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so I lean hu tao like surprisingly ridiculously strongly in terms of posting
but then it's like,
a) either he's with invisibility and they put on good theater starting.. last day phase lol
b) he never ever mentioned his partners. which is possible but it's just poor play I think and I feel like hu tao is decent and experienced. I guess if this ends up being the case it has to be explained by his general lack of activity/engagement or something
but the second dilemma is. I think he most likely came into today prepped already to push me/std. like, if he is wolf, why????? I feel like we were the two towniest players coming into today..
I think this makes invis/hu tao more likely than peregrine/hutao. the situations I see are:
a) the whole game has been treating peregrine as lock clear. so hu tao comes into today with peregrine assumed lock clear, invis as his partner whom he is against pushing, so it leaves him with std/sheep?
b) maybe I misread what happened and he came into today prepped to push anyone, teamed with peregrine. then when invis claimed bodyguard, he pushed the two non-bg claims because his personal perception of the setup as mafia (possibly fueled by tmi, I could see that) is that there the claim cleared invis so he feels forced to push other two
butttt I think the first case is more likely rip
so I dunno, like, im not aaaaas confident that hu tao wolf is the solution as I was the last time invisibility watched me solve a game like this lol
but like I dont know if I can ever reach more confident in this game's minimal content no matter how hard I think about it lol-
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In post 137, Hu Tao wrote:
Saying that 3 pages in seems very forced. When I had literally had no more than 15 words maybeIn post 135, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I disagree about the setting up lims thing. idk, it's probably not scummy of you, but I think "at least one mafia in these people" or "these ppl could be partners" is like insanely ridiculously common in early pages. for a lot of people it's just how they express reads, + if anything it's towny to me just for having complex thoughts lol. like you said, it's like page 5 and everything is based off of so little, no one actually thinks theyre setting up multiple lims in practicalityIn post 138, Hu Tao wrote: But we can agree to disagree on it
this is basically almost all of hu tao's treatment of me before today, besides responding to some stuff with questionsIn post 1064, Hu Tao wrote:
Suspicious, you might be scumIn post 1052, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
idk I guess I should be voting NM but isnt this more interestingIn post 1044, Hu Tao wrote:
If that's your logic why vote me?In post 1043, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I think it's exactly NM and then one of tao/invis but theyre not w/w
I feel very confident in this gameview but idk it could be bad just because this game feels very unique to anything ive played before
Norwee is town, one example of why is that I still believe the nurse/owl stuff was def w->v
STD is town, I guess could technically be the blindspot he's just seemed the most based to me and has the "not at all trying to appear town" feel recently that ive correctly used to townread him before
peregrine is just too pure to be mafia and the bodyguard claim was probably town
the other slots felt more scum to me
In post 596, Hu Tao wrote: Invisibility jumping on Bob right away after Norwegian is suspect too. What happened to your previous reads?In post 630, Hu Tao wrote:
Start it by voting this insteadIn post 625, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I don't feel like Bob's response to my FOS is scummy, this is tragic.
I need to view this game from an different angle.
VOTE: invisibility
this is almost all of hu tao posting about invisibility before today besides questioning (no follow-ups on questioning to quote)In post 1036, Hu Tao wrote: Well invisibility that was a quick 180
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That makes one of us. In my point of view he could be trying to pocket me. But unsureIn post 428, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I actually townread std's responses to u lmfaoIn post 942, Hu Tao wrote: UNVOTE:
I actually think std is scum now. But I know we probably won't have enough votes for it
this is what hu tao treatment of std looks like throughout the game - note that this read is more well explained than it appears here, I missed lots of explanation posts because it was hard to command+f for themIn post 1092, Hu Tao wrote:
Right now I think it's between you sheep and NMIn post 1073, Save The Dragons wrote: Hu Tao who do you actually think is scum
in short, I am thinking this very similar treatment of the 3 slots is v/v/v for me/invis/std and hu tao is a power wolf with peregrine. just pushes loads of villagers at the same time, like the whole pushable playerlist, and then leaves his wolf partners alone, like the literal most extreme power wolf
I think if you do this search-through for progressions on some flipped villagers it looks similar too. there is basically never a semblance of something positive expressed - which is like, just really unnatural to me. it is just progressive shading
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this is the type of posting Im supposed to do right before placing a vote like "I swear I thought this through, sorry if wrong pls dont blame me"
except I dont know whether I'd actually put a vote already
but like
why not
im impatient and nothing much else will happen lmao-
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let me read std one more time
I need invis to be more here man-
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I feel like im supposed to hide who my preference is before invis/peregrine say stuff in order to make them more sortable lol
so like it forces invis/peregrine wolf to choose btetween voting their partner versus voting the villa
whereas if hu tao is their partner and im already gonna vote him then they know they should bus-
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and just the more I think about it / look throughIn post 1202, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I think if you do this search-through for progressions on some flipped villagers it looks similar too. there is basically never a semblance of something positive expressed - which is like, just really unnatural to me. it is just progressive shading
