If I had the right frame to approach this it would be telling.
Like, it's tempting to think maybe he overreacted a bit to thinking he was on E-1? If I asked you "how many votes do you think you have on you?" you might go and count them before saying anything, and if he did he would have counted 4? So if he thought he had been hammered... why?
But you can also think of reasons he might act this way as town? Maybe he miscounted? Maybe he just assumed I had hammered him based on my wording? Etc etc
And I can't decide which side of the argument is stronger
(1) you’ve played with enchant before then — can you tell me why you think his reaction here to being wagoned is towny for him? How does it differ from his reaction to being wagoned when scum in your opinion?
(2) I’ve read and am digesting your Woo post, thanks for that. I’m now wondering where your head is at on dunn. You’re back to a TL on andy, do you think her case is convincing?
In post 830, Menalque wrote:
To those asking why I voted dunn — I’m holding off a little more on this until I hear from woo
Yeah I dunno what to tell ya. it's gonna be a little late, had some irl stuff. I'm reading through the pages rn and nothing feels like it changed for me. Enchant and Andante still my biggest scumreads. Invis and Skitter still my TRs. Rest various shades of null.
In post 830, Menalque wrote:
To those asking why I voted dunn — I’m holding off a little more on this until I hear from woo
Yeah I dunno what to tell ya. it's gonna be a little late, had some irl stuff. I'm reading through the pages rn and nothing feels like it changed for me. Enchant and Andante still my biggest scumreads. Invis and Skitter still my TRs. Rest various shades of null.
Thats cool, I’m the last person to complain about irl stuff delaying ability to play lol
Can you explain a bit more why enchant and moreso andy are your biggest SRs and why skitt and viz are your biggest townreads?
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 833, Menalque wrote:
Can you explain a bit more why enchant and moreso andy are your biggest SRs and why skitt and viz are your biggest townreads?
Enchant seems openly antagonistic to town cooperation and mostly operating on sarcasm, my read on the slot hasn't changed. Andante's whole entrance looked like pre-flailing, same thoughts as before, but the vague and unforced PR claim since hasn't improved her townie-ness. Newer posts look like more defensiveness, especially that one moment where she got offended that someone would ask another player's opinion of her? Like it's illegal to act like she's in the game and made read-able because she's claimed PR and self-declared obvtown?
Invis is both comfortable and skeptical, asking good questions and not backing down from positions simply over pressure. I agree with a lot of what Invis and Skitter have said so far, except Skitter's SR on CSF.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 800, implosion wrote:
I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 749, skitter30 wrote:
Ugh i really feel like andante is using the claim to avoid getting pushed,she feels super scummy to me
yeah I still find Andante exceedingly scummy
Dunn reminded me that I meant to ask about this.
I think there are 1-3 PRs in this setup that are possibly worth letting live and seeing if scum will deal with them, although if I found the slot scummy enough I would definitely push it to at least claim exactly what PR it is and possibly kill it off anyway. I'm back to townleaning Andante (see implosion's read on her for reasoning) so I don't really care. Anyway.
I don't think it really matters whether she's scummy or not, if you think "PR" is a good enough reason to let her live then she just lives at least until tomorrow and that's that. I'd be curious to hear from both of you what your stance on that is; is the PR claim a good enough reason to let her live until tomorrow?
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 800, implosion wrote:
I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
Menalque's i-have-the-solve-just-wait-and-see thing (679) is definitely peculiar. It's kind of coloring the rest of his play for me. If he's town it seems like he's keeping cards close to his chest and playing on the periphery, which is hard for me to read because I'm really not sure why he'd be acting that way as scum but I also find it hard to imagine why he'd feel the need to play this game in this way as town. I just find it peculiar. Maybe it does just make sense as scum, idk. The reason it kind of doesn't jive as just scummy is that I'm not sure why he wouldn't just be explaining things as scum, like the obvious scum motivation for being coy on the periphery is so that you can change your reads on the fly if needed but I don't really think this is a game state where scum would feel the need to do anything like that.
In post 800, implosion wrote:
I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 800, implosion wrote:
I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place