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[medeia]

You say that, but it's too convenient knowing that I jailed Medeia Night 1.

If I were Scum I'd have no reason to counter-claim in response to your Bulletproof claim. It'd be so much easier to just pretend to be a VT.

i still cannot tell if this is an act or not - from my perspective it felt like random nurse might have been conveniently claiming jailkeeping me in order to explain away my result

and claiming vanilla town would obviously not accomplish this

but is 'completely unaware' a tactic that a scums who fakeclaimed themself would be likely to employ tho

like if you crafted a fakeclaim in order to make everything make sense would you then keep saying 'oh scum!me would have claimed vt' (even though it doesn't make any sense) and 'so what is a checker anyway' and 'what guilty what's pooky talking about'? ya know

idk it doesn't seem impossible to me but would that really be the first arrow out of the quiver? and has been consistent, so

would like others opinions on this i guess

[Invisibility]

VC 2.06

PookyTheMagicalBear (1): skitter30
Random Nurse (3): PookyTheMagicalBear, ceejayvinoya, ChicagoTypewriter
ChicagoTypewriter (2): Random Nurse, sheepsaysmeep

Not voting: T3, medeia

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate someone. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-07-30 08:56:28).

[medeia]

also we could just no lim here if we want to get fancy and see who dies with the JK leashed to the Checker

it depends upon who we would otherwise eliminate here i think

like if random nurse is town then it is better for us to eliminate here and stay on evens maybe?

and like, if we miseliminate here and miseliminate at six random nurse could in theory still prevent a nightkill and that one would actually confirm random nurse and prevent a loss

but i don't know if that's likely enough to occur to be worth considering though

and if random nurse is not town i don't know if sleeping does anything towards discovering that fact

but if we're going to eliminate random nurse here anyway then maybe we consider sleeping first? because when we sleep becomes less meaningful i think and! if we were going to eliminate random nurse and random nurse is nightkilled then that is obviously beneficial

[medeia]

idk i guess i wonder what you think we gain by doing so

[medeia]

Why do you refuse to vote Chicago, Sheep?

also if i squint this:

VOTE: Chicago

I think Chicago is the optimal lim today. I claimed Jailkeeper because I don't believe his Bulletproof claim; I don't see BP and JK in the same setup but I'm not 100% on that. If you lim me you lose your JK early, but chances are extremely high I'll be NK'd tonight anyways. There is a chance Scum opts to leave me alive Night 2 to set me up for a mis-lim Day 3.

IF CT flips Town, then I'd say look at Medeia since I did jail her and there was no NK—maybe she performed the NK action (look into this late game).

feels like it could have been built out of recent sheepsaysmeep posts entirely but idk if that means anything

[medeia]

VOTE: Chicago

do you think chicagotypewriter and pooky are possibly partnered or is this entirely unrelated to your willingness to eliminate pooky?

[medeia]

feel completely unable to process any information right now sorry

sheepsaysmeep doesn't

not

feel like he may have been kicking tires here to see what else is viable here outside of pooky/random nurse

like with the 'tinfoil' about me or thoughts on chicagotypewriter and t3

don't think he's likely partnered with t3 because this is the second time he's been like, if anyone else wants to vote here though...

which sure yeah if you want me to lay out worlds t3 probably in a lot of them

[medeia]

training soon will return in ~five hours

[sheepsaysmeep]

Have fun training

[medeia]

Have fun training

thankyou! could you maybe talk about what it is you're townreading from random nurse

and also maybe thoughts on likelihood of someone taking 'unaware' approach as scums as outlined above please

[sheepsaysmeep]

Yes maybe later I am on my phone

[sheepsaysmeep]

ok so the townread is a bittt weaker after iso'ing him lol

but I think, being so aggressively confident in his worldview that he reaches out to others and tries to get them to join him is a good sign of town!nurse. and being so aggressively confident that it's like, "im right and doing good town leading and youre in the wrong"

along with just, gut. gut really likes some of his posts and at the same time gut thinks chicago has been much wolfier since claiming so I just lean that way in my opinion that theres exactly one wolf between the 2

I wouldn't mind seeing Pooky getting a little love AKA pressure for now.

VOTE: Pooky

Where are you on that, Medeia?

So just to clarify you're not open currently to pressuring Pooky right now with a vote?

oh i generally vote when i wish for the person i am voting for to be eliminated or at the very least to claim just seen/caused too too many disasters

So is that like a yes or a no?

that is a no

i do not wish for pooky to claim or be eliminated right now so i will not be voting for pooky at this time

But it's just pressuring, right?

