Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

[osuka]

1214 is a fucking asinine post. the more i read it, the more annoyed i get

i'm going to fuck off for a second because i need to get on a call and if i have to repeat myself even ONCE more about the fucking baltar defense and "demanding to be townread" i'm gonna blow a fucking gasket

[osuka]

i'll claim if i'm at e-1 and if i am then you can blame whoever put me there and just get rid of them afterwards

[skitter30]

You were at e1 for a sec
I think hellbooks/sky/tris/ausuka contain at least one scum, could be two. Incidentally this is the makeup of your wagon so i am not feeling Great abt it

[Meuh]

You were at e1 for a sec
I think hellbooks/sky/tris/ausuka contain at least one scum, could be two. Incidentally this is the makeup of your wagon so i am not feeling Great abt it

What makes that group include at least one scum?

[osuka]

what i think is strange is that if ausuka is scum, why does she unvote me here?

[Meuh]

Also I'm still very down to do Hellbooks

[osuka]

like her latest string of posts fucking reeks but that makes no sense to me. if she's scum then surely she just keeps the vote on me?

[hellbooks]

i think ausuka is town but to your answer your Q from a general point of view, if scum thinks theyre in a secure position then theres no reason not to slowroll for optics right?

[Ausuka]

I would absolutely unvote as scum here because only doing things that are in your very short-term direct interest is a great way to get caught easily

[Meuh]

what i think is strange is that if ausuka is scum, why does she unvote me here?

Hmm, I'd assume scum!Ausuka either:
-Thinks the changing her vote will have no outcome on the day
or
-Thinks her and her partner are both safe, so she's fine with maybe disrupting your death

Unless it's specifically you/Ausuka lol

But also she's just town so...

[Ausuka]

His recent posts have kind of reinforced the idea that osuka believes what he's saying tho or otherwise it's a very convincing performance

[skitter30]

You were at e1 for a sec
I think hellbooks/sky/tris/ausuka contain at least one scum, could be two. Incidentally this is the makeup of your wagon so i am not feeling Great abt it

What makes that group include at least one scum?

The fact that i sr all of them + are pushing a sketchy wagon

[Ausuka]

I mean it's possible that he is doing the thing where he's like "i played suboptimally ON PURPOSE to get townread, why are you all too stupid to realise my play was suboptimal as scum???" but like meh

[skitter30]

His recent posts have kind of reinforced the idea that osuka believes what he's saying tho or otherwise it's a very convincing performance

How did you come to that conclusion between your vote and unvote

[Ausuka]

I didn't, i unvoted because meuh was talking about hammering

[Meuh]

His recent posts have kind of reinforced the idea that osuka believes what he's saying tho or otherwise it's a very convincing performance

How did you come to that conclusion between your vote and unvote

I'm pretty sure Ausuka is coming to that conclusion after the unvote, and the unvote was so I couldn't steal the hammer
Pedit: yeah

[skitter30]

Yeah that'a how i originally read it so i don't see why the unvote is townie for ausuka here

[skitter30]

i think ausuka is town but to your answer your Q from a general point of view, if scum thinks theyre in a secure position then theres no reason not to slowroll for optics right?

Like what does this even mean ?

[skitter30]

Osuka any interest in voting hellbooks????

[Ausuka]

It's consistent with the belief osuka defending baltar is townie in that it would be in a vacuum better for scum ausuka if a hammer on osuka were to happen soon

I think in practice scum don't really behave that way

[Meuh]

Yeah that'a how i originally read it so i don't see why the unvote is townie for ausuka here

I assume it's because scum!Ausuka would just want town!osuka dead to make sure things don't derail?
Not really convinced it's town indicative, but I was actively threatening to hammer osuka so there I guess there can be some meaning in the unvote

[Meuh]

i think ausuka is town but to your answer your Q from a general point of view, if scum thinks theyre in a secure position then theres no reason not to slowroll for optics right?

Like what does this even mean ?

I read that as:
If scum are in a secure position, they know no one from their team would be limmed. Therefore, posing an action that would prevent a townie from dying (osuka in this case) would make sense for the sake of towncred in the long run

[skitter30]

No? I don't think ausuka would get long term towncred of osuka flips town here for unvoting? Like that sounds good but i don't think that would happen in reality so ot's a little unlikely in my mind that scum would havd that thought (and it makes it weird that hellbooks is calling this out as a point of note)

[fireisredsir]

i feel about the same as hellbooks on that point and have said that same thing in similar situations as town before

[hellbooks]

ok just from like a freaking stone cold practical point of view lets just get this shit going. please can everyone clairfy who theyre fine with voting im kind of going off what impressions im getting. i know this is probably not an ideal organization system but datisi probably wont let me institute a Ranked Choice Google Form Link so idfk. here's this logic-puzzle-style tableau of bloodthirstiness.

voter	helly	osuka	baltar	fire
ausuka	no	YES	YES?	no
skitz	YES	no	no	??
skyg	sure?	YES	no	no
balts	no	no	no	YES
osuka	??	no	no?	yes?
tris	no?	YES	no?	no?
fire	??	??	YES	no
helly	YES	YES	YES	YES
meuh	YES	SURE	YES	no?

IF YOU WANT TO LIM ME: i assume osuka will get on board to save his own skin, and maybe fire, and then i'll hammer
IF YOU WANT TO LIM OSUKA: seeing as it went to L-1 the steps for this seem doable.
IF YOU WANT TO LIM BALTAR: then i guess convince one of the people townreading baltar
IF YOU WANT TO LIM FIRE: tbh seems pretty tricky but if you can herd the cats then fuck it ill pull my weight
IF YOU WANT TO LIM YOUR SILLY LITTLE VANITY WAGON: then YOU FREAKING FIGURE IT OUT go door to door or some shit!!!