Micro 1085: Even/Odd Killers [GAME OVER]

[JasonWazza]

Votecount 2.5

Fireisredsir (2) - Random Nurse, Deltabreedy
Donempire (2) - Datisi, Roden
Deltabreedy (2) - sheepsaysmeep, fireisredsir,
Random Nurse (1) - Donempire

Not voting (1) -

(expired on 2023-07-12 11:01:57) remain until day end

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

[Deltabreedy]

i don't think you're taking in new information or trying to solve the game at all, you're just repeating old points and positions. i don't get any feeling that the flip of shea being scum told you anything about the game

i don't think town would have nurse as their 3rd preferred lim here

Yeah it told me Shea was scum. They also did a fairly good job at distancing from everyone bar the Merlyn/Nurse slot.

Onto not solving the game and not taking in new info - why are you voting me again?

[Random Nurse]

this game takes like. 30 minutes to read, max. it's not that much of a time commitment

Don't tell a complete stranger what is or isn't "not that much of a time commitment," especially when you don't know how busy that person is in real life.

This is why I've asked you to manage our expectations. Tomorrow? Sunday? Day 3?

It's not unreasonable to ask you to read the game that you replaced into in a timely fashion.

If that's your hang-up then by all means try eliminating me over it.

[Deltabreedy]

You're still not answering my question.

When will you be caught up?

Why are you dodging this question?

[Random Nurse]

On second thought:

VOTE: deltabreedy

[Deltabreedy]

I'm trying real hard to ask you nicely without asking why you replaced into a game you have no time for reading, but plenty of time for posting.

[Deltabreedy]

You're still not answering my question.

When will you be caught up?

Why are you dodging this question?

[fireisredsir]

i don't think appearance is that scummy

the general wagon kinda feels like a jumping on a slight awkwardness of phrasing things that imo is nai

don and maybe shea

appearance i think some of the reasons that he was pushed over were bad and probably scummy which kinda makes me lean town but independent of that i don't particularly townread him. so.... eh

merlyn i guess i should read closer

you/sheep/datisi i wouldn't vote rn

After this you quote a few posts of Appearances but you never developed it any further than 'I think Appearance is scummy'. You point out a few things where you disagree with them but they were never really framed as scummy. You threw around the idea that they weren't solving, but weren't voting them. You would rather it were either Don or I but you never cased either of us really. Indeed, Appearance was 3rd in your list of lim targets behind Don and I.

This is why I find it weird why with some time remaining in the day, you wouldn't look to turn the wagon to a more solid scumread? Your hammer on Appearance was pretty vague, and came immediately after talking about me. To not really explore the appetite for it to any great extent feels to me like you settled for appearance because it's a lim and it's not you.

most people didn't really seem very interested in voting for the people that i was most suspicious of, and i did find appearance to be pretty scummy. there isn't really a solid convincing and accurate case that you can make on someone on like page 20 of a d1 micro (although as scum id probably be more likely to try to make one, not less). it's mostly just try to townblock and lim in the poe and hope you get it right

also, datisi had expressed intent to hammer in 12 hours and it had been like 16 hours since then

[Deltabreedy]

So, safe in the knowledge that Datisi had indicated intent, why did you hammer for them?

[Deltabreedy]

Also fire, am I being a dick by asking Nurse to catch up? I dont feel like I am

[fireisredsir]

i don't think you're taking in new information or trying to solve the game at all, you're just repeating old points and positions. i don't get any feeling that the flip of shea being scum told you anything about the game

i don't think town would have nurse as their 3rd preferred lim here

Yeah it told me Shea was scum. They also did a fairly good job at distancing from everyone bar the Merlyn/Nurse slot.

Onto not solving the game and not taking in new info - why are you voting me again?

you said that shea was one of your top townreads. him flipping scum didn't change your perception of the game at all? who are your top townreads now?

the post that you are quoting is literally taking in new info and explaining why i find it scummy

[Random Nurse]

Also fire, am I being a dick by asking Nurse to catch up? I dont feel like I am

I told you I have no interest reading 28+ pages of past Day 1 speculation, and yet you continue pestering me over that as if that's going to help anyone. That is my meta. Continue pestering me over it to your own detriment.

