Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Radical Rat]

Well, the cult leader won't have an original role, plus if we pool together actions and results we might have a way to find cult from the claims that way.

An obvious example, though one that can't really happen anymore, is if Wheme had gotten a result of no PT N1, and then CSF got a result of yes PT N2, which basically means the target was either cult recruited or a traitor.

Other things that might still be possible would be things like rolecop, gunsmith, bloodhound, people added to suspicious neighborhoods, the role that reveals non-Town in Nightmares, etc.

I think we're PROBABLY okay waiting until tomorrow, but a massclaim is definitely still good for hunting cult/3P

[usesPython]

Cult isn't the same as mafia. Even in a multiball scenario, 2 1/2 mafia either requires a near vanilla town team or extraordinarily overpowered mafia team. Standard balance in single ball is probably 4 to 4 1/2 mafia in 19p. For multiball, I'd expect closer to a full 3 members (with moderate powers) per scum team to be standard.

Wait I think we're misunderstanding each other, we're saying there's 2 mafia + traitor + CL + 0-2 cultists

still alive

[KatyKimFanClub]

Wait I think we're misunderstanding each other, we're saying there's 2 mafia + traitor + CL + 0-2 cultists

still alive

With 13 players left, we're looking at between 7 and 9 town members?

Tomorrow we would probably expect another factional kill and movement towards 2 cultists (going to hedge and say that cult is going to be capped at 3 for now maybe with like an odd night or x-shot mechanism).

Assuming factional kill on town and miselim, we'd have less than 50% town possibly?

Maybe it's right to massclaim today then even if we think it improves our elim odds by a very small amount. It's also possible that massclaim helps us determine relative strength of cult/mafia based on claimed roles.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I actually have no clue if this is true, but massclaim seems pretty good in a role madness game? If we do it we should do it soon though.

[Ircher]

Cult isn't the same as mafia. Even in a multiball scenario, 2 1/2 mafia either requires a near vanilla town team or extraordinarily overpowered mafia team. Standard balance in single ball is probably 4 to 4 1/2 mafia in 19p. For multiball, I'd expect closer to a full 3 members (with moderate powers) per scum team to be standard.

Wait I think we're misunderstanding each other, we're saying there's 2 mafia + traitor + CL + 0-2 cultists

still alive

Ah, I see now. That makes more sense.

[Ranger]

I agree with 2770

[Ranger]

I know I was pushing it, but I think specifically the "Ranger using puns is crumbing/signaling" take started with someone else.

The two I remember bringing it up prior to Kyoko Kirigiri were usesPython and Morning Tweet.

It’s possible it wasn’t someone who brought it up, rather, instead, someone who saw the conversation and decided to not mirror the existing town thoughts.

[Ranger]

Nightmare wise for conftown we have:

• Ranger
  
• Radical Rat
  
• usesPython

Wait, are you and Ranger confirmed town mechanically or otherwise? What did I miss?

I mean I do townread both of you but why conftown?

Oh, I’m an IC. I don’t particularly feel like reparaphrasing a third time especially on mobile, so just know; I can reveal myself as town on any day phase now.

There’s more to my role; that’s the pertinent part. Not sure what I should share. Mafia know, because I claimed N1; unless the 3p was present or recruited a member present N1, any 3p wouldn’t.

[Morning Tweet]

Lol missed everything abt ranger/rr like Dragon but it isssss what it isssss

Ranger whats the point of not revealing? Just curious

im really curious why camelSnivy is sus to people il probably refocus on that later

[usesPython]

im really curious why camelSnivy is sus to people il probably refocus on that later

I think StD is more sus than Snivy going by memory but we still need to do a reread

[usesPython]

Ranger whats the point of not revealing? Just curious

Cult would be throwing the game if they converted her before revealing because once ELO hits we just tell her to reveal and if she's culted she just dies

[usesPython]

like until she reveals the only reason for her to get culted is if cult need her dead

[usesPython]

Actually nvm, Ranger are you 1-shot IC or just IC in general? cause if it's not 1-shot you can just reveal every day

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Flea

I'm usually wrong when I vote Flea but Dragon's convinced me, this time.

I do remember Flea having certain catch up posts that usually go alongside faer game, they're missing. I've never played with Flea!Scum, ergo big money elimination?

You definitely have played with scum me, and Ibdont have the spoons or tech to make my big musical posts like I normally would.

Scum me normally puts more effort in because I dont like a cheap win

[Flea The Magician]

Tl;dr: One town person got shot by our mason miller vig, Drew was an elite bodyguard that took out Titus while saving someone else. Kirigiri got given an invention of bulletproof mason, but didn't get it properly, and thus was proven to be scum and eliminated. And now we're at today...

Saving this one for later...

[usesPython]

Tl;dr: One town person got shot by our mason miller vig, Drew was an elite bodyguard that took out Titus while saving someone else. Kirigiri got given an invention of bulletproof mason, but didn't get it properly, and thus was proven to be scum and eliminated. And now we're at today...

Saving this one for later...

btw it's very likely Drew targeted us based on his posts in Nightmare 1

[Flea The Magician]

i fucked up.

catching up now

Probably.

[usesPython]

God Flea's legit gonna be impossible to sort with that ISO

[Flea The Magician]

Not always a bad thing.

Actions speak louder than words and what have you.

[Flea The Magician]

I know that IC list of yours has room for expansion

[camelCasedSnivy]

kk im bored

VOTE: Abnegation

[Ranger]

Actually nvm, Ranger are you 1-shot IC or just IC in general? cause if it's not 1-shot you can just reveal every day

It's one-shot.

[Ranger]

{Radical Rat}
{usesPython}
{Rautherdir}
{DragonEater70}
{KatyKimFanClub}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{camelCasedSnivy}
{Flea The Magician}
{Save The Dragons, Morning Tweet}
{Abnegation}
{Ircher}

Current reads. Should be noted usesPython's effectively on the RR tier, and is only on a technicality lower. RR's confirmed mason, usesPython's only suspected-N1-kill. With

very

compelling evidence, yet technically unconfirmed.

[Korina]

Lorem

[Korina]

Ipsum