Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

[Isis]

But I want you to kill me

[Aristeia]

i had a thought yesterday when i was walking home that ari/sheep makes sense as a team and then forgot about it until right now

that would be a neat bit of theatre to get sheep into the coalition back there a few pages ago

like you have no issue shading me and randomly slotting me with people who are my "teammate" but when I ask you to actually put up you are running away from it like its a hot iron?

[Aristeia]

But I want you to kill me

I refuse

[fireisredsir]

me considering possible scumteams means that i must be willing to be the one who solo decides the coalition

[Aristeia]

me considering possible scumteams means that i must be willing to be the one who solo decides the coalition

I kind of feel like you've been pretty targeted towards me and it's not just you idly running through the calculations

[Aristeia]

like um have you even considered a scum team without me on it? like where?

[tris]

Why would you do this tris

sorry!! i needed to make room for sheep, and hellbooks squeeked by with her 2/3 of a townpoint which is more than your 2/7 of a townpoint.

[tris]

I still kind of feel like hellbooks jokey vibes feel more forced this game than last game.

i kinda wanna townread this

[fireisredsir]

but guessing at teams is fun so now im thinking about it

i think if you're scum then there's a bunch of possibilities. isis is maybe the too easy answer

one team that popped into my head was skitter/tris bc i think skitter seeming somewhat resigned to being outside was surprising to me. i think she wouldn't do that as scum with very many people though but if it was anyone i think it would be if she was with a consensus townread? i don't really actively scumread either of these tho

bulge could also be scum with basically anyone

sheep idk lol

isis i think if scum just wants to go in the coalition so maybe that is motivated by being with someone expected not to make it like bulge or someone kinda content to be left out like skitter or you. but i think skitter would want to push a little harder there bc i don't think isis is a lock to make it in rn

[fireisredsir]

i haven't really talked about bulge because he isn't here but i have definitely been considering worlds where he is just scum

[tris]

I think sometimes people think that trying to recreate things that happened naturally is "cringe" but i find it rather noble

jotting this down in my notes

[Aristeia]

maybe I'm just taking this too seriously sorry fire

[tris]

why does no one else townread fire

[fireisredsir]

maybe I'm just taking this too seriously sorry fire

its ok to take it seriously, i would also like to find scum

i just don't really feel like i have successfully done that yet and i don't know why you would expect me to have confidence in my reads here

[fireisredsir]

why does no one else townread fire

im threadspewed scum

[sheepsaysmeep]

why does no one else townread fire

good at scum = -10 points L

[sheepsaysmeep]

that was a joke I just personally am not very moved by him in either direction idk

[sheepsaysmeep]

Why do you townread him tris

[hellbooks]

I think sometimes people think that trying to recreate things that happened naturally is "cringe" but i find it rather noble

jotting this down in my notes

Did you do it in the monastery scriptorium

why does no one else townread fire

i guess i quietly said that i was in fires pocket an extremely long time ago (like 1 day ago) and never once again alluded to it

[fireisredsir]

i thought you were saying you scumread me with that post tbh

[sheepsaysmeep]

I might just be scarred from fire snowing me last time

[Isis]

I'm more interested in why tris townreads heavenfilms

[sheepsaysmeep]

I am reading the thread more in-depth and it's going really badly, im scumreading everyone slightly more than I used to be

[hellbooks]

Uh oh -- just got titlespewed

[sheepsaysmeep]

sheep town

tris is like probably town. I was like very weirdly not into her early isis read at all which largely caused me to make my above doompost. but her overall vibe is still very good; for someone who supposedly struggles more to be natural as wolf, she is prob just town. In garlic bread I correctly found her as town partly for her "doing her own thing" townily and I think the insistent question-asking here sort of resembles that.

fire reluctantly I would say is starting to sometimes feel town. one cool example is I think the way he pulls on experience from past coalition games for insight is genuine. like the way he used the logic of "these people aren't w/w because of how they'd be setting themselves up for d1 loss" was actually so "wait woah" to me that it made me first flip the switch
one thing that just made me feel hesitant at the last second was his recent hellbooks townread explanation. honestly that felt like complete bogus. but I dont even know if thats wolfy for him when he seems good enough as scum at coming up with reasonable reads and explanations lol

skitter is fine ish. vibes like villa games but I dont have any recollection of her wolf game. she is like "too not trying to be towny to be not town" (different from too wolfy to be wolf)

ari I feel like is ever slightly >rand wolf. some of her conclusions have felt forced to me. namely, in her back-and-forth with shea, I agreed with her more, but personally I Too-didnt-agree with "this is wolf who can't come up with justification" when I could really easily see shea as being a stubborn town, basically completely NAI to me. and then I felt like she kinda weirdly prematurely went, "welp if shea and I live and we dont get this info then we're just going to 100% deathtunnel each other: thus stuff should go like this." likewise in her conversation with me, at times I felt like she was trying to force herself into a certain conclusion about me. same with the fire conversation that I am just now reading; my first instinct is it feels like she tried to force herself into scumreading fire with weird premises that didnt make sense to me


isis I think is slightly wolfy. her vibe to me just feels more informed than naturally solving, idk how to describe better (altho I could see that being due to just how she presents reads playstylewise). I think she has tried to poke suspicion at people in a way that fell flat for me, such as trying to shade activity patterns, or 706, there have just been some attempts to sus people that felt awk to me

note that I dont think ari/isis is w/w. ari is sorta pushing herself away from the coalition and isis does not seem like in a solid enough position to free her teammate to do that

TSQ is ok. to be honest, this could be due to really flawed sample size, but if I think about it hard maybe his refusal to explain/argue his scumread is scummy for him. in my towngame with him he tunneled Norwegian boy ee and he kept offering up additional nuances/reasonings, whereas the times ive seen him wolf theres more just blindly repeating "this person is scum". I could see this being from fatigue from all the scum rands. I guess me thinking this maybe contradicts my ari scumread maybe not lol idrk

the bulge is nothing
gun to my head his post sequence was slightly towny lol

hellbooks I dont know either. I think shea said like "hellbooks somehow feels less pure than garlic" which feels like a good take lol but she still feels ok