i don't like the reads you've been making. they dont follow natural for me.
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i like the trisposting lately i think it feels like she's poking at things she's genuinely interested in and wants to pull them apart a lil and solve them
i am somewhat conflicted on meuh bc i have gut scumread a few posts but i also like the things she's saying about skitter. i will think on this
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Those are indeed my real feelings on the gameIn post 227, Meuh wrote:Spoiler:
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The culmination of all of these takes feels just very meh, I'm moreso getting "this is the logical assumptions to take from what's been posted" than real feelings on the game.
What do u think abt ausuka ?
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Like do you have any feelings or thoughts on the content that i posted? What does 'this is the logical assimptions to take from wjat's been posted' even mean here? Like why do you think these aren't my 'real feelings'?ShowHiatus once more.
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looks to me like their thought was a different thought from yours. just about the same postIn post 249, skitter30 wrote:Had a similar thought as me as ausuka but somehow ending with me being scummy
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I'm not great at remembering details of games, especially when it's been a minute. I have a vague recollection of Ausuka feeling attacked that game and being kind of bummed out. Which isn't really the vibe I've had this game.In post 236, Meuh wrote: However, I still feel like the dance game and Ausuka being town there would be seeping in the way he engages with her, which I know has been the case for myself and Fire has also mentioned it. Feeling kinda meh here
To your point about nitpicking...I would actually agree I'm nitpicking here. Trying to understand a person's thinking is helpful to me. I wouldn't say I scum read Ausuka here. I don't think what she's saying about sky is super strong, but I wanted to untangle WHY she was saying that and see if there is authentic depth to the thought process. I'm trying to untangle the ball of people around ausuka because I think that's where the most interesting stuff in the game is happening, and understanding ausuka is pretty key to that.YOUR AD HERE
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i'll try to provide an overall summary later.In post 250, tris wrote:i don't like the reads you've been making. they dont follow natural for me.
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- How am i sittijg on the sidelines? I started the ausuka push?In post 236, Meuh wrote:Spoiler:
OOOOOOOOOF this string of posts
Skitter sitting on the sidelines and just casting shade and nudging Ausuka towards the Sky scumread is definitely concerning to me (confirmation bias? who's that?). Asking Ausuka how convinced she is of Sky being scum both serves a purpose for scum and is a really odd question for town? I don't really see the thought process that leads you to believe that's a particularly relevant question.Also I just think Ausuka's town. The logic she's using here is slightly iffy but I can 100% see a townie and more specifically town!Ausuka make the conclusions being made here.
I dislike Baltar's towards Ausuka up to these posts in general. Stuff like 124 feels more like picking at things that are slightly illogical than genuine curiosity at Ausuka's alignment, but picking at those things, if I recall correctly, is what Baltar tends to do. However, I still feel like the dance game and Ausuka being town there would be seeping in the way he engages with her, which I know has been the case for myself and Fire has also mentioned it. Feeling kinda meh here
- Where am i nudging ausuka towards townreading sky?
- i asked ausuka abt her sky read b/c her statement abt 'sky was planning to read me this way' only makes sense if she was accusing sky as being scum, and she didnt seem to convinced oc that read yet, so there was a disconnect there that i was trying to understakd. And even so that approach doesnt make sense ...
- town!ausuka is a *very* interestkng take and i'd loke to hear a lot more abt it, in particular in relation to how she's expecting sky to read her. Can yoy talk more abt this?
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I mean it's reductive and doesnt describe what was actually happeningIn post 242, tris wrote:
hold on, is this the post people are saying is ausuka being scummy for overreacting to being scumread? because here she was being prompted to characterize the discussion around her. and saying she doesn't know how to respond to it. doesn't feel like she's reacting strongly to it. its more passive.In post 122, Ausuka wrote:
I'm kind of, uh, I don't know the word for it but this game is just likeIn post 115, VP Baltar wrote: I find the fire, skitter, ausuka, osuka group has something off and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like a series of overreactions that contribute to the next. To be fair to ausuka, she's just kind of there, so would love her take on those other three specifically.
