Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

[fireisredsir]

i had a thought yesterday when i was walking home that ari/sheep makes sense as a team and then forgot about it until right now

that would be a neat bit of theatre to get sheep into the coalition back there a few pages ago

that's like the biggest hangup I have with you actually - I think you know me well enough to know I pretty much never play scum this way lol

i don't really agree but im open to hearing what you think you wouldn't be doing

[fireisredsir]

i guess im supposed to know

i could try to guess if you'd like

[Aristeia]

I think you know and I don't particularly enjoy self metaing myself because its kind of pointless

[Aristeia]

I mean you don't really need to guess? Like I think you know and you're saying you don't know, so either you're scum lying about not knowing or town who really doesn't know and I'll know the difference at the end of the game?

[Aristeia]

like maybe I'm overestimating how well you know me and that's fine

[Isis]

I have the most posts but it's not because I'm breaking scumrange it's because Datisi called me boring in a post game and he's reading this

But I have 89 fluffposts and think I am funny but am not funny the way my partner is funny but thinks she's not funny, like Isis and Persephone, so Datisi is gonna post again that I made the game boring

[hellbooks]

i think i feel that way with a lot of things tbh

I think sometimes people think that trying to recreate things that happened naturally is "cringe" but i find it rather noble

Anyway making jokes is always kind of an artificial process imo. Like i think skyg and xof said similar things about me last game. Im not letting my brain splash onto the page, as prodigious as i would like to seem. I am thinking about them in the shower and before bed and like drafting them in my scum pts and such. And im not trying to manipulate you or anything.... oh god here we go again.... but like thats just like literally how it is.... like i thought about how the bulge would maybe like the joke about edman in the scum strategy guide bc he signed up for that game and was like "oh good i havent been able to target any jokes towards the bulge so i cant wait to get back to my computer and post it"

but ultimately i would like it if the purity of my humorous intention was never called into question (i know, pipe dream) and if everyone could instead be more like sheep and be like "ok i do not have 0.00000001% of an ability to read this fucking guy" (sorry to editorialize you into having called me a guy sheep and you are free to do that) (but only sheep) and just decided to policy lim me d1 every time or something. Or you could wait and pressure me until my true nature eventually blossoms forth, leaking game relevant (?) words like the bleeding guggenheim tiktok robot

[Isis]

I feel like Aristeia would include Mawile in Sableye/Charizard

[Isis]

The way this setup works policy limming hellbooks puts her in the fun car

[Aristeia]

I should learn how to play Pokemon it looks like such a fun game but I have a smooth brain unfortunately

[fireisredsir]

like maybe I'm overestimating how well you know me and that's fine

i think you wouldn't choose to be in the position that you're in right now but i think you didn't have a ton of choice in the matter? and it feels like you have made multiple attempts at changing the position of things in a way that i think could accomplish your goals if you were scum

being outside the coalition isn't even bad for you. i actually would expect it to be your preferred position as scum

[Aristeia]

what are my goals as scum again?

[fireisredsir]

like right now all that matters to scum you is

1) have 1 scum in the coalition

2) have town in the coalition ready to be yeeted

and i think you are a pretty "accomplish the goals immediately in front of me through force of will" scum player

and for example if you are scum with sheep i think your fight to pull shea out of the coalition pulls a town out and bumps someone who was borderline up in to replace him, and i think sheep is in that range. it doesn't have to be sheep, that could apply to others as well, but he's the one i thought of

in general i just don't really see much about your play that is particularly counter to those goals so im not sure why you would expect me to think it's impossible that you would be scum here

[Aristeia]

like it seems vastly easier to just fight my way into the coalition instead of whatever you seem to think I'm doing if I'm scum here.

[Aristeia]

I don't really think I would ever in a million years count on sheep to get into the coalition if I was teamed with sheep.[no offense sheep]

[hellbooks]

The thing about 138 is that the post tris towneead is either town lamist or scum lamist and Shea said itt he doesn't play lamist

my takeaway from the extended exchange was that shea scumread a different aspect of the post than the part that tris townread and neither of them really were about the post as a whole

Experienced a shocking and brilliant twinge of melancholy from this, lets just like ruminate on all the ways we're doomed to misunderstand each other and how text mafia inherently brings that part of human interaction to the forefront

[fireisredsir]

thats maybe easier but you entered the game on the back foot and people kind of pushed you out of the coalition pretty quickly

it's also vastly easier to direct which town get yeeted from outside the coalition which I think is something you would be good at and would do well similar to turing test

[Isis]

Ari isn't scum with me cause I'd be in 4 coalition votes rn

[fireisredsir]

I don't really think I would ever in a million years count on sheep to get into the coalition if I was teamed with sheep.[no offense sheep]

i believe in sheep!!

[Isis]

Ari have you considered that perhaps you are interactinf extensively with scum

[Isis]

If I was scum with sheep I would bus and play solo

[Isis]

I once randed scum with my favorite mafia player on earth and bussed and played solo

[Isis]

Bus and play solo

[Aristeia]

thats maybe easier but you entered the game on the back foot and people kind of pushed you out of the coalition pretty quickly

it's also vastly easier to direct which town get yeeted from outside the coalition which I think is something you would be good at and would do well similar to turing test

it feels like you're really reaching for this explanation and I don't really think you believe it?

you don't gain thread influence by being outside the coalition and not being townread

[hellbooks]

man sheep is just catching so many strays can we all just come together and threadspew him already