Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Bingle]

unless i missed something - why are you offering reads on the people on your wagon? what is this?

Why would I not analyze the biggest wagon as literally the only person who knows for sure it's on town? What? Did you get into SG's acid, osuka?

that post is just sort of shit and it makes no sense to me. if your analysis of the biggest wagon on none other than yourself is “everyone’s town, they have good reasons, fucking rainbows and sunshine”, isn’t that just one step short of a scumclaim? you somehow simultaneously made yourself look worse, the wagon look better, and did all of that while inexplicably adding zero meaningful content other than the fact that you clearly don’t have good (or real?) reads on any of the people voting you

This is the post in question.

You say that my post sucks because... I think the four people on my wagon have shown reasonable progressions for being on my wagon.

You characterize that as "everyone's town, they have good reasons, fucking rainbows and sunshine" which is itself a gross misrep of y'know, actual reasons why none of the votes are particularly scummy to me. Then you say that thinking the votes on me aren't from scum is "one step short of a scumclaim.

What part of that isn't an implication that people scumreading you can't be town?

[Bingle]

I feel like I've wandered into a bizarre land where everyone speaks a language just slightly different from English. I'd be fine with Drew, cook/sheep, SkyG, Meuh lims atp. I still think ausuka/meuh makes a lot of sense as a pair, and I'm pretty baffled by any townread on either of them. I'm vaguely feeling better about Merlyn from engagement with her. Umlaut feels town in the exact same way he did as scum in Coalition, in that he's being reasonable and actually makes sense, which makes me paranoid. Not a D1, but don't let him near XLO if I'm the lim today.

[Radical Rat]

If we hit scum, it's going to be relatively low info anyway. We can look a bit closer for signals, but that's contingent on them being correctly received and responded to. Beyond that, the only direct associative we could draw will flip at the same time.

[Bingle]

Rat, give it to me straight. Am I the one not making any sense?

[Merlyn]

I feel like I've wandered into a bizarre land where everyone speaks a language just slightly different from English. I'd be fine with Drew, cook/sheep, SkyG, Meuh lims atp. I still think ausuka/meuh makes a lot of sense as a pair, and I'm pretty baffled by any townread on either of them. I'm vaguely feeling better about Merlyn from engagement with her. Umlaut feels town in the exact same way he did as scum in Coalition, in that he's being reasonable and actually makes sense, which makes me paranoid. Not a D1, but don't let him near XLO if I'm the lim today.

Can I ask you to go look at why I townread Ausuka and say why it's baffling, though?

[Radical Rat]

Rat, give it to me straight. Am I the one not making any sense?

I think you make sense, but I also think Ausuka and Meuh are Town.

It's mostly just the vibes, like. I know it means less in this setup, but the interactions feel natural and not manufactured, even though you are correct that the way they're defending each other is weird.

[Radical Rat]

It's why I haven't really been arguing against it, I don't have an argument why you're wrong, I just feel it.

[Bingle]

Sure, Merlyn.

I know my posts are good but reading them four times seems a bit excessive

VOTE: towel

I am a big believer in omgus theory

VOTE: towel

I am a big believer in omgus theory

How serious are you here?

I think the whole "i read it four times" thing is pretty performative, and also like 'the joke is actually posturing to seem reasonable' thing seems p stretchy

she responds to somebody sheeping her as "playing with fire" when the title of this game characterizes the mafia as fire.

Hmm ok

VOTE: skygazer

I think this qualifies as a push.

I think this is only loosely a push. You've captured all of it, from the brief jokey pushback against an RVS vote, to the actual OMGUS against said RVS vote an hour later with no intervening towwl posts but with specifically you asking what pings towwl about Ausuka, to the post vote justification about the OMGUS that is "I think I'm a likely scumtarget" when previously she implied that with "I'm a big believer in OMGUS theory". Ausuka then dropped the case over basically nothing, showing a complete lack of follow through on that push in general in order to naked vote someone who had barely posted.