Hellbrooks is maybe millennial.
"wow ausuka is SOOOO awkward lol she must be scum"
"lol that's just ausuka lmao"
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Well scum don't like being wagoned, i don't think town care as michIn post 246, tris wrote:
ok well then why would she be anxious about it?In post 244, skitter30 wrote:
Afraid is a more extreme word. I think a person can be anxious (i.e. have some negative emotion abt it) withoht getting to the level of being afraidIn post 209, tris wrote:
what is the difference between being afraid of the wagon and being anxious?In post 144, skitter30 wrote: Also no, i don't think she was *afraid* of the wagon at all, but this post had a lot of anxious vibes and that's ehat pinged - i don't think town would be anxious, and that was a strange clause at the end ...ShowHiatus once more.
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KkIn post 256, tris wrote:
i'll try to provide an overall summary later.In post 250, tris wrote:i don't like the reads you've been making. they dont follow natural for me.
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'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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this meuh post did feel like more of a stretch to me than othersIn post 257, skitter30 wrote:
- How am i sittijg on the sidelines? I started the ausuka push?In post 236, Meuh wrote:Spoiler:
OOOOOOOOOF this string of posts
Skitter sitting on the sidelines and just casting shade and nudging Ausuka towards the Sky scumread is definitely concerning to me (confirmation bias? who's that?). Asking Ausuka how convinced she is of Sky being scum both serves a purpose for scum and is a really odd question for town? I don't really see the thought process that leads you to believe that's a particularly relevant question.Also I just think Ausuka's town. The logic she's using here is slightly iffy but I can 100% see a townie and more specifically town!Ausuka make the conclusions being made here.
I dislike Baltar's towards Ausuka up to these posts in general. Stuff like 124 feels more like picking at things that are slightly illogical than genuine curiosity at Ausuka's alignment, but picking at those things, if I recall correctly, is what Baltar tends to do. However, I still feel like the dance game and Ausuka being town there would be seeping in the way he engages with her, which I know has been the case for myself and Fire has also mentioned it. Feeling kinda meh here
- Where am i nudging ausuka towards townreading sky?
- i asked ausuka abt her sky read b/c her statement abt 'sky was planning to read me this way' only makes sense if she was accusing sky as being scum, and she didnt seem to convinced oc that read yet, so there was a disconnect there that i was trying to understakd. And even so that approach doesnt make sense ...
- town!ausuka is a *very* interestkng take and i'd loke to hear a lot more abt it, in particular in relation to how she's expecting sky to read her. Can yoy talk more abt this?
Tbh a lot of this is kinda ~words~ that doesnt align with the content of my push so uh i'd like you to elaborate more pleasehere's what it says-
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I mean most of her posts feel stretch-y, yeah
And that one doesnt really reflect what i've been saying either so ...
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which part of it is like that? is it the word awkward instead of anxious? the second line is pretty much exactly what osuka said.In post 259, skitter30 wrote:
I mean it's reductive and doesnt describe what was actually happeningIn post 242, tris wrote:
hold on, is this the post people are saying is ausuka being scummy for overreacting to being scumread? because here she was being prompted to characterize the discussion around her. and saying she doesn't know how to respond to it. doesn't feel like she's reacting strongly to it. its more passive.In post 122, Ausuka wrote:
I'm kind of, uh, I don't know the word for it but this game is just likeIn post 115, VP Baltar wrote: I find the fire, skitter, ausuka, osuka group has something off and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like a series of overreactions that contribute to the next. To be fair to ausuka, she's just kind of there, so would love her take on those other three specifically.
Hellbrooks is maybe millennial.
