Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

[Ausuka]

ok i'm here time to GAMESOLVE and SOLVE THE GAME

[skitter30]

Also i hope you're doing ok hellbooks

[skitter30]

V exciting!!!

[Ausuka]

Hrn damn this is difficult

Why did no one tell me gamesolving would be so hard

[Ausuka]

Oh skitter you're here

I feel like you were saying earlier you think I'm good at scum but I don't think you've been treating me that way so far

Why is that

[skitter30]

Wdym

[Ausuka]

I mean you alluded earlier to the fact I won both of my recent scumgames in f3 and was widely townread for most of the game in both. This game i have been under constant pressure early and everyone thinks i'm awkward/unreasonable/whatever. Others also compared it to a recent towngame of mine so like I am pretty surprised you seem to have not taken this into account at all

[Meuh]

if you were scum skitter and seeing that the ausuka campaign was being met with a ton of resistance and also were finding your own personal standing in jeopardy from pushing it, what would you do? im genuinely curious. my first thought would be "well wouldnt scum want to try and wind this down and look for an easier miselim?" but maybe people dont actually think like that. maybe people die on hills more often than i think, instead of intentionally executing scum actions that benefit their own, maybe they do their best to just fully adopt a town mindset, with all its associated baggage, and counterproductive results. what narrative makes more sense here to you all?

imo the way Skitter’s posting here makes me think that if scum/town with Ausuka, Skitter thinks her case against Ausuka is strong and

should

be sticking. As I’ve said before with my “reasonable” argument, I think it’s a hill Skitter’s willing to die on because it’s a sensical one and it’s one that isn’t offensively bad in any way.
Maybe there would be an attempt to pivot though, that’s a fair thought. This may be confirmation bias or a poor analysis of the way Skitter plays but I think she’d orient herself towards maintaining a solid set of opinions first and trying to save face second. As long as she has a solid net of respectable posts and takes, it’s a lot harder to pick at the way she’s playing.
This may just be me, but when I play scum I do generally orient myself towards promoting the scum agenda, but my first priority is to just have a lot of decent and defensible opinions to lean on and play as naturally as possible. Someone more confident might be more willing to deviate from this to promote their agenda, but I also think that scum don’t necessarily push their agenda super hard at every step of the way. Often, they’re just trying to play naturally and decently, if my own approach to the game when scum is anything to go off of.
Idk if I communicated that super well but those are my feelings on it

[Ausuka]

from skimming the thread i think i might have to reconsider my fire read but im not sure yet. baltar is a question mark and so is skitter

meuh feels town but id say thats definitely within the scumrange of most players so ill have to hold off on clearing that for d1

By question marks what do you mean exactly? Like, what's the point of posting this

[skitter30]

I mean you alluded earlier to the fact I won both of my recent scumgames in f3 and was widely townread for most of the game in both. This game i have been under constant pressure early and everyone thinks i'm awkward/unreasonable/whatever. Others also compared it to a recent towngame of mine so like I am pretty surprised you seem to have not taken this into account at all

I don't think i've seen a recent towngame and just b/c you're good at scum doesnt make you can't have an awkward entrance sometimes

Like are you saying i shouldnt think you're scum b/c scum-you would be playing better?

[skitter30]

@meuh if i'm getting a ton of flak i don't think i'm super likely to stick to my guns as scum generally

[Ausuka]

I'm saying I think there should be at least a post where you like, engage with that concern yes even if you don't stop scumreading me. Why is that wrong

[Ausuka]

To elaborate on what I mean

1) it's a point that fire and meuh brought up, about the dance game specifically - I feel like it's something town is likely to think about? Like, yes they can reject it for whatever reason, but not like reading the game or responding to the concern feels odd
2) it's not just the 'awkward entrance' thing - you have been portraying basically everything i post as like totally unreasonable to the point it can't be town and implying that it is surprising anyone would read me as town. i don't really think that's all that compatible with believing someone is a good scum player.

[Ausuka]

Oh you're going to portray the can't as a lie again

Yes i am aware you did not say it literally can never be town etc etc

[skitter30]

I don't really understand what concern you think i should be engaging you abt? That i think you have a good scumgame?

Pedit i'm not at a point in my life where i have enuf time to meta entire other games, sorry. Having an expectation for me to do that is silly. I wasnt in that game, i don't know how you played, i'm noy going to read that game now.

For the second point: it's an awkward entrance coupled with a bad reaction to a sr coupled with a weird sr of sky coupled with general lack of solving. Like one or two of those, fine, but altogether you feel scummy to me. I don't really understajd why other people are townreading you, no. Also this is a bizarre thought: you have a good scumgame so i should be engaging with other people's townreads on you? What? How does that even make sense ... why should i be giving those reads weight, if anything i think i should give them *less* weight if you have a good scumgame

(i also feel like the way you wrote this second point is manipulative)

@ausuka

[skitter30]

Oh you're going to portray the can't as a lie again

Yes i am aware you did not say it literally can never be town etc etc

Yes, but i find this to be hyperbolic and scummy ...

[VP Baltar]

To elaborate on what I mean

1) it's a point that fire and meuh brought up, about the dance game specifically - I feel like it's something town is likely to think about? Like, yes they can reject it for whatever reason, but not like reading the game or responding to the concern feels odd
2) it's not just the 'awkward entrance' thing - you have been portraying basically everything i post as like totally unreasonable to the point it can't be town and implying that it is surprising anyone would read me as town. i don't really think that's all that compatible with believing someone is a good scum player.

I really don't understand the argument that the dance game is evidence you're town here. I also think you're misreading skitter pretty blatantly in point 2.

[hellbooks]

what if we all just took a deep breath and a step back and then wagoned meuh
meuh, are you ok withthat ? just lmk

[VP Baltar]

what if we all just took a deep breath and a step back and then wagoned meuh
meuh, are you ok withthat ? just lmk

My preferred lim pool right now is actually [fire, ausuka, meuh]

[skitter30]

Spicy

[VP Baltar]

I think there's approximately zero chance those three are all town.

[skitter30]

Talk to me more abt the meuh read? I'm actually feeling better abt her

[VP Baltar]

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

This post bugs the hell out of me, mostly. Meuh's obv pushing you, but idk how she sees Hellbrooks as your buddy.

Picking Osuka as my potential buddy also feels like "this person isn't really here".

I think I'm pretty townie this game.

And the rest are town? Sorry that is a silly take to me

[tris]

sorry sorry. i just got embarrassed. like i know skitter is one of those Great Players and maybe shes like reading that and being like wtf are you saying lol do you even play this game more than once a year

i feel this every time i post..

[tris]

what if we all just took a deep breath and a step back and then wagoned meuh
meuh, are you ok withthat ? just lmk

My preferred lim pool right now is actually [fire, ausuka, meuh]

why fire? is it just the townread on you or more?