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[Mislim Bait]

GreyIce neverclaimed bulletproof
I see how it could be misunderstood
but I'm treestump

I'm Weyoun Six, member of the Temporal Alliance. The first time I die, I stick around.

...huh. I guess that claim technically

could

be treestump. I honestly can't come up with a valid assessment for why a town player would go for that (GreyICE very clearly wanted to create that ambiguity), but I also can't refute that it's possible that's what happened, and I can't see how it would be a beneficial move as scum.

I wouldnt use the word 'die' here to describe a bulletproof

[Mislim Bait]

whether elim or night killed I just become a tree stump

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm not sure who is scum here

[fferyllt]

VC 4.1

xyzzy (1): Mislim Bait
kokichi (1): Aureal

Not Voting (5):

Aureal, Kokichi Oma, petapan, xyzzy, PenguinPower

With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to eliminate

Deadline: April 28, Midnight US Eastern Time

countdown: (expired on 2023-04-27 21:00:00)

Mod Notes

• 

[Aureal]

@mod: I'm voting Kokichi.

Hmmmm.

Alright then, I do kinda believe the treestump thing given the way Grey worded it. I'm not

entirely

convinced this slot is clear, but it seems unlikely that MB plays the way they do, TRing me and bussing Porkens, if they're the last Black Ops.

So, here's my info. I'm the Chief of Security, Tasha Yar. I put xyzzy in the brig last night. So it's pretty unlikely xyzzy made that nightkill. Unless we think they used the Unstoppable shot from the Borg Queen on LLD for some reason when they think they'd need it to kill MB, or there's someone else out there who made that kill, xyzzy should be clear.

So can we just vote Kokichi already? He's clearly not at all interested in playing this- odds are it's just because he's scum who's checked out of a game they feel is unwinnable. Even if this is town, we can't take this complete and utter apathy to a potential final four.

[fferyllt]

@mod: I'm voting Kokichi.

Fixt, Thanks!

[Mislim Bait]

auriel who did you target the previous nights?

@Kokichi
@Penguin
@petapan
We need your fullclaims

[petapan]

I got a question to xyzzy
if you know you're a miller then why didn't you claim it at d1?
thats 100% should be your first posts of the game instead of a flavor hint

it would've been good for the town if I'd been the target of a night kill; if I claim miller, scum is directly incentivized to leave me alone. I'm also not convinced it would've been at all beneficial to the town — a miller claim is inherently super WIFOM-y. there's obviously the drawback that an investigative role might waste a night checking me instead of just assuming I'd for sure come up scum, but that drawback doesn't outweigh the benefit of possibly blanking a night kill imo.

tanking a night kill is 100% not worth it compared to possibly outing our investigatives which ends up in you getting elim as town and inves getting nked

Even if it does theres very small chances of you getting shot by scum this game.
You've been suspected the whole game and its more likely that you get investigated than getting nked
You should've given up that plan much much earlier

yeah that sounds super delusional

[petapan]

I'll get to this tomorrow. But, I hate that I went back on my pork read. Also I'm still so confused about Borg. Is it actually a 3rd party? or what. Both borgs have been scum and Kawaii slot claimed borg. Soo...

no it's literally just flavor

the scum roles had the ability to interact with players with borg flavor, in particular porkens could affect their actions with his role

this means that unless you assume the game is outright bastard there should be at least one town member with a borg role

[petapan]

i had already come around to xyzzy being town just on the whole way they'd claimed bulletproof

@mod: I'm voting Kokichi.

Hmmmm.

Alright then, I do kinda believe the treestump thing given the way Grey worded it. I'm not

entirely

convinced this slot is clear, but it seems unlikely that MB plays the way they do, TRing me and bussing Porkens, if they're the last Black Ops.

So, here's my info. I'm the Chief of Security, Tasha Yar. I put xyzzy in the brig last night. So it's pretty unlikely xyzzy made that nightkill. Unless we think they used the Unstoppable shot from the Borg Queen on LLD for some reason when they think they'd need it to kill MB, or there's someone else out there who made that kill, xyzzy should be clear.

So can we just vote Kokichi already? He's clearly not at all interested in playing this- odds are it's just because he's scum who's checked out of a game they feel is unwinnable. Even if this is town, we can't take this complete and utter apathy to a potential final four.

what are your night actions, in full?

[Aureal]

Nothing else that matters in any way, unfortunately.

[Kokichi Oma]

auriel who did you target the previous nights?

@Kokichi
@Penguin
@petapan
We need your fullclaims

i don't have any night actions

[petapan]

my full flavor is the borg collective, i can copy the action of a player i target at night if they use a non-factional, non-killing action that night and use it on a later night

on night 1 kawaiikame targeted black and didn't get anything, night 2 was no action submitted

i targeted lld last night because she had an unknown 3rd ability which turned out to be a lousy vote stealing ability

[petapan]

auriel who did you target the previous nights?

@Kokichi
@Penguin
@petapan
We need your fullclaims

i don't have any night actions

what is your role then?

[Mislim Bait]

my full flavor is the borg collective, i can copy the action of a player i target at night if they use a non-factional, non-killing action that night and use it on a later night

on night 1 kawaiikame targeted black and didn't get anything, night 2 was no action submitted

i targeted lld last night because she had an unknown 3rd ability which turned out to be a lousy vote stealing ability

Isn't borg collective the name of a group
so you got no night 2 because kawaii didn't submit any?

[Mislim Bait]

Mech talk

So I've got a theory because of the surprisingly lack of borgs this game given that mafia's two flipped roles is based around them
I thought at first that borg might be a traitor because of hebi's kit of finding borgs and adding them into a neigborhood but porkens literally got a role for using them as bodyshields so it doesn't make sense that they're aligned.
So maybe borgs exists outside of the original flavor
Idk if you've noticed but hebi's role mentioned the borg collective in it

Hebichan was

Seven Of Nine, Borg Liaison of Black Ops

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome to the strangest temporal anomaly ever observed in the Four Quadrants!

