Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whoops my bad big B

I'll owe you a bottle of Yamazaki next time you're in NY

VOTE: Pooky

I think we just dunk drew at f5 and ez win

[sheepsaysmeep]

I do not enjoy doing jack shit and then not getting away with it

[sheepsaysmeep]

I do not think I have the balls to follow through on killing pooky purely for getting it wrong

[Invisibility]

at least it was kind of funny I guess
can we squeeze anymore effort out of this playerlist? Idk I guess I should look at people's homework

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think we should consider semi-rebooting that process with less homework to do for each person because the list is smaller

and can just reuse the homework of flipped town bingle, rip sorry bingle

[sheepsaysmeep]

I will probably assume firebringer town

like

it's not that he couldnt be scum, but it's the one ISO ive done and he's so much

more

villagery than everyone else that it feels fair enough to just work with never voting him

[Invisibility]

I think there's a solid possibility of this being TvT with Pooky just latching onto a hero solve and confbiasing his way into this hole, and an outside chance he's actually right and we're all being played for fools, but like.

If Datisi descended from the heavens and said one of them MUST be scum, gun to head I'd go for Pooky.

He's hyperfocusing on a specific aspect that I don't think actually aligns with the reality of the situation, and Bingle's defense pretty much matches my perception of events.

So here's my thing. A hypothetical sheep townflip forces me to reevaluate the game as I presently understand it, and in the event that I'm wrong, I want that opportunity to reevaluate. I don't want to be stuck with sheep in ELo, and ESPECIALLY not both sheep and Drew.

If this Bingle/Pooky 1v1 absolutely MUST be resolved today, I will vote for Pooky. But I won't follow through onto Bingle until after I have an answer on sheep.

I will alternatively move to Drew, who is tied into my sheep read and would also be a place I looked for a partner if I knew that I were wrong about Bingle, so it would serve to either win, or provide context that actually helps me solve after.

Unfortunately, either Pooky or Bingle flipping green... leaves me in the exact same spot I'm at now. It just wastes a day eliminating a townread, just like we did yesterday with osuka, and I don't want to do that again.

So.

VOTE: Doctor Drew
Anyone for hammer?

Ugh, fine. Better this than no lim VOTE: Bingle

it would be legendary if Pooky is right

Why did you switch when we already had a hammer lined up for Drew?

what if the scummteam is Merlyn/Drew lol and that's why RR died? And also the vote switch they noted was rather odd yes. They would be in a somewhat decent pizza state since limming Pooky today seemed like the forgone conclusion if Bingle flipped town. I'll iso them later

[Invisibility]

I think we should consider semi-rebooting that process with less homework to do for each person because the list is smaller

and can just reuse the homework of flipped town bingle, rip sorry bingle

yeah this is a good idea

[sheepsaysmeep]

I was also about to say I kinda want to just guess drewmerlyn... idk

Invisibility, camelCasedSnivy, Doctor Drew, Merlyn, Firebringer, sheepsaysmeep, PookyTheMagicalBear

invis towny
ccs/ausuka is ok ehh

drew meh
merlyn meh

firebringer towny

sheep

pooky was a little towny

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im willing to kill drew today instead of tommorrow but I feel like I will have cheated my boy Bingle of his well deserved revenge

[Invisibility]

hopefully his ghost doesn't curse us or something

[sheepsaysmeep]

the thing is logically there is very good reason to follow through on killing pooky now

like if im in lylo and I look back like who was pro-town and who was pro-scum and pooky pummeling bingle benefitted scum so it's hard to ever get there on town!pooky so maybe he should be resolved

[sheepsaysmeep]

but also in this setup especially it feels like doing the trade myself thing is especially just not the play

like when the stake is you lose the game if people follow through and kill you after the town flip, then it feels like it would just be wrong for scum to try

[Invisibility]

yeah idk is Pooky the kind of player to do a mega gambit like that

[sheepsaysmeep]

he does sorta seem like it lmfao

[sheepsaysmeep]

but it still seems too generally towny

[sheepsaysmeep]

ya I want to just say drew-merlyn but like

that just means the wolves have been gone and we've just been self-imploding ourselves

which I never like to accept

[sheepsaysmeep]

invisibility iso:

he feels more town than I thought he was coming into this ISO. he just vibes good, isn't trying to be towny

I do not think he is w/w with towwl-drew slot; he really presses towwl early on
doesnt feel w/w with merlyn either I guess just due to a vote at one point

[sheepsaysmeep]

ausuka iso (now ccs):

-her early exchange with bingle where bingle sussed her for signaling and she was like "bruh I dont buy this" was towny to me. it felt genuine. and it felt like overreacting to pressure in a towny way lmao like scum would be scared of seeming too defensive

-yeah she just feels emotionally town?? lol like so done with everything which I think is a towntell when it's made really clear

-I dont think she kills meuh because of the way meuh was defending her hard ??

-I dont think she is scum with umlaut-pooky slot. I could see her with my scumreads tho (drew/merlyn)

-ok I reached a point in her iso where she doesnt feel paired with drew btw

-does not feel paired with invisibility

-I guess does not feel paired with merlyn by 1453 ??? maybe my bar for eliminating people as pairings is too low

-I think her reads are constantly changing in a way that's towny, every single poe person she has gone back and forth between town and scum like 3-4 times

-there are a couple things that make me paranoid, like this does not feel like the game I modded where she was town, and her townread on me was maybe too easy and pockety. but this is probably just a towny iso

[Invisibility]

but it still seems too generally towny

prob

[sheepsaysmeep]

towwl/drew.. iso is very conflicting idk. maybe cuz I think im pretty bad at reading drew

-towwlposting I always think was kinda scummy

-when I reread the weird signaling theory I find it more towny, I guess because people say it's towny for drew, if I can trust their meta assessments lol

-otherwise drew posting is very meh with lots of empty questions, I guess the mehness is just >rand wolf

-his tunnels on ausuka/osuka would be villagery but theyre kinda shallow and and unexplained, which is kinda what I'd expect from a wolf who d1 needs to be pushing people they think are town

-his drop-off after d1 is one of the more extreme ones which is bad?

-I struggle more to find non w/w connections in this iso than I did in other ones. however he doesnt really feel w/w with merlyn?? he suddenly flips into scumreading merlyn d2 at the same time that merlyn became a popular wagon option

idk, he felt gut town lol which is really bad im running out of people and maybe somethings wrong . but it still feels like he just fits the picture as scum better

[sheepsaysmeep]

I guess it's ending up that I think merlyn is unpartnered based on how fire went "let's kill merlyn" and then every single person was like ok and voted merlyn

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: doctor drew

[sheepsaysmeep]

merlyn iso:


- 384 is just a scummy post lmao I find that "why is this person a wagon again" is more often wolf

-824 is just another individual post I find wolfy lol


-her ausuka defense feels weird, like either partnered or tmi. 416 577

-I once more think this slot is not really paired with drew... which is interesting, I'll need to think hard about which of them is scummier rather than just assuming it's the exact team rip


-I think my reason to townread them for response to almost dying is less valid because I believe she didnt realize she was at e-1 lol. 1523

-also the vote switch at the end of yesterday when it wasnt necessary is just.. kinda scummy

idk I think this is one of the more scummy iso's in the game. just rly lacking in desire to solve and stuff. I think she was townier as town in scarfolk mafia

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: merlyn