Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

[Garlic Bread]

You went and looked at my appeal to you to try to move past this and you took out of this the worst possible interpretation, I wipe my hands and move on.

[Garlic Bread]

WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

mind meld here; i think that 3 minutes of meta diving is likely just gonna lead to surface level observations that aren't very AI.

ali is a fairly polarized player so it actually will find AI stuff, alisae will corroborate this

[Thestatusquo]

you on the other hand came into this game scum reading my slot for no reason, then when it became clear no one else was going to jump on you jumped ship and started trying to pocket me instead but it hasn't worked because there's no internal consistency for your either of these poles of your reads/

You throw in stuff like "I am really only placing you low out of respect for your game" which uhhh lmao I think we can all see thats a lie from reading the last few pages of this game. You don't respect me at all.

You keep referring to my "meta" and my "positioning" but theres no actual reasoning behind your reads, just buzzwords.

It's fakesauce.

Pedit: Scum reading someone is not necessarily a tunnel and describing it as such is a misrep. I believe you are a scum, I am clearly also considering other players in this game. That is definitionally not a tunnel.

[Thestatusquo]

WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

mind meld here; i think that 3 minutes of meta diving is likely just gonna lead to surface level observations that aren't very AI.

ali is a fairly polarized player so it actually will find AI stuff, alisae will corroborate this

All things you already knew when you claim to have gone and meta read them.

Which you didn't do.

[Skygazer]

Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

[sheepsaysmeep]

Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

why

[Garlic Bread]

WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

mind meld here; i think that 3 minutes of meta diving is likely just gonna lead to surface level observations that aren't very AI.

ali is a fairly polarized player so it actually will find AI stuff, alisae will corroborate this

All things you already knew when you claim to have gone and meta read them.

Which you didn't do.

I cited which games I read what are you on about shea?

[Garlic Bread]

you on the other hand came into this game scum reading my slot for no reason, then when it became clear no one else was going to jump on you jumped ship and started trying to pocket me instead but it hasn't worked because there's no internal consistency for your either of these poles of your reads/

You throw in stuff like "I am really only placing you low out of respect for your game" which uhhh lmao I think we can all see thats a lie from reading the last few pages of this game. You don't respect me at all.

You keep referring to my "meta" and my "positioning" but theres no actual reasoning behind your reads, just buzzwords.

It's fakesauce.

Pedit: Scum reading someone is not necessarily a tunnel and describing it as such is a misrep. I believe you are a scum, I am clearly also considering other players in this game. That is definitionally not a tunnel.

I am tunneling sheep. I do not consider tunnel a dirty word. I hope that helps.

[Skygazer]

Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

why

They're engaging in real time in a way that seems uninhibited. Chat mafia-esque read.

[Garlic Bread]

Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

I agree, which is what makes it all the more frustrating from my POV

[sheepsaysmeep]

skygazer do u have other reads on the game

[Skygazer]

skygazer do u have other reads on the game

I've been sharing most of my thoughts as they happen

[xofelf]

xofelf - just scummed vs him, and the trends are the same, the paranoia and link to my scumgame are reasonable takes from a town, although as I did correctly guess while scumming its a style that i find hard to locktown. i will just assume he cannot endgame as scum.

Surprised I have to clear this up for you specifically, but it's they.

It's a fair assumption to make given the last game I had where I randed scum that actually finished was so long ago I don't even remember the name of the game, and I replaced in, so *I* don't even know if I can endgame as scum. Haven't had the privilege to try iirc.

[xofelf]

xofelf - just scummed vs him, and the trends are the same, the paranoia and link to my scumgame are reasonable takes from a town, although as I did correctly guess while scumming its a style that i find hard to locktown. i will just assume he cannot endgame as scum.

Surprised I have to clear this up for you specifically, but it's they.

It's a fair assumption to make given the last game I had where I randed scum that actually finished was so long ago I don't even remember the name of the game, and I replaced in, so *I* don't even know if I can endgame as scum. Haven't had the privilege to try iirc.

[xofelf]

Well fine, double post.

[Garlic Bread]

xofelf - just scummed vs him, and the trends are the same, the paranoia and link to my scumgame are reasonable takes from a town, although as I did correctly guess while scumming its a style that i find hard to locktown. i will just assume he cannot endgame as scum.

Surprised I have to clear this up for you specifically, but it's they.

It's a fair assumption to make given the last game I had where I randed scum that actually finished was so long ago I don't even remember the name of the game, and I replaced in, so *I* don't even know if I can endgame as scum. Haven't had the privilege to try iirc.