You are

Seven Of Nine, Borg Liaison of Black Ops

.

With experience and exposure, you've grown impatient with the way Starfleet regulations too often tie the Federation's hands when it comes to responding to threats and opportunities. Section 31 discovered this and recruited you as an expert on the Borg and Black Ops liaison [redacted]. The temporal anomaly represents both existential threat and unimaginable opportunity for Starfleet, for the Federation, and for a potential alliance of equals with the Borg. You are ready to help grasp the opportunity and and neutralize the threat.

Your abilities:

• Speak Freely:
  The Black Ops Team are [redacted]. You can communicate privately at any time during the game, day or night here (PT link).
  
• You say that I am a human being and yet, I am also Borg:
  Each night you can visit another player. Your implants will detect if that player is or has ever been a part of the Borg Collective.
  
• Time to regenerate:
  If you learn that the player you visit is or has been Borg, you have the option to create a neighborhood with the player. Once the neighborhood is established, you can choose to add any subsequent Borg/former Borg you locate to the neighborhood.
  
• You will be assimilated:
  Should [redacted] be eliminated or killed, you will be able to assimilate and salvage any actions [they] had not yet used. You will be able to use those actions with the same conditions and restrictions starting on the next Night phase.
  
• Critical Intelligence:
  You know that the second to last ability in every
  Temporal Alliance
  role pm is "
  
• Citizen of the Galaxy:
  While you live, you have the inalienable right to use your voice and your vote as you see fit.

Win Condition:

You win when

Black Ops

achieves numerical parity with remaining non-

Black Ops

players.

The Game thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=90629

Please confirm by replying with a paraphrase or quote of the third Game Specific Rule.

Since your flavor is borg collective maybe you're turning people into borgs or something

[Mislim Bait]

petapan could honestly be 3p but we worry about that after we flip scum

[fferyllt]

PenguinPower has been prodded.

[Mislim Bait]

Nothing else that matters in any way, unfortunately.

I just want to know who you targeted

[Mislim Bait]

why does kokichi keep disappearing after reading like 1 or 2 posts

[Mislim Bait]

@auriel I saw you suspected kokichi the entire time why'd you block xyzzy instead?

[Mislim Bait]

just to be clear are you role blocker or jail keeper?

[petapan]

my full flavor is the borg collective, i can copy the action of a player i target at night if they use a non-factional, non-killing action that night and use it on a later night

on night 1 kawaiikame targeted black and didn't get anything, night 2 was no action submitted

i targeted lld last night because she had an unknown 3rd ability which turned out to be a lousy vote stealing ability

Isn't borg collective the name of a group
so you got no night 2 because kawaii didn't submit any?

Mech talk

So I've got a theory because of the surprisingly lack of borgs this game given that mafia's two flipped roles is based around them
I thought at first that borg might be a traitor because of hebi's kit of finding borgs and adding them into a neigborhood but porkens literally got a role for using them as bodyshields so it doesn't make sense that they're aligned.
So maybe borgs exists outside of the original flavor
Idk if you've noticed but hebi's role mentioned the borg collective in it

Hebichan was

Seven Of Nine, Borg Liaison of Black Ops

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome to the strangest temporal anomaly ever observed in the Four Quadrants!

You are

Seven Of Nine, Borg Liaison of Black Ops

.

With experience and exposure, you've grown impatient with the way Starfleet regulations too often tie the Federation's hands when it comes to responding to threats and opportunities. Section 31 discovered this and recruited you as an expert on the Borg and Black Ops liaison [redacted]. The temporal anomaly represents both existential threat and unimaginable opportunity for Starfleet, for the Federation, and for a potential alliance of equals with the Borg. You are ready to help grasp the opportunity and and neutralize the threat.

Your abilities:

• Speak Freely:
  The Black Ops Team are [redacted]. You can communicate privately at any time during the game, day or night here (PT link).
  
• You say that I am a human being and yet, I am also Borg:
  Each night you can visit another player. Your implants will detect if that player is or has ever been a part of the Borg Collective.
  
• Time to regenerate:
  If you learn that the player you visit is or has been Borg, you have the option to create a neighborhood with the player. Once the neighborhood is established, you can choose to add any subsequent Borg/former Borg you locate to the neighborhood.
  
• You will be assimilated:
  Should [redacted] be eliminated or killed, you will be able to assimilate and salvage any actions [they] had not yet used. You will be able to use those actions with the same conditions and restrictions starting on the next Night phase.
  
• Critical Intelligence:
  You know that the second to last ability in every
  Temporal Alliance
  role pm is "
  
• Citizen of the Galaxy:
  While you live, you have the inalienable right to use your voice and your vote as you see fit.

Win Condition:

You win when

Black Ops

achieves numerical parity with remaining non-

Black Ops

players.

The Game thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=90629

Please confirm by replying with a paraphrase or quote of the third Game Specific Rule.

Since your flavor is borg collective maybe you're turning people into borgs or something

petapan could honestly be 3p but we worry about that after we flip scum

i'd have to be 3rd party without a kill regardless but i'm just town

and no i'm just copying the abilities people use

[Aureal]

Hmm, I'm a little concerned about MB's questions, feels like maybe trying to figure out if they need to kill me tonight instead of you. Do you want me to answer them, peta? I assure you that I can see no useful protown information in the answers but I'll answer if you want.

[Mislim Bait]

why are you sure?
dont you have the strange world ability
Isnt it weird that hebi could find people who's part of the borg collective and your flavor is literally the borg collective
besides theres got to be something to explain the lack of borgs