Open 878: Scarfolk Council | The End

[Alianna]

Dammit, I was so obv vig that game as well.....still bitter about it.

[Alianna]

I still haven't read up on the wagons, let me do that.

[Alianna]

@mod

- are we getting a replacement for Dunn?

[Alianna]

The wagon on Andante's pretty good, but Drew has said he wants to catch up so I don't know why he's being wagoned either.

I'll keep that in mind, ty

Why is the wagon on Andante good?

Came in with some brazen stuff and immediately self-declared obv town. The assumption ig is that scum wouldn't engage in any bravado or start questioning TRs on themselves? But that assumption is worth more when it's not Andante just saying "So what I did just now makes me locktown". It comes off as awareness of reads on yourself, and like, feigning confidence in RVS is just super easy to do. She did this after saying Implo is tryharding early.

It's a solid place for a wagon.

I need to reread the thread and try to figure out if I have any town reads based on anything said that early. I think Invis and skitter saw the logic in

not

seeing the logic in Andante's posts, but I'm not sure if there were any more, and I don't have a better yardstick for townie behavior thus far.

If you think Andante is a good wagon, why did you never vote her?

[Alianna]

I still haven't read up on the wagons, let me do that.

The wagons are wagons.

[Alianna]

Not interested in Andante wagon because I think she's town. The votes there are all meh for different reasons.
Drew wagon is somehow even more meh.
Cephrir and Invis are voting there because...why?

Woo wagon feels slightly better, at least on CSF's side. 250 raises some good points. Doc's 285 feels a little tinfoily though lol.

[Alianna]

Also, I forgot that Dunnstral was a player in this game.

Weirdly this is the first post that Alianna has made that maybe makes me think she's town :X

Not really something I think scum would be inclined to say with Dunn either as town or as scum.

Most of her posting recently makes me go "yeah, this is well and good but well scum definitely can make this post"

That last line is exactly how I feel about your posting.

[Invisibility]

The votes there are all meh for different reasons.

what are these reasons?

[Doctor Drew]

Not interested in Andante wagon because I think she's town. The votes there are all meh for different reasons.
Drew wagon is somehow even more meh.
Cephrir and Invis are voting there because...why?
Woo wagon feels slightly better, at least on CSF's side. 250 raises some good points. Doc's 285 feels a little tinfoily though lol.

I wanted my 285 as a bit of a talking point, I feel it can lead to many directions.

I feel I am on to something, but get if people(Alianna) think I am a bit nutty.....but can lead to something at least.

[Alianna]

The votes there are all meh for different reasons.

what are these reasons?

Yours is meh because I TR you (in general, not because of the vote) and I get where you're coming from, but I also don't think you're voting scum. So it kind of averages out.
Meh, maybe yours isn't

that

meh. Your posts on Andante do contribute somewhat to the vibe I had on you.
skitter's is meh because I don't find the stuff she's scumreading to be scummy.
Menalque's is meh because I don't know why he's voting Andante other than maybe sheeping skitter.

[sheepsaysmeep]

can u briefly talk abt drew too lol

do u townread him or does it just seem meh cuz out of nowhere

[sheepsaysmeep]

I actually rly like what he said abt woo

woo-drew wagons would be nice

[Alianna]

can u briefly talk abt drew too lol

do u townread him or does it just seem meh cuz out of nowhere

Mostly because it's out of nowhere.
I do still have him above the null line though because I still like that read from Aisa.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think woo posting is rife with more disconnects to accompany the one drew pointed out

I am not sure I understand why I am being wagoned, but hello o/ Lookin like wagons are forming and dissipating in the span of a handful of post

Well, you have two votes on you which is nominally a wagon. Do either of the votes on you make you think anything about the people voting you?

Nah, not really. They thought I was inactive and wanted to pressure. It's pretty NAI, scum could do it for the town vibes.

this just seems like a direct contradiction to me

I was also going to townread woo like, doubling down that he had no reads + nothing meaningful happened so far (last line of 247, 251). but then he talks about andante like a normal scum read. idk something feels fake

[Alianna]

You know what, sure. I see what you mean.