I'm sorry I mixed you and ceph up again in my head, I won't do it again

[xofelf]

I wondered if that's what happened again xD You good <3

[Skygazer]

I think that has high potential to be a perspective slip on garlic's part fwiw. I'm viewing hellbooks as townier than I was, most of my concerns about her are stupid in hindsight and i'm not seeing much of an agenda. xof's posting is better and i probably should finally unvote them huh. i think my scum pool right now is ali/garlic/baltar/sheep (unordered) but my thoughts are still very much in flux

[Skygazer]

i don't actually know how to read tris either tbh could someone fill me in

[Garlic Bread]

you on the other hand came into this game scum reading my slot for no reason, then when it became clear no one else was going to jump on you jumped ship and started trying to pocket me instead but it hasn't worked because there's no internal consistency for your either of these poles of your reads/

You throw in stuff like "I am really only placing you low out of respect for your game" which uhhh lmao I think we can all see thats a lie from reading the last few pages of this game. You don't respect me at all.

You keep referring to my "meta" and my "positioning" but theres no actual reasoning behind your reads, just buzzwords.

It's fakesauce.

Pedit: Scum reading someone is not necessarily a tunnel and describing it as such is a misrep. I believe you are a scum, I am clearly also considering other players in this game. That is definitionally not a tunnel.

I found your entrance scummy, as evidenced by this post:

Burnt are Your posts
Thirty One is the Worst

VOTE: TheStatusQuo

in fact I thought they were just fluff posting and I believed that would be scummy for a player like Shea who seems leadery, as I had never played with him before and thus had no real baseline for that:

I think my tone is town.

I Think you Need to Get in The Kitchen and Stop Playing with The Flour

and then this one shows I actually went and looked at stuff that removed plausibility for that avenue:

In The Competitive Team Based Format The Tiger was Very Into Looking As If he Was Working while Actually Slacking Off

While A View into A game As a Good One he Makes a Similar Remark That I initially Felt was A Preemptive Excuse For Different Play For Being a Mafia Roll

Also I'm going to be low effort until tomorrow probably. Lots of football to watch today and a post count to stay under, but I'll be my usual spammy self then.

Try not to give me 30 pages to read in the meanwhile.

I work with plausibilities often and Shea, you can attack me back all you want, but you need to chill with the anti-town assumptive behavior, you did similar with VP earlier this game.

And I have respect for your scumgame particularly, I never mentioned your towngame. I had assumed you were a bit of, well, what you're doing here as town.

If you want to keep pushing me out of spite, sure, but I have a 3 day weekend after being at the ER last night, I have all the time in the world to disprove accusations on top of finding sheep's partner, I find the way people approach this will be informative.

[Garlic Bread]

I think that has high potential to be a perspective slip on garlic's part fwiw. I'm viewing hellbooks as townier than I was, most of my concerns about her are stupid in hindsight and i'm not seeing much of an agenda. xof's posting is better and i probably should finally unvote them huh. i think my scum pool right now is ali/garlic/baltar/sheep (unordered) but my thoughts are still very much in flux

when have you ever seen a "perspective slip" actually work?

When I townread someone - I will talk with the assumption they flip town. I do not play wishy washy words like "if" or "assuming you're town" type deal.

[Skygazer]

the more i think about it the more i'm just like really lost here!!

[Garlic Bread]

the more i think about it the more i'm just like really lost here!!

ok so walk me through your read on me, like lets take the perspective slip you think is an indicator that I am mafia, do you see anything on top of that?

I also share the feeling of being lost in terms of myself being unable to find a pairing for sheep confidently.

Would it help if I found a towngame where I did a similar thing?

[xofelf]

I think I might be a bit biased against your playstyle, GB. It keeps hitting these places that are just mean at best. Like, there's an energy to your posts, especially the last couple pages that I almost don't care what your alignment is, I'd yeet you on principle to make the game feel less shitty. Like, when you aren't being argumentative and, only adjective I have for it, entitled, your posts are fairly decent and it makes me want to read your posts and engage with you. But you do so much of the rest that you kill the fun and make your posts fairly distasteful to read, even if any of your posts have merit and weight to them. Is there something you could do perhaps to make the experience of playing with you again actually a good thing? Like you were cool and chill in the neighbourhood, that user I want to play with. This current energy I don't want as it's such an energy sap and spoon killer.

[Garlic Bread]

I think I might be a bit biased against your playstyle, GB. It keeps hitting these places that are just mean at best. Like, there's an energy to your posts, especially the last couple pages that I almost don't care what your alignment is, I'd yeet you on principle to make the game feel less shitty. Like, when you aren't being argumentative and, only adjective I have for it, entitled, your posts are fairly decent and it makes me want to read your posts and engage with you. But you do so much of the rest that you kill the fun and make your posts fairly distasteful to read, even if any of your posts have merit and weight to them. Is there something you could do perhaps to make the experience of playing with you again actually a good thing? Like you were cool and chill in the neighbourhood, that user I want to play with. This current energy I don't want as it's such an energy sap and spoon killer.

keep me away from shea