"wow ausuka is SOOOO awkward lol she must be scum"
"lol that's just ausuka lmao"
like what do i do with that really
but like, an early rvs wagon with no actual justification doesn't mean much. when im scum, i actually kind of like having an rvs wagon on me. its fun. i dont know if ausuka feels like that, but i don't think she would be very bothered by it.In post 260, skitter30 wrote:
Well scum don't like being wagoned, i don't think town care as michIn post 246, tris wrote:
ok well then why would she be anxious about it?In post 244, skitter30 wrote:
Afraid is a more extreme word. I think a person can be anxious (i.e. have some negative emotion abt it) withoht getting to the level of being afraidIn post 209, tris wrote:
what is the difference between being afraid of the wagon and being anxious?In post 144, skitter30 wrote: Also no, i don't think she was *afraid* of the wagon at all, but this post had a lot of anxious vibes and that's ehat pinged - i don't think town would be anxious, and that was a strange clause at the end ...here's what it says-
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For the first bit:In post 266, tris wrote:
which part of it is like that? is it the word awkward instead of anxious? the second line is pretty much exactly what osuka said.In post 259, skitter30 wrote:
I mean it's reductive and doesnt describe what was actually happeningIn post 242, tris wrote:
hold on, is this the post people are saying is ausuka being scummy for overreacting to being scumread? because here she was being prompted to characterize the discussion around her. and saying she doesn't know how to respond to it. doesn't feel like she's reacting strongly to it. its more passive.In post 122, Ausuka wrote:
I'm kind of, uh, I don't know the word for it but this game is just likeIn post 115, VP Baltar wrote: I find the fire, skitter, ausuka, osuka group has something off and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like a series of overreactions that contribute to the next. To be fair to ausuka, she's just kind of there, so would love her take on those other three specifically.
Hellbrooks is maybe millennial.
"wow ausuka is SOOOO awkward lol she must be scum"
"lol that's just ausuka lmao"
like what do i do with that really
but like, an early rvs wagon with no actual justification doesn't mean much. when im scum, i actually kind of like having an rvs wagon on me. its fun. i dont know if ausuka feels like that, but i don't think she would be very bothered by it.In post 260, skitter30 wrote:
Well scum don't like being wagoned, i don't think town care as michIn post 246, tris wrote:
ok well then why would she be anxious about it?In post 244, skitter30 wrote:
Afraid is a more extreme word. I think a person can be anxious (i.e. have some negative emotion abt it) withoht getting to the level of being afraidIn post 209, tris wrote:
what is the difference between being afraid of the wagon and being anxious?In post 144, skitter30 wrote: Also no, i don't think she was *afraid* of the wagon at all, but this post had a lot of anxious vibes and that's ehat pinged - i don't think town would be anxious, and that was a strange clause at the end ...
'Wow ausuka is soooo awkward lol she must be scum'
Nobody said shemustbe scum - that's overreacting to something that nobody said
I don't like that that was her major response to people talking abt her until prodded more
For the second bit:
Idk, that was the vibe i got from the 'let me live!!!!!!' part. I don't think town says that, and i think it's more likely to come from scum
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For me it's that your opinions there felt boilerplate and would be what a scum player would see as the most reasonable takes to post from looking at the game, but I think a townie genuinely trying to analyse the game tends to stray from those opinions. From my own experience playing scum, it's a general tendency to cling onto those surface level scummy things that are posted because even if they promote your agenda, the reasonableness of those reads is something you can fall back on. Even if you're wrong on Ausuka being scum, you can go back and say "hey, but AusukaIn post 253, skitter30 wrote: Like do you have any feelings or thoughts on the content that i posted? What does 'this is the logical assimptions to take from wjat's been posted' even mean here? Like why do you think these aren't my 'real feelings'?wasscummy". This is exactly what I did the last game I played. Ausuka had a strong reaction to a push and I took advantage of this to further cast doubt on her because I knew it was reasonable to and I wouldn't catch too much backlash for it. I can see your approach here aligning with my own scumgame quite well and it makes me uneasy.
