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[redFF]

suit yourself

[Doctor Drew]

I was waiting for T3 to say who they targeted.

I have proof that red is scum.

I tracked red to Miti.

VOTE: red

[redFF]

Lol

[Doctor Drew]

Lol

That's one way to respond to a guilty.

[redFF]

I have the guilty! You are lying scum!

[Doctor Drew]

I have the guilty! You are lying scum!

This is another way of responding to a guilty.

[redFF]

you are the one who is responding to a guilty, not me.

[Doctor Drew]

you are the one who is responding to a guilty, not me.

Your fake claim or not, I was making that post after I heard who T3 targeted either way.

Kinda makes sense why bristep went hard after me before your 'claim'.

[redFF]

w/e. im not gonna argue with you. more votes on drew

[DeasVail]

I intend to vote drew

[DeasVail]

I will wait until kop has posted before voting

[Doctor Drew]

I intend to vote drew

I will wait until kop has posted before voting

And ftr, Deas didn't go anywhere N1.

Though I fear this may fall on deaf ears.

[bristep123]

@Doctor Drew let’s follow this thread then, why track red last night? Also how does this correlate with your certainty that I’m scum since Red was hard on me d2 only changing vote to hammer Dessew?

[Kop]

I was waiting for T3 to say who they targeted.

I have proof that red is scum.

I tracked red to Miti.

VOTE: red

I probably won't make any sense here as I've just finished a 16 hour shift, and my head isn't straight.

But why would you wait to see who T3 said he targeted, if you have any information already that Red visited Miti and Miti is dead? I'm assuming that it doesn't alter anything.

[Kop]

Well that sucks.

We could lose tonight, so I don’t want us to rush anything because we have to be as sure as we can to elim scum today. With that said however,

VOTE: Doctor Drew

The late stages of day 2 are really suspicious. Jumps on my wagon earlier than they probably intended, didn’t push it solidly and also didnt challenge people who townread me. Supports a Mala and Dess elim as well, both of whom are now confirmed as town, sadly because of their deaths. There’s a strong air of weak pushes and sitting behind stronger cases.

I started to believe that you weren't scum, but this post makes me unsure now. It's not always the case in these particular scenarios, but it's something that I look for when a night finishes, and majority of the cases I've seen it, it flips more scum than town. However things may have changed since the last time I looked out for these particular tells.

But given the information thats just come out, I think you're low on priorities right now.

[Kop]

I'll do a proper read back through the previous couple of pages, but from what I saw when I was glancing through earlier, there are several things that I dislike, and different scenarios ran through my head.

One thing that I hate from town, and I'm in agreement with Chill here. As town, there are only certain scenarios that you lie about, T3 case is one of them as it gives scum something to think about as to whether they pursue him or leave it as they believe his lie. Since you want to get more out of the role. But that is the only time that I believe that you should lie, but what I've seen in the past couple of pages, it just doesn't make any sense at all why as town you withhold the information, even after being pressed hard for it. It makes shit less believable, it doesn't help town, and it certainly doesn't help the game state and helping your win con if your town.

So, do I believe Reds claim on Drew? Withholding the information that has been requested, is making me in the less believing camp. I would like to believe it, but this could easily be a gambit.

Could Drew be telling the truth about Red visiting Miti? This could easily be taken as Red telling the truth and Drew is trying to buy a elimination on Red and living a extra day, since he came out with this information AFTER Red has made the claim. Others play the game differently, I know I've done it in the past where I've had information and tried to hold on to it as long as possible, but other times if I have a guilty, I come straight out with it. It does feel that this is a counter attack, but Red isn't making this any easier in what to believe.

But it could be a scenario that Drew could be telling the truth and it's red getting a day out of it and buying a partner credit, as Red as simply taken one for the team.

And an outsider chance that this could be a HUGE gambit from scum, where one scum claims a guilty on a partner, go back and forth and then an elimination flips one of them as scum and the partner rides on the credit.

(I need sleep so I ain't deciding what's the truth atm.)

[bristep123]

In the interest of balance I should ask the same of Redff - why did you choose to investigate Doctor Drew?

[DeasVail]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

My best guess for other scum is Bristep

[DeasVail]

For what it’s worth though, I indeed did not go anywhere N1

[redFF]

In the interest of balance I should ask the same of Redff - why did you choose to investigate Doctor Drew?

Because i thought he was scummy

[redFF]

The idea that tchill was pushing - that i could be town faking a guilty, is out the window now with drew's counterclaim. Its him or me at this point

Lets say im scum....why would i start the day by faking a guilty on a random player? I was under no pressure to be limmed. If im scum drew flips town, i get vigged or limmed the next day. It makes no sense. On top of that, the town player i fake a guilty on just so happens to have tracked me to the NK, but only claims this after i reveal i have a guilty on him. That would be a pretty big coincidence!

Regarding me full-claiming. Trust me when i say any additional information i have does nothing for town, and just gives more info to mafia. The only relevant point is that i have a guilty on drew.

[bristep123]

That’s fair, he was high on your scum list end of d2 - just wondered if there was more thought behind choosing him over me as I was your top scum read at the end of the day.

I believe you though at any rate, Drew’s claim of tracking you makes way less sense to me - and waiting for T3 confirming who they shot is so, so sus. If they tracked you then just say so regardless, only scum would be worried about getting caught in a lie under those circumstances.

[Tchill13]

I think red is town. Because this "big play" would be dumb as hell to do as scum. Red would just get eliminated next day phase. We already got one scum in college/enchant. So there'd have to be 2 night kills...

And while it's actually possible that happens. I don't believe t3 would be dumb enough to shoot and possibly give scum the win if drew flipped town here.

The absolute absurdity it would be if t3 and red were both scum... Which I don't think to be the case.

[Tchill13]

Oh shit drew counter claimed.

I'll have to look back at drew. None of this makes sense. Cus if drew is scum here and red flips town then drew gets eliminated immediately next day phase. So neither "possible" scum are making good long term plays here.

If you're drew idk why you'd counter claim when you didn't have to. Enough questionable actions from red had already been established before Drew's claim.

[Tchill13]

Heres where my reads are rn

Town

T3
TChill
DV
Mittilos
Kop
Malakittens
Dessew
Doctor Drew
Bristep

Scum

From your previous posts it seemed bristep was on your radar as well. If you're actually a PR I'm hard assuming you've interacted with bristep with an action.