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[Morning Tweet]

I get the rationale behind "let curious have a chance to get read" but its easier to read try n read Roden rather than hop[e curious is town D2

UNVOTE:

[Roden]

Roden at this point if you don't start to interrogate the other people on, or those who were on who want to be on you, I'll push you through in 16 hours. Karma has a golden meta future potential shield from klick and oopsie and like monke and others, so.

It's that or you push for Karma or no elimination.

I think I'd genuinely rather be voted out than us nolim

Yeah what Daisy said, I'd rather be voted out for the info that gives than do No Elim. I don't want to vote out Karma either. And I don't think we gain anything from interrogating anyone voting me or wanting to vote me because their motive for that are obvious (everyone got told to vote me and there hasn't been momentum on other wagons)

VOTE: Nips

If you want to vote out a slot that isn't trying, then we should vote here.

[Morning Tweet]

This feels like we lose no matter what we do? A subpar maybe VT maybe goon elim that no one is happy abt really, but calling for more claims is riskuy...

Emperor has been gone which isnt necessarily scummy but is :/

@Emperor

its 24 hours to deadline are you still hot about Roden wagon or what

There's a lot of shooting in the dark that is going to be happening in this game since we have approx 1 day left and I feel like gera/Greeting/Emperor/curious have no meaningful reads on them from anyone because Jus tthe way this one shook out

Personally I don't see why we're eliminating Roden over Curious I dooont think Roden's read on HEM was a death blow or really that alarming at the end. I'm at this point of the opinion that Roden wasn't inflating his ability to read HEM for nefarious purposes. At worst, he over represented how much of an impact his own scumread on HEM had but I mean he was linking meta to back up reading HEM and he didnt reeeallly make thatm uch of a claim with it

Plus Roden reversing to HEM!town which, I think, is correct. That's my stance as well, tvt

Roden and HEM are still talking about that inital proving the townread on HEM, rather than anything else, that seems so unlikely to be useful... The self vote from Roden was sus but I'm somewhat willing to believe its because every single player agreed to vote Roden around that page

Curious has probably roughly regular random odds of being scum. That's all the best I have pictured! Sorry!

[Morning Tweet]

People i want to keep around
Daisy
Karma
Klick
Gera
Monkey

Everyone else I need to look into.

Vibes from daisy still feels townie just like the previous game.
Karma-once they get going we’ll be able to tell if they’re town for sure but I’m betting on them being town

Klick- from the most recent posts getting more town vibes from them
Gera- I think I already said why I got town vibes from them
Monkey- proactive, doesn’t seem to have a negative agenda. Will iso eventually to be safe


Pedit: here ya go

I might be down for a Roden farewell party

what prompted 751?

[Morning Tweet]

Klick how do you have Elements and curious as your top tier town

[Morning Tweet]

Someone other than Monkey describe what is making Roden your top choice

[clidd]

Reading soon.

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Curious

[geraintm]

And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers

Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game

Interesting comparison seeing how last game went down

what, we outed two power roles, had another townie lying? it was awful, we just got really lucky with the Vig and Scum not shooting right. That was a bad day 1 for town

[OopsieDaisy]

Someone other than Monkey describe what is making Roden your top choice

Roden has miles more discussion/meaningful reading around him over Curious. Day 1 I want to make sure our flip gives us good info, thus I want Roden out over Curious. The odds of hitting scum aren't high no matter where we vote and I feel a Roden vote progresses the game more than any other of the options floated.

[OopsieDaisy]

If I got free reign I'd go for Greeting or Furtive, because I scumread them more and I still feel like they give us some info, but I'm aware I don't have that free reign so I'm looking for the best option available.

[clidd]

Ok, I've read enough.

VOTE: Roden

This argument isn't going to settle anytime soon and we need to move on.

Karma has promised he will deliver something meaningful, so I'll give him a shot.

[OopsieDaisy]

I just don't see what's scummy about Karma whatsoever outside of inactivity, which pings multiple players in this game and those players don't have the excuse of a V/LA for half the day.

pedit: swag

[curiouskarmadog]

As I said, these posts are mostly for me. Think of them as my personal notes. If I have an open question to someone, Ill bold. This/these post might be long, so if you want me to address something in particular from this post, cut and paste. Note, I like to watch votes...I like to read the motivations behinds votes and unvotes. it is where I catch scum....so thats why you see me focus on it.

PAGE 6, POST 128, Klick has Ele and me as town.
6, 130 Klick votes OD
6, 132 Ele votes OD
6, 137 Fur votes Tak (I don’t even recall who that is)
6, 139 HEM is asking about 2302, who cares this is a different game. You got eyes, you read it.
6, 146 HEM asks Klick why Ele is obvtown, NOW that is a good question.