VOTE: GuerillaWoo

[Alianna]

Reads are approximately this. They're relative to a scale, not to each other, and I went the other way around the colour wheel because (a) it's prettier and (b) my scumleans are usually orange. You can ask about my reasoning, but the response is going to be either "idk vibes lol" or "I already talked about that one."

{

Alianna

} - I townread Alianna.
{

Andante

}
{

Aisa, Invisibility, Cat Scratch Fever

}
{

sheepsaysmeep

}
{

Doctor Drew, implosion

}
{

Dunnstral, Cephrir, Menalque, skitter30

} - the null line
{

GuerillaWoo

}

So we have a problem. One person is sus and there's 2-4 bad guys in the game.
Kind of makes me think there's scum in the quiet people.
Or my scumdar's just broken.
Still like the Woo wagon for now, just think the null tier is worth looking into.

[Alianna]

Reads are approximately this. They're relative to a scale, not to each other, and I went the other way around the colour wheel because (a) it's prettier and (b) my scumleans are usually orange. You can ask about my reasoning, but the response is going to be either "idk vibes lol" or "I already talked about that one."

{

Alianna

} - I townread Alianna.
{

Andante

}
{

Aisa, Invisibility, Cat Scratch Fever

}
{

sheepsaysmeep

}
{

Doctor Drew, implosion

}
{

Dunnstral, Cephrir, Menalque, skitter30

} - the null line
{

GuerillaWoo

}

So we have a problem. One person is sus and there's 2-4 bad guys in the game.
Kind of makes me think there's scum in the quiet people.
Or my scumdar's just broken.
Still like the Woo wagon for now, just think the null tier is worth looking into.

[Dunnstral]

Well I mean, kind of but not really. sheep is town for 40 being the kind of thing town would try to do early and that I think would be a less natural remark for scum to make. Invis is town specifically for wagoning off "gut pingss" being a slightly brazen thing for scum to do. I also kind of want to call the "don't eat wagons" banter townish just for idk, natural banter in thread on page 2.

I agree with the sheep reasoning. I disagree on the Invisibility reasoning - I don't think that is town indicative.

The fact that i had had the same thought abt vizzy

This is eyebrow raising for me.

If we have a serial killer, pretty sure it's implosion based on how he's playing, it reads to me as like "hey! tr me!!! look at my effort" and sk not knowing scum team? easy to do this

how do you distinguish this from town solving?

cause it's less than 100 posts in and implosion is trying like super hard, it just screams sk to me

Why can't town try hard?

andante seems a bit like an exaggerated version of andante right now but idk

I agree with this

[Dunnstral]

I think that the above reads list makes Alianna scum. I find that townreading all the most active players is a sign that the person making the list is anti-town.

[Dunnstral]

@mod

- are we getting a replacement for Dunn?

Generally when a player is gone for 48 hours the mod will send them a prod. After an additional 24 hours the mod will begin to look for a replacement.

So no, I don't think we will need a replacement in this scenario.

[Dunnstral]

Yeah your reads are sorted by post count. I don't really by that as being a genuine thought process, but rather a byproduct of playing to the crowd. I also don't like that you list your scum leans as "null" as I also think that is a scum move to avoid making enemies by only pushing 1 or 2 people at a time.

VOTE: Alianna

[Alianna]

@mod

- are we getting a replacement for Dunn?

Generally when a player is gone for 48 hours the mod will send them a prod. After an additional 24 hours the mod will begin to look for a replacement.

So no, I don't think we will need a replacement in this scenario.

Well, considering that you just didn't exist for the first 48 hours, I thought maybe you hadn't confirmed. My bad for assuming though.

[Dunnstral]

I actually somehow only noticed this game opened this morning and hadn't gotten around to it until tonight. Didn't realize it's been 48 hours yet.

[Dunnstral]

I like GuerillaWoo and would not want to see them go.

[Dunnstral]

So we have a problem. One person is sus and there's 2-4 bad guys in the game.

If you're town your problem is that you will townread everyone for light banter and giving the bare minimum of content. You are not being skeptical enough.