TM 2023 | Mini Normal | Endgame

[DkKoba]

I'm not going to signal to scum I have a PR role either like be serious. I didn't expect to be checked because I traditionally am a player who dodges investigatives (despite being a good target for them lol)

[DkKoba]

Is mastinas role even possible for town here if I'm also town

[DkKoba]

like unless you're arguing scum have 2 goons because 2 guiltyable roles sounds crazy

[Malakittens]

right
ok

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 3.03

DkKoba (3):

DrippingGoofball, Malakittens, mastina

DrippingGoofball (1):

DkKoba

Not Voting (5): Freedom, Ausuka, DeasVail, xofelf, Shirou

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2023-05-12 21:25:52)

Mod Notes

DkKoba is v/la through 5/6

[DkKoba]

right
ok

and what purpose if I'm going to likely flip anyways and flip red do I have for trying today?

[Shirou]

FOR US TO STALL
SO THEY CAN WIGGLE OUT

They're never wiggling out of this today and if they ever have a chance to, I VOW to not let it happen. I already said in the hood I wanted Koba dead in D3 as soon as I saw the quickhammer.

but if enough people decide they just wanna say koba is scum and do nothing else it does become antitown pretty quickly

How is it antitown Ausuka?

If Koba flips scum we can look back to what they said today and how other slots reacted to the guilty, and if they ever flip town for some miraculous mod troll, we can also look back to today.

Even if we kept mostly thumb twiddling for another week I think that would still be pro-town because more content no matter how small it is, is always better in this somewhat inactive game I think.

I think the unique argument for it to be anti-town is because it could generate "apathy" but really, a red flip would surely get us more motivated again in the next day anyway. A town flip even more considering how shocking it would be.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is mastinas role even possible for town here if I'm also town

So you know mastina is town

[Shirou]

The bottom contributors of this game by amount of posts so far are Freedom, Xof, DGB and Mastina.

If possible, I would very much like for each of them to utilize this time and give us a full readlist with some explanations for why the slots are placed the way they're.

I think it's also fair game if you assume Koba is confirmed scum in your readlist and build it up from that perspective.

[Shirou]

Also, we want something to discuss? Alright.

If we're all so confident Koba is scum, why not assume this is already D4 and Koba flipped Mafia Multitasking Roleblocker already?

What slots would we be interested on pressuring in that likely scenario?

[Shirou]

Koba I also recommend you if ever town to stop trying to save yourself from a elimination and focus more on dunno, leaving a legacy solve or so?

I think it's a certainty that we're voting you today to solve this "tension" but that's only worst scenario for you if scum, if town although it's not a good hand to be dealt, it's still possible for you to work towards something meaningful for tomorrow.

I don't think you're town but just saying. No one is gonna buy the narrative of leaving a multitasking alive today...trying to "prove" you're town would neither work or be helpful contribution for tomorrow.

[Freedom]

An update to my reads though would be that Koba replaces DV as my strongest SR.
Though it's mainly because of that quickhammer as I feel like Koba could very well be bussed rn.
On the other hand, Koba and DV's interactions don't really look aligned.

Who fits with me then?

I'm not sure but I guess mastina could be bussing you.

[Freedom]

Though, mastina is kinda nullscum for me and it was her result that kinda put the nail in your coffin.
As it would've been easier for you to survive if it wasn't known you were Multitasking.

[Freedom]

The bottom contributors of this game by amount of posts so far are Freedom, Xof, DGB and Mastina.

If possible, I would very much like for each of them to utilize this time and give us a full readlist with some explanations for why the slots are placed the way they're.

I think it's also fair game if you assume Koba is confirmed scum in your readlist and build it up from that perspective.

Sure.
I'm busy today but expect a readslist from me when I get the time.

[DrippingGoofball]

I wasn't going to bother but seeing Shirou stirring things up for "content" looks to me like a strategy to distract players and make them focus on a shiny new object that is not Koba.

So right now I am changing my mind and am scumreading Shirou.

How 'bout dat, kitty kat?

[DrippingGoofball]

Also putting mastina in the list of bottom contributors?

CLEARLY this isn't based on word count.

[DeasVail]

Also, we want something to discuss? Alright.

If we're all so confident Koba is scum, why not assume this is already D4 and Koba flipped Mafia Multitasking Roleblocker already?

What slots would we be interested on pressuring in that likely scenario?

I do have thoughts on this but was hesitant to do this while Koba's still alive, partly because of the (probably very unlikely) town-koba scenario, but mostly because I wasn't necessarily sure I wanted scum knowing where I'd be going. This is probably OTT caution on my part though, so if enough people are wanting discussion today I'm happy to share my Koba-scum-world thoughts.

[Malakittens]

dgb is never scum if koba flips scum.

[DeasVail]

dgb is never scum if koba flips scum.

I'm interested in why on this.

[Malakittens]

b/c i said so
meta

[Shirou]

I wasn't going to bother but seeing Shirou stirring things up for "content" looks to me like a strategy to distract players and make them focus on a shiny new object that is not Koba.

kinda..lol?

lmao, even?

If I'm scum here I always bus Koba because it's literally inevitable so why risk my slot that is being massively town read for a partner that is going down? Especially when I would have already "bussed" Koba multiple times in the past days.

However I was aware I was probably gonna be accused of this anyway, it was within my "calculations", so I'm just smiling.

The reasonable explanation on why I'm doing all this is because I'm not losing the opportunity to see more SvS interactions, direct or indirect, when I'm not too sure who would be scum with Koba if we flipped them right now.

[Shirou]

But if you wanna tie me up with Koba you can go ahead

Free content either way, let's see who jumps on that~

[Malakittens]

nvm i was told to hold off on that

disregardr

[Shirou]

Also putting mastina in the list of bottom contributors?

CLEARLY this isn't based on word count.

Well I took a quick look at Activity Overview, and considered whether I should include Mastina or not given she was closer to Mala/DV levels of activity, but off the top of my head I didn't remember a lot of instances I got deep insight on her reads besides Arko/Koba/Mala, so I also want to hear more from her if possible

[Ausuka]

but if enough people decide they just wanna say koba is scum and do nothing else it does become antitown pretty quickly

How is it antitown Ausuka?

If Koba flips scum we can look back to what they said today and how other slots reacted to the guilty, and if they ever flip town for some miraculous mod troll, we can also look back to today.

Even if we kept mostly thumb twiddling for another week I think that would still be pro-town because more content no matter how small it is, is always better in this somewhat inactive game I think.

I think the unique argument for it to be anti-town is because it could generate "apathy" but really, a red flip would surely get us more motivated again in the next day anyway. A town flip even more considering how shocking it would be.
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shrug i see what you're saying i think but i think apathy/'twiddling your thumbs' is likely to just lower energy levels for the town even more

I also just think koba's posting today is likely to be calculated to screw with us if they're scum and i am not particularly inclined to read into it