Sorry but glaceon is better

Agreed, Ausuka can be town

This is a townread on a completely NAI joke post. Like, favorite pokemon banter is potentially the least alignment indicative thing in any game thread, ever.

VOTE: Meuh

I’ll probably do a readslist tonight.

Pedit: I think both Meuh and merlyn are defending ausuka much more strongly than anything ausuka’s done merits, FWIW.

Yeah but, but it's not really whether Ausuka deserves to be defended because she's posting so town, it's that the arguments being made against her are full of holes.

And I still don't get how either "Ausuka made this post that pings me" or "Ausuka hasn't been particularly towny" were full of holes.


That is every post you give a reason for your townread of Ausuka. What about that isn't weird?

[Bingle]

I omitted the reads wall, mostly because the spoiler stopped the cntrl f but also because the explanation there made sense to me.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok, you know what?

Y'all are some dumbasses who want to lim Bingle.

If Osuka isn't gonna be the giant asshole, well then buckle up dickheads cause asshole Drew is here to fuck shit up, drink your booze, and bang your wife.

How are they more scummy then Ausuka? Or Osuka?

Sucka's gotta go.

[Bingle]

bang your wife

Jokes on you: she's imaginary, metal, and riddled with communicable diseases.

[Doctor Drew]

bang your wife

Jokes on you: she's imaginary, metal, and riddled with communicable diseases.

Well lucky for both of us, everyone else was the subject of my fury.

[Bingle]

My alchohol is decent though. I've got a bottle of Balvenie Doublewood on my desk right now. (#Scotchclub)

[Doctor Drew]

My alchohol is decent though. I've got a bottle of Balvenie Doublewood on my desk right now. (#Scotchclub)

Well then seems like we have a solid Whiskey Pocket between you, Umlaut, and myself(Merlyn is still out).

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

[Bingle]

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

Unironically, Lagavulin tastes like the flavor of tar fumes when you work with tar in an enclosed space for too long.

[Doctor Drew]

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

Unironically, Lagavulin tastes like the flavor of tar fumes when you work with tar in an enclosed space for too long.

No that is Ardbeg.

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

[Bingle]

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

I'm sorry, were you busy being wrong?

[Radical Rat]

We are reaching the point where we need to start making decisions.

I'd really rather not settle on Bingle, so if you could either sell me on Cook/sheep being Town or join me here, that would be greatly appreciated.

[Doctor Drew]

We are reaching the point where we need to start making decisions.

I'd really rather not settle on Bingle, so if you could either sell me on Cook/sheep being Town or join me here, that would be greatly appreciated.

I still think one of the Suka's gotta go.

[Doctor Drew]

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

I'm sorry, were you busy being wrong?

Never actually had any of the Japanese single malts.

[Meuh]

GeorgeBailey demands everyone submit one player that they would never elim day one.

GeorgeBailey will use this information for research purposes.
Don't need an explanation.

Just need a name.

I submit the name Meuh.
You must submit a name before day ends or face a stern looking GerogeBailey

Joke's on you I'm starting a counter townwagon on you

[Merlyn]

I omitted the reads wall, mostly because the spoiler stopped the cntrl f but also because the explanation there made sense to me.

but that's not fair, dammit, you can't omit the one I actually put thought into!

The rest-
You are right about the push, I recognize it was a small thing. It was also pretty early in the game though so I'm kind of good with noting small things early.

Let it be known that I do not actually town or scumread anyone on their pokemon preference, I just like glaceon. I judge them for it, but not townread or scumread them.

The holes thing is going to be longer to write about but I will tomorrow.

[Merlyn]

My alchohol is decent though. I've got a bottle of Balvenie Doublewood on my desk right now. (#Scotchclub)

Well then seems like we have a solid Whiskey Pocket between you, Umlaut, and myself(Merlyn is still out).

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

When I form my own Tequila pocket you can't join (I KNOW tequila can't be whiskey too)

[Radical Rat]

Where's the pocket for squares who don't drink?

[Merlyn]

Probably with GeorgeBailey