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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 8:09 am

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why do you think it's telling?
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 8:12 am

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like what makes you think you can mine a deeper meaning from it
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 8:16 am

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If I had the right frame to approach this it would be telling.

Like, it's tempting to think maybe he overreacted a bit to thinking he was on E-1? If I asked you "how many votes do you think you have on you?" you might go and count them before saying anything, and if he did he would have counted 4? So if he thought he had been hammered... why?

But you can also think of reasons he might act this way as town? Maybe he miscounted? Maybe he just assumed I had hammered him based on my wording? Etc etc

And I can't decide which side of the argument is stronger

PS I have to go now
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 8:18 am

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In post 826, Invisibility wrote: like what makes you think you can mine a deeper meaning from it
Beyond what I just said, nothing. It's just the fact that
initially
I thought what he did was scum-indicative, but on further reflection I got more confused
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 8:36 am

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ok sure
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:11 am

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To those asking why I voted dunn — I’m holding off a little more on this until I hear from woo

I will get to it in due course
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:15 am

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Aisa, I have more questions for you —

(1) you’ve played with enchant before then — can you tell me why you think his reaction here to being wagoned is towny for him? How does it differ from his reaction to being wagoned when scum in your opinion?

(2) I’ve read and am digesting your Woo post, thanks for that. I’m now wondering where your head is at on dunn. You’re back to a TL on andy, do you think her case is convincing?
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 9:58 am

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In post 830, Menalque wrote: To those asking why I voted dunn — I’m holding off a little more on this until I hear from woo
Yeah I dunno what to tell ya. it's gonna be a little late, had some irl stuff. I'm reading through the pages rn and nothing feels like it changed for me. Enchant and Andante still my biggest scumreads. Invis and Skitter still my TRs. Rest various shades of null.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 832, GuerillaWoo wrote:
In post 830, Menalque wrote: To those asking why I voted dunn — I’m holding off a little more on this until I hear from woo
Yeah I dunno what to tell ya. it's gonna be a little late, had some irl stuff. I'm reading through the pages rn and nothing feels like it changed for me. Enchant and Andante still my biggest scumreads. Invis and Skitter still my TRs. Rest various shades of null.
Thats cool, I’m the last person to complain about irl stuff delaying ability to play lol

Can you explain a bit more why enchant and moreso andy are your biggest SRs and why skitt and viz are your biggest townreads?
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 759, Andante wrote: Unless you think dunn is town, then I'd love to hear it
I want to hear more abt why enchant is town
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:40 am

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In post 776, Andante wrote: obviously I think that? what part of what I've said makes you think I don't genuinely believe it?
... this isnt how this works
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 833, Menalque wrote: Can you explain a bit more why enchant and moreso andy are your biggest SRs and why skitt and viz are your biggest townreads?
Enchant seems openly antagonistic to town cooperation and mostly operating on sarcasm, my read on the slot hasn't changed. Andante's whole entrance looked like pre-flailing, same thoughts as before, but the vague and unforced PR claim since hasn't improved her townie-ness. Newer posts look like more defensiveness, especially that one moment where she got offended that someone would ask another player's opinion of her? Like it's illegal to act like she's in the game and made read-able because she's claimed PR and self-declared obvtown?

Invis is both comfortable and skeptical, asking good questions and not backing down from positions simply over pressure. I agree with a lot of what Invis and Skitter have said so far, except Skitter's SR on CSF.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 792, Menalque wrote: VOTE: dunn

@aisa, have you played much with enchant?
Also looks partner-y
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 800, implosion wrote: I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:44 am

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In post 816, Aisa wrote:
In post 749, skitter30 wrote: Ugh i really feel like andante is using the claim to avoid getting pushed,she feels super scummy to me
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In post 749, skitter30 wrote: Ugh i really feel like andante is using the claim to avoid getting pushed,she feels super scummy to me
yeah I still find Andante exceedingly scummy
Dunn reminded me that I meant to ask about this.

I think there are 1-3 PRs in this setup that are possibly worth letting live and seeing if scum will deal with them, although if I found the slot scummy enough I would definitely push it to at least claim exactly what PR it is and possibly kill it off anyway. I'm back to townleaning Andante (see implosion's read on her for reasoning) so I don't really care. Anyway.

I don't think it really matters whether she's scummy or not, if you think "PR" is a good enough reason to let her live then she just lives at least until tomorrow and that's that. I'd be curious to hear from both of you what your stance on that is; is the PR claim a good enough reason to let her live until tomorrow?
Yes, that's explicitly why i'm not voting her rn
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:46 am

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I think we should just be flipping enchant here
Mena's trajectory today is ???? bordering on scummy
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 10:52 am

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In post 837, skitter30 wrote:
In post 792, Menalque wrote: VOTE: dunn

@aisa, have you played much with enchant?
Also looks partner-y
partnery with whom?
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:01 am

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Enchant
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:04 am

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In post 838, skitter30 wrote:
In post 800, implosion wrote: I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place


no, she brought it up
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:04 am

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Step 1: Ask to do something
Step 2: Get angry because voting implosion is forbidden by sacred law
Step 3: Ah yes it's openwolf don't bother.


Andante actually nailed it.
So when i get my win, you are kinda boring.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:05 am

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If you think i am mafia and can't just ask teammates who i should/shouldn't vote, shame on you.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:08 am

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Menalque's i-have-the-solve-just-wait-and-see thing () is definitely peculiar. It's kind of coloring the rest of his play for me. If he's town it seems like he's keeping cards close to his chest and playing on the periphery, which is hard for me to read because I'm really not sure why he'd be acting that way as scum but I also find it hard to imagine why he'd feel the need to play this game in this way as town. I just find it peculiar. Maybe it does just make sense as scum, idk. The reason it kind of doesn't jive as just scummy is that I'm not sure why he wouldn't just be explaining things as scum, like the obvious scum motivation for being coy on the periphery is so that you can change your reads on the fly if needed but I don't really think this is a game state where scum would feel the need to do anything like that.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:10 am

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In post 843, implosion wrote:
In post 838, skitter30 wrote:
In post 800, implosion wrote: I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
no, she brought it up
Oh fair i only skimmed that one
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 11:12 am

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And yeah i'm not outright calling mena scum for this b/c jt's weird and calls attention to himself and he *knows this* but like idk what he's doing
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed May 31, 2023 4:12 pm

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In post 847, skitter30 wrote:
In post 843, implosion wrote:
In post 838, skitter30 wrote:
In post 800, implosion wrote: I really do hope there's no SK and Andante has to lose face over this implosion-is-the-SK bullshit because it's actually irking me.
She hasnt brought this up in a while so this comment feela fairly out of place
no, she brought it up
Oh fair i only skimmed that one
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