[fireisredsir]

So, safe in the knowledge that Datisi had indicated intent, why did you hammer for them?

because it was past his bedtime so he probably fell asleep without hammering and i thought we had reached the point of the day where we weren't getting much more useful out of it without a flip

[fireisredsir]

Also fire, am I being a dick by asking Nurse to catch up? I dont feel like I am

i mean kinda yeah

i think that in the time he's spent talking about how he has no time, he could have read half the game by now, and that is a little annoying, but it's a pointless argument that i don't think has anything to do with his alignment nor is continuing to fight about it likely to change what he's doing

[Deltabreedy]

Also fire, am I being a dick by asking Nurse to catch up? I dont feel like I am

I told you I have no interest reading 28+ pages of past Day 1 speculation, and yet you continue pestering me over that as if that's going to help anyone. That is my meta. Continue pestering me over it to your own detriment.

You have 65 posts on the site, a third of them in this game - you don't have a meta?

'Trust me, I'm ALWAYS this lazy!'

Nah fuck that tbh - your vote on fire came from shite vibes on the first 3 pages and your vote on me is because what - I want you to read the game you voluntarily replaced into? That's a kinda wild take.

[Deltabreedy]

My heads fell off at this, what is going on

[Deltabreedy]

Also, @Fire - Do you understand how logically inconsistent it is for your vote to be on me for 'not solving the game' and yet you're now defending this behaviour from Nurse, almost refusing to play the game.

Can you rehash your argument against me again?

Additionally, I find it odd that you're not holding Datisi to account for not hammering when they said they would.

[fireisredsir]

Also, @Fire - Do you understand how logically inconsistent it is for your vote to be on me for 'not solving the game' and yet you're now defending this behaviour from Nurse, almost refusing to play the game.

Can you rehash your argument against me again?

Additionally, I find it odd that you're not holding Datisi to account for not hammering when they said they would.

i think nurse is town and his current play is annoying but doesn't affect my read on his alignment

i don't think that datisi not hammering when he said he would is meaningful at all. if it's a point that you're interested in then you are welcome to ask him about it yourself rather than ask me ???

like if datisi is your second highest scumread and this is a significant point to you (significant enough to ask me why i didn't care about it) then why haven't you cared about it until now?

that's what i mean about not feeling like you're trying to solve the game. it seems like this thought just occurred to you as a gotcha that you could use against me. your behavior isn't consistent with a town mindset because you're not proactively using these ideas and points to try to push towards solving the game, you're just finding things to argue about

[Deltabreedy]

I wanted to hear what you thought about it first, as you're my primary scumread. You're right in that it only occurred to me now. Unfortunately for you, my perception of it is as I said above - that you found a wagon with steam, you gave it your support in an apparent 180 from your original thoughts and you limmed it without really trying to push for a me or a Don lim.

For someone being so bullish about my apparent lack of gamesolving, you really are keen to give people a pass.

I get the feeling you're really trying to push this narrative of 'not trying to solve the game' because you've got nothing else to push, so you're manufacturing this and hoping it sticks off the back of 'suspecting' me yesterday. Im still yet to see a coherent case on anyone come from you that carries any weight?

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@Datisi:

Why didn't you hammer? What changed?

[fireisredsir]

Im still yet to see a coherent case on anyone come from you that carries any weight?

bestie same

[Deltabreedy]

#709-#712 for anyone that's interested.

Mad what can be accomplished when you read the game but hey we've learned today that's optional

[Deltabreedy]

I'm moving house tomorrow and taking apart my computer in like 30 mins or so, so if anyone wants to ask me anything now is the time before I'm almost-but-not-quite V/LA.

[sheepsaysmeep]

Fire!Scum or Fire!SK makes me feel associatively better about Datisi

how is this even possible lmao

[Deltabreedy]

They aren't partners
I still scumread Datisi but I don't have it as strongly. I think Fire is nailed on though.

[sheepsaysmeep]

we already know they aren't partners because mafia's partner was tsq and sk doesnt have a partner