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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:51 pm

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If you're town you'll find me.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:53 pm

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that sounds confident

is the dismal future you envision that 7 of us find you town but none of us vote with you

wait six of us

whatever yknow
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:54 pm

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HELLBOOKS' STRATEGY TO PLAYING THE PERFECT SCUM GAME: the only guide you'll ever need
coming to mafia discussion subforum near you!!!

1. arrive with the loss already engraved in your heart. rid yourself of the desire to "win." reach enlightenment. watch as your scumrange stretches to infinity. remember, the first nightkill any mafia must make is that of their own fear.

2. you should try and intersperse reads and game relevant moments in between spamming lots of fun posts. the former is especially important because otherwise people will become suspicious and they will try to alleviate their suspicion by assigning you "tasks" such as giving your opinion on things or reading peoples isos and coming back with a little book report on it. you want to avoid "tasks" at all costs

3. hope that edman hits some good dingers out there (this step, i admit, is rather case-specific.)

4. ???

5. ehm.... lose to baltar in elo, i guess? idk, i havent rly gotten further than that
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:57 pm

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In post 269, fireisredsir wrote: not in the "in the multiverse of this specific game she is town in every universe" way
definitely a good thing to rule out since it's provably false (and you know it, of course). not to play against my library counterpart's wincon.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:01 pm

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In post 276, Isis wrote: that sounds confident

is the dismal future you envision that 7 of us find you town but none of us vote with you

wait six of us

whatever yknow
I've expressed a bunch of thoughts and I don't feel like anyone is evaluating them really or taking them seriously, maybe its just early stage nonsense.

And maybe who knows maybe this will be the first time I've been mislimmed since like 2015 or something like that. Would be exciting.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:02 pm

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Anyway I don't have a filter and if I think something I say it and I don't play the game to be "found" I play the game to find scum.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:03 pm

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Okie
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:04 pm

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Maybe I should consider that in this setup in particular being found has more value than in a normal game of mafia but I think playing specifically to be town read would be such a departure from how I try to play as either alignment that I'm not even really sure how I would go about it.

My strength as a mafia player is being very good at recreating my town game as scum so like its hard for me to even envision what a shea who is just trying to get town reads would look like.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:05 pm

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i think people have engaged with most of your thoughts
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:06 pm

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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:07 pm

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In post 283, fireisredsir wrote: i think people have engaged with most of your thoughts
good for you.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:09 pm

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which thoughts are you thinking of when you think they have not been evaluated or taken seriously enough?
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:10 pm

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I think that's false because it's all zero sum, if you determine that sheep is 80% likely to be scum you can coalition other people at random and hit instant wins more. If you determine that I am 100% likely to be scum with skitter and she is explaining to me that Power cards are not actually that important against Time Eater in the scum PT then you get winning coalitions every time
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:11 pm

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Why are you asking that question? Do you think it will help you read me or are you trying to engage with said thoughts yourself or some other reason?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:16 pm

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i am interested in if it is a real thought you had because last game as scum you made a post that i felt was kinda similar victim-y vibes of "everyone is treating me like x" and it was made up and you ignored me when i tried to ask you for specifics

im aware that you make posts like that all the time regardless of alignment but i think they're more likely to come from a real place of feeling when you're town
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:18 pm

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im not gonna like litigate whether your feelings of engagement with the posts are valid or whatever im just wondering where the thought is coming from for you
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:20 pm

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I think actually what I'm feeling is that everyone in this game is really good friends with each other and I'm kinda like the metaphorical third wheel in this player list to be honest and I do not have a lot of confidence that I can break through that rather than any specific thought.

It's a vibe.

I think that reasoning is a horrible way to read me but you do you.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:21 pm

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In post 289, fireisredsir wrote: i am interested in if it is a real thought you had because last game as scum you made a post that i felt was kinda similar victim-y vibes of "everyone is treating me like x" and it was made up and you ignored me when i tried to ask you for specifics

im aware that you make posts like that all the time regardless of alignment but i think they're more likely to come from a real place of feeling when you're town
relevant to this post, I basically thought "these feel like posts shea made as wolf except much more emotionally town" so I guess I think he's towning if the last line is factual that caught my eye
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:23 pm

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In post 291, Thestatusquo wrote: I think actually what I'm feeling is that everyone in this game is really good friends with each other and I'm kinda like the metaphorical third wheel in this player list to be honest and I do not have a lot of confidence that I can break through that rather than any specific thought.

It's a vibe.

I think that reasoning is a horrible way to read me but you do you.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:23 pm

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I have low self esteem and negative self thoughts as either alignment I promise you.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:26 pm

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this game is undoubtedly bound to be a somewhat vibey social one for anyone who feels like participating in that but when it comes to the actual mafia reads and bits like that i will still be taking everyone's thoughts seriously and engaging with them and trying to solve the game
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:29 pm

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In post 292, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 289, fireisredsir wrote: i am interested in if it is a real thought you had because last game as scum you made a post that i felt was kinda similar victim-y vibes of "everyone is treating me like x" and it was made up and you ignored me when i tried to ask you for specifics

im aware that you make posts like that all the time regardless of alignment but i think they're more likely to come from a real place of feeling when you're town
relevant to this post, I basically thought "these feel like posts shea made as wolf except much more emotionally town" so I guess I think he's towning if the last line is factual that caught my eye
i think so too

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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:32 pm

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I have a"different alignments" conjecture for fire and Shea
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:33 pm

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Ppl can dox me and call me my Christian name in mafia too if they want to lol
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:38 pm

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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