Gonna:

VOTE: Andante

I'm torn on the idea of openly discussing theory like that. On the one hand the Mafia inherently has an information edge in general, but in this game there may be some edge the mafia can gain if everything's out in the open.
This kind of post seems indicative to me that Bub is trying to put on the appearance of looking pro-town rather than actually being pro-town.

L-3 is like nothing. Like how can you even apply pressure if you're too scared to put on a second vote. I feel like Bub worrying about putting a player at L-3 by adding *just* a second vote shows he's worried about optics here.

And I think schadd_ once said "first unvote is always a wolf."

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:14 am

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In post 38, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 36, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 30, Bub Bidderskins wrote: My lover won't talk to me :(
Sorry bub
VOTE: Vanderscamp

I'm sorry it has to end this way.
VOTE: Bub
where there's smoke.

From this it looks like Vander is your lover, you may want to correct me if that's not the case. Otherwise voting/unvoting your lover, with no valid reasons attached to the unvote, looks very bad. It looks like you want to put on a show that you are considering wagoning your lover, which would be -EV for scum to do, while arbitrarily not actually doing it
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:18 am

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Official Vote Count 1.02With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Bub Bidderskins
(3): chad thunder, Not Known 15, biancospino
biancospino
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 51, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 49, Andante wrote: also, the votes flying my way has me thinking we're a T/T pair cause if yall think about it, scum know their lover, and they know their partner's lover. scum will want to vote in any of the 4 that aren't a scum pairing to get 2 town out... just saying
You have two votes.


Do you really think that's enough to be relevant at this stage of the game?
Quoting this just because it would be hilarious if both votes are from scum
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:21 am

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In post 40, chad thunder wrote:
In post 39, Bub Bidderskins wrote: Wait,

UNVOTE:

Didn't really register with me that this is a mini game so that would put Vander at L-3 already.

Gonna:

VOTE: Andante

I'm torn on the idea of openly discussing theory like that. On the one hand the Mafia inherently has an information edge in general, but in this game there may be some edge the mafia can gain if everything's out in the open.
This kind of post seems indicative to me that Bub is trying to put on the appearance of looking pro-town rather than actually being pro-town.

L-3 is like nothing. Like how can you even apply pressure if you're too scared to put on a second vote. I feel like Bub worrying about putting a player at L-3 by adding *just* a second vote shows he's worried about optics here.

And I think schadd_ once said "first unvote is always a wolf."

VOTE: Bub Bidderskins
Still early so all these reads are flimsy, but this is a decent town tell for Chad in my book for trying to move out of RVS into actual discussion.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:23 am

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biancospino jumping onto the wagon at the easiest point, but it's productive to get a wagon going this early and I don't think the scum are naive enough to think this wagon is close to escape velocity this early on.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:24 am

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:/

That's a really weak reason to townread someone. We were hardly in RVS to begin with.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:26 am

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In post 58, Umlaut wrote: :/

That's a really weak reason to townread someone. We were hardly in RVS to begin with.
Everything's a weak reason for anything at this stage.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:29 am

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I mean sure, but even by those standards this is weak. It doesn't make sense since we were already having real discussion as of like #24. You yourself were already making a somewhat serious vote in #39.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:31 am

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Why are you so invested in trying to reduce the number of people who are townread?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:34 am

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I'm more interested in reading you specifically since you're the wagon of the hour, so specifically I'm trying to figure out how legitimate your townread is.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:34 am

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I said "specifically" twice which is kind of awkward, oh well
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:52 am

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lol I tr my lover and umlaut is definitely town here, this game be easyyyy oooh this bub wagon... interesting
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:53 am

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vander also lean town. bam! leaves scum in 4 people. I'm too good :)
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:48 am

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In post 65, Andante wrote: vander also lean town. bam! leaves scum in 4 people. I'm too good :)
I wish I was this overconfident.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:43 am

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In post 53, biancospino wrote:
In post 38, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 36, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 30, Bub Bidderskins wrote: My lover won't talk to me :(
Sorry bub
VOTE: Vanderscamp

I'm sorry it has to end this way.
VOTE: Bub
where there's smoke.

From this it looks like Vander is your lover, you may want to correct me if that's not the case. Otherwise voting/unvoting your lover, with no valid reasons attached to the unvote, looks very bad. It looks like you want to put on a show that you are considering wagoning your lover, which would be -EV for scum to do, while arbitrarily not actually doing it
Can confirm we're lovers.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:44 am

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In post 57, Bub Bidderskins wrote: biancospino jumping onto the wagon at the easiest point, but it's productive to get a wagon going this early and I don't think the scum are naive enough to think this wagon is close to escape velocity this early on.
What's your opinion on Andante analyzing her votes?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:46 am

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In post 64, Andante wrote: lol I tr my lover and umlaut is definitely town here, this game be easyyyy oooh this bub wagon... interesting
What do you think about the wagon in terms of bub's alignment?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:23 pm

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In post 69, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 64, Andante wrote: lol I tr my lover and umlaut is definitely town here, this game be easyyyy oooh this bub wagon... interesting
What do you think about the wagon in terms of bub's alignment?
mehh haven’t had time to put much thought into it yet tbh
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 70, Andante wrote:
In post 69, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 64, Andante wrote: lol I tr my lover and umlaut is definitely town here, this game be easyyyy oooh this bub wagon... interesting
What do you think about the wagon in terms of bub's alignment?
mehh haven’t had time to put much thought into it yet tbh
You're not worried that the three non-you votes flying his way are scum trying to vote in a non-scum pairing to get two town out?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:32 pm

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they probably have better logic than the votes going my way, cause if I really am a T/T pair, throw votes my way so I can self hammer
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:33 pm

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i’ve been busy irl and no one else has really done anything significant this game, it’s beryyy slow
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:42 pm

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