Open 104 - The New C9 - Game Over

[zhaorx]

people who have to come up with some "purpose" for putting a vote on someone on Day 1 is a solid scum tell.

[atakdog]

people who have to come up with some "purpose" for putting a vote on someone on Day 1 is a solid scum tell.

Disagree. That's a wolf tell on POG (and not all that solid -- you have to consider who's doing it), but seems to be the norm here, and therefore is probably a null tell in this context.

[StrangerCoug]

anyway, there's a scum among siesta, mada, cougar. bank on it.

Why? You give no reasoning whatsoever why you think we're scum.

people who have to come up with some "purpose" for putting a vote on someone on Day 1 is a solid scum tell.

OK, this can go either way. Some of us do what are called "pressure votes", and those aren't scummy. Voting someone to get that person policy lynched is usually scummy, though. Could you clarify what you're trying to tell us?

[atakdog]

anyway, there's a scum among siesta, mada, cougar. bank on it.

Why? You give no reasoning whatsoever why you think we're scum.

people who have to come up with some "purpose" for putting a vote on someone on Day 1 is a solid scum tell.

OK, this can go either way. Some of us do what are called "pressure votes", and those aren't scummy. Voting someone to get that person policy lynched is usually scummy, though. Could you clarify what you're trying to tell us?

QFInconsistency. You purport not to understand what he's doing, then discuss an almost identical phenomenon.

(Since you seem to love having things spelled out: how is it not obvious that he's putting pressure on the players he's calling scum?)

[zhaorx]

my point is that given day 1 without much reads or information, overdefending a vote for "some logical reason" is fillery.

[hewitt]

To me, the scummy ones are the ones who point the finger first, especially on say their first post. That raises a red flag in my book.

[atakdog]

To me, the scummy ones are the ones who point the finger first, especially on say their first post. That raises a red flag in my book.

You do realize that joke votes in the first post are standard for many players regardless of role, right?

[zhaorx]

similarly, getting agitated over a few votes on you is also scum like. but i do concede this is my first game on this site, and that may be standard. will have to wait and see.

[hewitt]

To me, the scummy ones are the ones who point the finger first, especially on say their first post. That raises a red flag in my book.

You do realize that joke votes in the first post are standard for many players regardless of role, right?

Of course. However, can you honestly say that all the votes that have been cast thus far are jokes? And I wasn't just talking about votes I was referring to the people who targeted someone from the get go.

[atakdog]

To me, the scummy ones are the ones who point the finger first, especially on say their first post. That raises a red flag in my book.

You do realize that joke votes in the first post are standard for many players regardless of role, right?

Of course. However, can you honestly say that all the votes that have been cast thus far are jokes? And I wasn't just talking about votes I was referring to the people who targeted someone from the get go.

No, I imagine the votes on Z are for real, albeit based on a misapprehension of his approach to the game. And the votes on OMG for his ridiculous claim are real. the rest? Bit early to tell, but we really can't attribute anything to "scumminess" (I'm much more comfortable with werewolf terminology, which I also find more interesting, but I do acknowledge the historical correctness of this lexicon) until we see how things shift.

[hewitt]

Yeah, we'll just see how it plays out I was just stating my opinion. lol And I would also assume the votes on OMG are real too.

[atakdog]

Yeah, we'll just see how it plays out I was just stating my opinion. lol And I would also assume the votes on OMG are real too.

They're real but misguided (and no, I am not going to explain why).

[Sun Tzu]

Did you read those games yet?

[oEJo]

its kind of weird regardless how oejo comes in and votes omgiminnocent..especially after i gave omgiminnocent an opening to take which he flat out refused.

He's not my fucking mason buddy.

[Hitch]

I am up to post 74 so far.

vote stef

because voting for a claimed mason D1 with no counter claim/other evidence etc is incredibly anti town, and given he appears to be an experianced player the behaviour is wolfy, sorry don't know the correct adjective for these forums, is scummy right?

also - hai guyz

[atakdog]

Did you read those games yet?

I will probably do so over the weekend, which should be safe -- as you know, I rarely take a position, much less cast a vote, until near end of day, which in this game should be right around Christmas.

[atakdog]

I am up to post 74 so far.

vote stef

because voting for a claimed mason D1 with no counter claim/other evidence etc is incredibly anti town, and given he appears to be an experianced player the behaviour is wolfy, sorry don't know the correct adjective for these forums, is scummy right?

also - hai guyz

Yo, Hitch.

How does the new info that OMG's claim is disputed by the claimed mason change your assessment of stef's vote?

[Sun Tzu]

Did you read those games yet?

I will probably do so over the weekend, which should be safe -- as you know, I rarely take a position, much less cast a vote, until near end of day, which in this game should be right around Christmas.

Neither of them should take long, but read the second one first. I just reread it.

[Hitch]

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[hewitt]

Chill out that happened to me too it's not a big deal.

[Sun Tzu]

You just have to wait a few minutes. I agree that it's annoying.

[M1KEMMIEMIEMKEMIKE]

ZHAORX is an AWFUL vote today, for a few reasons:

A. this is completely standard for him (not the insulting bits, but his style and the awesome poke bits)

B. As the game proceeds, he will work hard, be active (GOD KNOWS THESE GAMES NEED IT) and probably wolf hunt as villa / slip up as mafia

vote: stef

you came off REALLY bad in that 'retarted' conversation. I mean i dont think i've ver seen someone so mortally wounded by a single word before.

y so serious?

Answer me this: are you a massive nit, or scum?

[M1KEMMIEMIEMKEMIKE]

i think it's easier to belive OMG im innocent on the claim because:

- his claim is so damn refutable, its ridiculously hard to make it stick. i mean he has to rely on his partner, and if hes a wolf doing it, his partner is going to claim in accordance like damn near 100% of the time to keep hte even flow going, IMO.

- his 'partner' spazzed, i'm not sure what this means...but less likely they are wolves than random villas together?

have to think more

[M1KEMMIEMIEMKEMIKE]

Sun i'd like to read your wolf games but this forum is really awkward...

thnk you could link one or 2?

[StrangerCoug]

anyway, there's a scum among siesta, mada, cougar. bank on it.

Why? You give no reasoning whatsoever why you think we're scum.

people who have to come up with some "purpose" for putting a vote on someone on Day 1 is a solid scum tell.

OK, this can go either way. Some of us do what are called "pressure votes", and those aren't scummy. Voting someone to get that person policy lynched is usually scummy, though. Could you clarify what you're trying to tell us?

QFInconsistency. You purport not to understand what he's doing, then discuss an almost identical phenomenon.

I don't understand why he's been using irrelevant information to defend himself and, for all I care, pulling names out of a hat and calling the names he gets scum. I do not believe that he is pressure-voting SiestaGuru (see below). He's posting like he has reasons for suspecting us, but I'm having a hard time figuring them out. OK, so SiestaGuru and I make very forced posts in defending our votes on Day 1. Apparently, he knows our meta. Meta, however, is not an accurate indicator of alignment, and his #9 in isolation indicates that he wants us wagoned to a lynch.

For obvious reasons, no one is anywhere near being policy lynched right now.

(Since you seem to love having things spelled out: how is it not obvious that he's putting pressure on the players he's calling scum?)

Mada and SiestaGuru have one post apiece so far, both of their current votes are random, and zhaorx's case on me is crap if even existent.