Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

[hellbooks]

the absolute ideal scenario is d1 sheep flips scum, d2 me

[Garlic Bread]

final answer

my poe-y people started being villagery like xof/sky so im probably wrong on a townread.

sticking with one in alisae/garlic.

i think garlic has proven themself more able to justify their read on me so some of the reasons I called them wolf are invalid, even tho some of their points are shit lol but whatever. like for the record I dont actually have a reverse volume tell, I just have a straightforward volume tell lol, I post more as villa and am more cuatious as wolf

I would go with TSQ is just town. the one only thing his current way of playing does efficiently/effectiveyl is hardddd pocket me. but as wolf he doesnt need to hard pocket me this game lmfao. I feel like sometimes v/v we vibe like when I first subbed into business game

I could be wrong on baltar, I could be wrong on sky they sometimes feel off

baltar/alisae isnt w/w because when baltar was choosing to go "we need to consolidate on someone" no matter who he picked to case he wouldve been pretty effective and I think a few people wouldve been "ok cool let's just do it" because the game was so barren and dead so I dont think he would pick a wolf partner

xof is villagery but not for good solid reasons like not for content-read reasons lool just gut

tris is pretty pure

I have no clue how to read user hellbooks. I think theyre a bit textbook wolfy but those things could be NAI how-they-play things for this user

lets go into more detail again with some questions on wtf sheep is just spewing

"my poe-y people started being villagery like xof/sky so im probably wrong on a townread." -> what posts could even lead sheep to suddenly make a statement like this?

"sticking with one in alisae/garlic. " -> sheep was not even scumreading me before this point. "Garlic Bread - I think this is town. I think he is playing in a way that is just he genuinely believes his reads; no other reason to play like this. if mafia no reason to repeat the same things many times and press people this way; breaking the gimmick in some conversations feels genuine " - 815

and combined with 1061 sheep has me in their town pile and even makes a justification for why im town despite thinking that pushes on him are scum driven (?)

Like look deeper into this slot, you see a lot of the stuff they say is complete BS and pretty openly fake when you start to trace the lines of progression.

I'm not good at casing slots like these, usually it's seen pretty easily by the people around me when I find a scum like this, but look at the illogical nature of their read progression. Yes, townies *can* be illogical, but this is illogical in a way that implies faked reads.

[Alisae]

Anyway the best way to think of the elimination is it's a public vig shot that everyone has to agree on and I think if there is one person in the game I would want to vig it's probably sheep
idunno the play has just been odd all game so ig I need to see it flip town to maybe start making sense of things

just feels so in the moment townie right now but if you say this is what sheep is good at faking ya I'll just believe you because you're probably way better at that kind of stuff than I am

[Alisae]

well not everyone has to agree on it but ya know

[Garlic Bread]

Anyway the best way to think of the elimination is it's a public vig shot that everyone has to agree on and I think if there is one person in the game I would want to vig it's probably sheep
idunno the play has just been odd all game so ig I need to see it flip town to maybe start making sense of things

just feels so in the moment townie right now but if you say this is what sheep is good at faking ya I'll just believe you because you're probably way better at that kind of stuff than I am

i kinda wanna compare these minor errors to like the way you started pushing the Staeg thing in our game, where once you start looking at pieces like that it becomes really obvious that your play was fake there, and the mith push starts to gain context etc.

[Alisae]

Ya I was spitting in LLD's face the entire d1 by voting top 2 because if I could kill top 2 it's really good and I should have just told Datisi to kill it.

[Alisae]

lld was like no don't vote the top 4

I wanna vote the top 2
no don't do it
i wanna do it

[Alisae]

there's a wolf in the 6s

[hellbooks]

My feeling is that baltar and sheep are of different alignment, the "i think this guy is town but i guess i'll vote him anyway, for the sake of the information" makes me think that way

[Alisae]

My feeling is that baltar and sheep are of different alignment, the "i think this guy is town but i guess i'll vote him anyway, for the sake of the information" makes me think that way

okay how do you feel about voting sheep

[hellbooks]

i guess i think hes town but id vote him anyway for the sake of the information

[Alisae]

ok vote sheep

[hellbooks]

after 3 minutes of furious self reflection it turns out that i just really dont want to do that right now

[Alisae]

why don't you want to do that

[hellbooks]

ok after typing out a bunch of bullcrap and deleting it id just like to settle on "can you just ask me tomorrow about it" im procrastinating rn

[Alisae]

no we are running out of time you have to answer now

[hellbooks]

we have 2 days i thought?

[Alisae]

We want to start being proactive now so that we're not panicking trying to scramble for deadline

[hellbooks]

im wondering if i'm just fundamentally uncomfortable with being on wagons at a baseline. i think you could probably go back and track the amount of times im on a limming wagon and it would turn out that its below average. that would probably be a bad trait to have as a mafia player. ok how about as soon as someone other than you or garlic or baltar tells me to vote sheep i will do it

[hellbooks]

now im getting the sense that im just causing more trouble for everyone
ugh but it would look so weird and bad if i just join right now after being so obstinate and annoying about it
like what if sheep flips town and everyone is like did you see the nasty way hellbooks waffled about it before voting

[Alisae]

I think you are looking for an excuse not to vote sheep when it is +town to vote sheep and end day

I think sheep is our best chance of eliminating the mafia and I think anything else is unlikely to happen. I won't be voting w/ you unless you voted shea. No one is going to vote tris skygazer xof. I don't think I want to do Balter > Sheep.

[hellbooks]

man page 51 is really just the worst

[Alisae]

like what if sheep flips town and everyone is like did you see the nasty way hellbooks waffled about it before voting

if sheep flips town we can get our heads out of our asses and look elsewhere

[hellbooks]

Do you still think sheep is town from the posting that made you paranoid
Just out of curiosity

[Alisae]

I think Garlic Bread saying that Sheep doesn't have reads is an accurate observation if you look at the reads and votes that sheep has put out when they put them out