Page 7 vote
Elements (4): curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting, humaneatingmonkey
OopsieDaisy (2): Klick, Elements
geraintm (2): Morning Tweet, Takutai
Morning Tweet (1): OopsieDaisy
curiouskarmadog (1): Roden
Takutai (1): furtiveglance

Not voting (2): Emperor flippyNips, clidd

7, 152, OD sees the vote count and moves it to Ger (no reason)
7, 156-159, Clidd, like OD, fence on Ele, says Klicks votes are erratic (umm its early game), not a fan of HEH
7, 161 CLIDD USED THE TERM “TO BE HONEST”, personal scum indicator. Joins Ger wagon
7, 166 Clidd USED THE TERM “I CONFESS”…tee hee, strike 2
8, 182 HEH votes OD, because she move vote from Tweet (but there were no other votes there?) What kind of pressure do you think should have been there? (possible bold for follow up)
8, 188 MT votes Ele, reasons not great,, undecided on OD (did someone ask?)
8-9, HEH seems like he is scum hunting
9, 205, Roden (who is that?) thinks OD is self aware
9, 206, HEH feels being self aware is scummy. LOL, I disagree. Im very self aware. Wonder if that makes me scummy too?
9, 213 Ger says he “is the worst player to ever to wagon”….(YAWN), why post this?

10, 227 OD votes Tweet? Don’t like the reasoning.
10, 229, HEH is going to give her space?!?! What?!? that’s a weird statement
10, 230 OD “ILL BE HONEST”
10 (the exchange between OD is HEM is weird, not sure why)
10, 234 Ger has little interest in lim OD
11- MT suspicious of OD’s revote. (but doesn’t vote her)
11, 265 Fur votes Ger (no reason)
11, 267 HEM votes Tak (no reason) I guess tired of OD vote?
11, 268, OD thought my quietness was concerning (why is that, I literally posted 10 hours earlier same day).
11, 271 OD “ILL BE HONEST”
12, 281, 20 minutes later, OD votes me ( guess that concern was just TOO much)
12, 282, Immediately after Clidd votes me…

(jokes about timing). Were you concerned about how that vote looked is that why you edited? Wonder if HEM will think if that is self aware.

12, 287, Ele joins my wagon…lol.
12, 291, Roden confirm vote on me.
12, 295, HEM unvotes.
13- Greeting is in the game? States Clidd town, HEM town, No town read on OD
13, 311, Greeting questions Tweet about (255), good question.
13, 317, Tak unvotes, no revotes, no reasons. (318) Ele asks, posts a pic
13,320 EFN in the game? Doesn’t do anything.

Page 14 vote
curiouskarmadog (4): Roden, OopsieDaisy, clidd, Elements
Elements (3): curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting
geraintm (1): furtiveglance
OopsieDaisy (1): Klick

Not voting (4): Emperor flippyNips, Morning Tweet, humaneatingmonkey, Takutai

14, 326 I come back. Amazed the game blew up 8 pages. I claim VT (had not read, no time to read before I left)
14, 328, Fur full read list, votes Clidd
14, 329, Fur thinks I am town.
14, 336 Tak Votes Fur, no reason (I DON’T LIKE THIS SLOT)
14, 337 OD unvote me, votes EFN.

I don’t like this vote, I mean if you thought I was scum at this point, why unvote after a VT claim? also why vote EFN? Nothing about this post is good.

14, 340, MT wants to know why I said Ill provide something D2, (because I was going to be gone when the day would have ended?)
14, 349 Tweet notes that EFN is playing similar to 2302…so why doesn’t OD votes of him on this same page stand out? (DONT LIKE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN TWEET AND OD, seems like theater)
15, OD – EFN answers OD question, OD asks another, then unvote immediate as an act of good will.
15, 361, Tak unvotes. (NO REASONS) (TAK IS VIG BAIT, that’s right, I am directing a vig…that’s right, I am also self aware.) (self aware comment made me laugh)


OKAY that’s the end of page 15……but I got to go…
Still a shit ton to read, so going to be real curious how I am still leading, but will see. Understand the bolded questions might get addressed in the pages after 15, if they do, ill read it there. if not, please answer. once I am done with the read...ill have more questions I am sure.

[OopsieDaisy]

Well here's the trying I was mentioning

[clidd]

I sympathize with the effort.

For the record, Karma, wording reads does not apply to me (non-native English).

[humaneatingmonkey]

Just let Roden happen. If not for the argument that Roden is scum, curiouskarmadog has better town equity than him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let's not have other slots claim. We opened box #1 and #2. Two options. No elim is pro-scum. Let's just open box Roden and see if I'm right. If I'm wrong, we have a very productive day 1 to analyze and a night kill. If I'm right, we had a very productive day 1 to analyze and a night kill.

[humaneatingmonkey]

At the very least it wasn't a wimpy Roden speedwagon. It was a dynamic end to Day 1 with lots of wagon movement.

[Roden]

No idea why people are so afraid of hunting down scum but whatever I guess

VOTE: Roden

[Roden]

Super glad I tried coming back to the site just to get Day 1 mis-elim'd over literally nothing

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Curiouskarmadog

[Elements]

VOTE: Roden

[geraintm]

VOTE: Curiouskarmadog

I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Curiouskarmadog

I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....

I genuinely think Roden's townier. I don't have to agree with the perceived consensus...