A townie trying to look at the game and genuinely scumhunting will question themselves when seeing general "scummy" behaviour and often come out of it thinking this behaviour wasn't scummy in the first place. All of those opinions you had within that post fit that same purview of being able to fall back on their reasonableness, while that's not how a townie thinks. A townie's view of the game deviates from the general assumptions people tend to make in a way I don't really see in your posting. I don't think any of those opinions like individually make you scum but as a collection, none of them have that townie quirkiness that a lot of reads have. I don't think I'm explaining this super well but that's how I felt there.-
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Okay yes I like thisIn post 255, VP Baltar wrote:
I'm not great at remembering details of games, especially when it's been a minute. I have a vague recollection of Ausuka feeling attacked that game and being kind of bummed out. Which isn't really the vibe I've had this game.In post 236, Meuh wrote: However, I still feel like the dance game and Ausuka being town there would be seeping in the way he engages with her, which I know has been the case for myself and Fire has also mentioned it. Feeling kinda meh here
To your point about nitpicking...I would actually agree I'm nitpicking here. Trying to understand a person's thinking is helpful to me. I wouldn't say I scum read Ausuka here. I don't think what she's saying about sky is super strong, but I wanted to untangle WHY she was saying that and see if there is authentic depth to the thought process. I'm trying to untangle the ball of people around ausuka because I think that's where the most interesting stuff in the game is happening, and understanding ausuka is pretty key to that.
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Ok that makes a lot more sense actually. I think that post is townie
(Although i don't really agree with the 'my feelings are boilerplate' bit - if that were the case, i don't think so many people would be objecting to them or telling me ot's *unreasonable*)
(Also i think i'm generally a p reasonable person as either alignment ...)
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1. That comment specifically was what was "sitting on the sidelines". Nudging Ausuka, who's the center of attention at the moment, into taking a stronger stance on Sky irked me. Getting Ausuka to take a harsher stance could make Sky take one in return or even give more momentum or credence to a Sky push. Your general position in the game isn't what I was talking about when referring to the sidelines, it was at that moment in particular.In post 257, skitter30 wrote:
1. How am i sittijg on the sidelines? I started the ausuka push?In post 236, Meuh wrote:Spoiler:
OOOOOOOOOF this string of posts
Skitter sitting on the sidelines and just casting shade and nudging Ausuka towards the Sky scumread is definitely concerning to me (confirmation bias? who's that?). Asking Ausuka how convinced she is of Sky being scum both serves a purpose for scum and is a really odd question for town? I don't really see the thought process that leads you to believe that's a particularly relevant question.Also I just think Ausuka's town. The logic she's using here is slightly iffy but I can 100% see a townie and more specifically town!Ausuka make the conclusions being made here.
I dislike Baltar's towards Ausuka up to these posts in general. Stuff like 124 feels more like picking at things that are slightly illogical than genuine curiosity at Ausuka's alignment, but picking at those things, if I recall correctly, is what Baltar tends to do. However, I still feel like the dance game and Ausuka being town there would be seeping in the way he engages with her, which I know has been the case for myself and Fire has also mentioned it. Feeling kinda meh here
2. Where am i nudging ausuka towards townreading sky?
3. i asked ausuka abt her sky read b/c her statement abt 'sky was planning to read me this way' only makes sense if she was accusing sky as being scum, and she didnt seem to convinced oc that read yet, so there was a disconnect there that i was trying to understakd. And even so that approach doesnt make sense ...
4. town!ausuka is a *very* interestkng take and i'd loke to hear a lot more abt it, in particular in relation to how she's expecting sky to read her. Can yoy talk more abt this?
Tbh a lot of this is kinda ~words~ that doesnt align with the content of my push so uh i'd like you to elaborate more please
2. I said scumreading. I think you were trying to make Ausuka lean harder into the scumread.
3. That's fair actually
4. Ausuka's response to the push reminds me a LOT to the early push on her in the dance game, where she was town. The intensity of it, the feelings around it, the counter-scumread on someone who was scumreading her...
Unless Ausuka is very good at replicating this set of feelings and reactions as scum (she might be, I've only played once with her and she was town), to me this just lines up very well with her town game and the general stance she held when a lot of people were questioning her and the lack of backing down felt right.
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Oh also Skygazer's town
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