it's reinforced that the only times something positive is expressed is very strategic. literally each time he townread someone it was a person under immense pressure, and hu tao didnt actually really defend them hard or try to convince people, he was just like yea btw I personally see them as towny rn
I think it can be explained literally Perfectly as a wolf style: push all the villagers, but then when someone seems like theres a decent chance they die, pull back and defend. that way, it Doesnt look like you've been pushing villagers all game. you can be like, hey wait, but I defended these people-
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oh my god I remember how to play lylo now.. this is rightIn post 1205, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I feel like im supposed to hide who my preference is before invis/peregrine say stuff in order to make them more sortable lol
so like it forces invis/peregrine wolf to choose btetween voting their partner versus voting the villa
whereas if hu tao is their partner and im already gonna vote him then they know they should bus
youre supposed to have a vote order of scummiest to towniest, like a claim order
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why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find
i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me-
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he didn't name three people thoughIn post 1190, Hu Tao wrote:
And this is the clearest slip of all time. Invis do you understand why this is a slip? From sheep's point of view there is 2 mafia in 4 people confirmed. So if he names 3 people there is confirmed 1 mafia in them. There is no reason to say "I think" in that situationIn post 1123, sheepsaysmeep wrote: im not a vt
and I think it means there must be mafia in hu tao / ???peregrine?????
because that would be like, a ridiculous number of town non-vanillasInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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this is an interesting good point lolIn post 1209, Save The Dragons wrote: why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find
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hi I'm still kinda lost but I'm leaning more towards Hu Tao scum I think. The Bob defense thing felt pretty unnatural like it could be setting up for this. Also reading Hu's iso I'm having trouble actually seeing like, solvingInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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The ??? Is the 3rd person but that's besides the point. For your point of view there is a confirmed scum between me and std. Do you seriously not see me steering the votes away from Bob day 2?In post 1210, Invisibility wrote:
he didn't name three people thoughIn post 1190, Hu Tao wrote:
And this is the clearest slip of all time. Invis do you understand why this is a slip? From sheep's point of view there is 2 mafia in 4 people confirmed. So if he names 3 people there is confirmed 1 mafia in them. There is no reason to say "I think" in that situationIn post 1123, sheepsaysmeep wrote: im not a vt
and I think it means there must be mafia in hu tao / ???peregrine?????
because that would be like, a ridiculous number of town non-vanillas-
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like this feels so awkward when Hu was derailing a mall train* and guiding us on to more or less nothingIn post 1039, Hu Tao wrote: Well to be fair. A few of you wanted Bob beginning of yesterday and I derailed that fast. And hem was towntelling at the end and I tried to derail that. Not sure what else to say
Spoiler: * these things
Peregrine is probably scum cuz I assume the other bodyguard claim is scumsInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Hu what happened to your suspicion of meInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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Also look at my reaction to hme claiming bodyguard finder, I was initially suspect of it but then realized it was to help find town and my role was to help find scum.-
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I suspected sheep and StD more. I'll quoteIn post 1217, Invisibility wrote: Hu what happened to your suspicion of me-
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I feel like the NRG or whoever want there to some games where the traffic analyst only gets positive results on scum so that it's never a sure thing that masons or a neighborhood exist or whatever. Still more likely to not be the case but like not totally unlikelyIn post 1209, Save The Dragons wrote: why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find
i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on meInvisibility is actually AWESOME!-
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This is from yesterday. Proving I would check in one of those 2 since N_M was eliminated.In post 1092, Hu Tao wrote:
Right now I think it's between you sheep and NMIn post 1073, Save The Dragons wrote: Hu Tao who do you actually think is scum
Here saying to wait for tomorrow to claim because I knew I could possibly get an innocent or guilty.In post 1093, Hu Tao wrote:
No. I think wait till tomorrowIn post 1083, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I suck at mech so don't ask me.In post 1080, sheepsaysmeep wrote: does anyone know if today is the day we're supposed to massclaim?? I feel like it roughly is??
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this is interesting to me, can u explain it a bit moreIn post 1216, Invisibility wrote: Peregrine is probably scum cuz I assume the other bodyguard claim is scums
like I guess from my pov theres gotta be scum between the two bodyguards. but earlier in the game I was thinking a mafia bodyguard makes no sense. and I do believe that peregrine is a bodyguard-
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it's fake though but i see your pointIn post 1220, Invisibility wrote:
I feel like the NRG or whoever want there to some games where the traffic analyst only gets positive results on scum so that it's never a sure thing that masons or a neighborhood exist or whatever. Still more likely to not be the case but like not totally unlikelyIn post 1209, Save The Dragons wrote: why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find
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