Who said anything about claiming or being eliminated right now?

Pooky where are you on this?

Skitter, you're here.

What do you make of this interaction between me and Medeia these last couple pages?

Both interacting AND pressure voting leads to readable content. It's not an either/or thing.

If you want there to be readable content then you should not have any sort of hesistance on casting a pressure vote.

and only one of those things potentially leads to disaster, shrug, like i simply do not get why you think this is mafia indicative of me in anyway

Technically both can lead to disaster, in that if the interacting goes sideways a player could replace-out, so your point is moot.

Pressure voting RARELY leads to disaster on Day 1, especially when it's just TWO.

You're making it look like you're refusing to pressure vote Pooky and I want to know WHY.

Medeia can get incorrectly scumread based on NAI playstyle stuff a lot (a lot of the case against them is just that) like in Angels and Demons which was mentioned
Still feeling dread about their vibes though

pedit: UNVOTE:

Well, her play sucks.

Actively refusing to, I don't know, SCUMHUNT.

I'm not seeing much progression.

VOTE: T3

Game's running out of time. Game's dragging. T3, wanna claim?

*Waves away impending paranoid insanity*

If this f*cker IS Town it's going to be a slog trying to work with this guy.

Is that L-1?

I'm OK with hammering for time, but I want Meuh a chance to speak/claim first.

I am announcing

intent to hammer

to keep this game on track. Need you to start talking Meuh.

Why do you refuse to vote Chicago, Sheep?

these patterns of posting all remind me of how I think of town nurse

[sheepsaysmeep]

idk what I think about the unaware approach to his self-defense

I sort of just bought the unaware approach. and then your post made me think yeah I guess that could totally be faked (im not sure that was actually the point of your post about it) but it's basically null for me

[sheepsaysmeep]

im not super fresh on what pooky/ct stuff there was but I guess I see ur point that he's probably not partnered with either and thus prob town

I have been much much less feeling my scumread of him since start of day

[sheepsaysmeep]

idk I think theres truly a decent chance it's just easy with chicago/t3 and they are very much not doing well so struggling to get into it this day phase lol

[skitter30]

VOTE: chicago

medeia is always town
between chicago/nurse i'm leaning more towards believing chicago
if i vote either it's probably nurse but i don't really want to

[skitter30]

aesthetic

ascetic

[skitter30]

false positives in micros are really really bad because there is no room to really correct for them.

i don't feel like this is a given ?

[skitter30]

also we could just no lim here if we want to get fancy and see who dies with the JK leashed to the Checker

mediea is odd-night
but tbh i don't hate it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also we could just no lim here if we want to get fancy and see who dies with the JK leashed to the Checker

it depends upon who we would otherwise eliminate here i think

like if random nurse is town then it is better for us to eliminate here and stay on evens maybe?

and like, if we miseliminate here and miseliminate at six random nurse could in theory still prevent a nightkill and that one would actually confirm random nurse and prevent a loss

but i don't know if that's likely enough to occur to be worth considering though

and if random nurse is not town i don't know if sleeping does anything towards discovering that fact

but if we're going to eliminate random nurse here anyway then maybe we consider sleeping first? because when we sleep becomes less meaningful i think and! if we were going to eliminate random nurse and random nurse is nightkilled then that is obviously beneficial

I dont believe Random Nurse to be town

however if we leash him to Medea

then we go into night with

RN protecting Medea
Chicago is BP so cant die

and the scum would only be able to shoot in one of the VT claims and that narrows the field for us.

if the scum shoot RN and he's town obviously that also helps us more than if we were to eliminate him here

[skitter30]

like if you crafted a fakeclaim in order to make everything make sense would you then keep saying 'oh scum!me would have claimed vt' (even though it doesn't make any sense) and 'so what is a checker anyway' and 'what guilty what's pooky talking about'? ya know

it's just so off that i don't see it coming from scum
for exactly the reason you described

he crafted the perfect fake-claim to explain away ur result but then says if he were scum he'd claim vt, it doesn't add up and doesn't make sense coming from scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why is him playing dumb not a possible explanation?

[skitter30]

and the scum would only be able to shoot in one of the VT claims and that narrows the field for us.

if the scum shoot RN and he's town obviously that also helps us more than if we were to eliminate him here

like i said i don't hate this

[skitter30]

b/c he's only playing half-dumb in a way that doesn't make sense coherently

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the objective of being mafia is to behave in a way that people believe comes from town

whether it is coherent or logical or makes sense doesn't actually matter