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[PenguinPower]

i'm not sure why you think everything i say is a "gotcha" but that comes across as nervousness

[KatyKimFanClub]

I think it's just your tone. Sorry if you're not trying to come across the way I just think a lot of the zingers paired with the ...'s make me feel a little bit dismissed?

[Skygazer]

make me feel a little bit dismissed?

well now i feel plagiarized

[KatyKimFanClub]

about to go back to the grind but generally nonchalantness is a scum tell from my experience; nsg has caught me a few times bc i didn't engage in people scum reading early me in hopes it would just go away. town usually engage more when they get scumread despite the unlikeliness of getting eliminated early

tbh your defensiveness is fairly scummy

Discord amongst the brain trust...

[PenguinPower]

yes, and i am greener so i win

[Skygazer]

new signature idea: "sorry, i wasn't thinking when i wrote this"

[Skygazer]

yes, and i am greener so i win

enjoy it while it lasts

i still feel the sting of coming back to a normal uncolored name after site flaking

[Skygazer]

at least i have my title ;-;

[PenguinPower]

i'm actually looking forward to not accidentally seeing information that compromises a game or accidentally posting in a locked thread or accidentally banning someone

[Skygazer]

banning people was my favorite part

i mean uh everything was working correctly with the GTKAS role and i definitely was not able to do that

[Skygazer]

hilariously i did have the ability to post in the ban thread but only from the GTKAS forum

[Skygazer]

perhaps i am saying too much

anyways i'm fine w a katy yeet today as well

[PenguinPower]

perhaps i am saying too much

it's ok...you weren't thinking when you made that post

[OopsieDaisy]

Don't have the time to properly read through everything right now, but looks like the KKFC push has now given us some proper content to work with. I'm happy with what it's achieved and for now since I'm gonna be afk for a bit, gonna UNVOTE: KKFC and park my vote on VOTE: Kitty.

I want to wait until I have had the time to properly read the Skygazer/PP/KKFC interactions before I commit to the KKFC wagon again.

[Skygazer]

i've seen kitty get elimmed so many times D1 that i kinda wanna trust their whole "hey i put my foot in my mouth a lot so i'm gonna avoid that" thing... for now

[Deltabreedy]

Why Delta?

143 feels like a scum post. 123 also looks kinda LAMIST. At the moment I'm perceiving IAVH as an "easy target" so I don't like Delta's vote there. And Delta's getting back from V/LA today so I thought it'd be a good time to drop some pressure

Meanie. Back in about 3 hours so might catch up properly tonight, maybe tomorrow.

[Deltabreedy]

Why did KKFC reach E-1 with intent?

[Deltabreedy]

Okay I kind of see it on page 10

[KatyKimFanClub]

as of right now i think scum is in kkfc/random nurse/IAVH/Delta

This is such a big narrowing of a scumpool and it's exactly everyone who isn't on the wagon or hasn't interacted positively with it. I don't really know what it means besides the possibility that Skygazer is that confident in me?
Yes, Iavh is on the wagon, but that vote on me is from the day before and sheeping Daisy's meta read. I don't think it "counts" in that sense.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Skygazer reads a lot like someone who has a strong set of personal heuristics for what is +town and what is +scum and so I think I buy something as aggressive as the really narrow scum pool in 227 and their push on me?

Though if you can narrow down scum to 4 people in 9p you've already won the game.

I'd say its more likely for Skygazer to be town than PP (most confident on these reads) but honestly I'm pretty null on PP.


Only other significant opinion I have is that I'm still upset that Daisy is using a meta read on Page 4 and that it gained traction. Maybe a little +scum as of response to 263?

[Skygazer]

i'm actually usually more timid bc i say stupid shit a lot (see signature) but i've had some "decent town moments" lately so i figure i should trust my reads before and push them harder

[Skygazer]

*reads more

[OopsieDaisy]

Eh, I can see why you scumread for that, but it's very much an intentional decision.

I'm not interested in giving away my reads this early, nor do I care about advancing the game state if I think that the current one is good enough for town. If you would like me to elaborate on my philosophy, I can, but as an example, I think I get more towards solving the game if I can keep disscussion on why Daisy and iavh think a meta read on me is relevant by Page 4 than if I move on to a different topic.

I guess to clarify my position, advancing the game state is generally good, but I don't really see what giving my reads this early would really do. We have a lot of time left in the day to gather information and I don't think there's been enough time in the game for me to have a significant change in opinion on people's alignments yet.

Your disinterest in wanting to give away reads pings me super hard. Personally I'd consider that kinda anti-town, because by not placing your reads under the scrutiny on the group, it becomes a lot harder for players to get a read on your slot in the first place. I think this attutide helps your slot, but hurts the group as a whole, but I'll concede that's partly my opinion just because of my very open playstyle.

Like idk, we could sit and talk for pages as to whether giving a meta read out Page 4 is optimal, but I don't see the use in that when there's much better discussions to be had within the game.

In 255, you're scumreading me for jumping to assuming timing tells refer to possible mafia partners? To be honest, I thought this was the dominant takeaway from looking at people's timing in their posts.

Just as a fun teaser, Daisy do you want to answer why it would be reasonable for me to think this?

I don't think I 100% understand what you're saying here, but I can talk about timing tells if you want? I'm not someone who considers timing to be a massive tell, at least on a micro scale. I liked PP's burst of posts like Skygazer did, but moreso for the enthusiastic gamesolvy energy I saw rather than because it was a burst of posts fired out quickly if that makes sense?

(if not and i've completely misunderstood what a timing tell is can someone tell me lol)

so why aren't you voting?

Well, I've been pretty busy defending myself. Yes, I could have voted my strongest scumread and use my vote as an indicator of my reads but I was hoping to finish this conversation thread before moving to offense.

Whilst I didn't like the first post in the ones I've quoted, this does make sense. Some players do definitely have that defence/offence mode thing, myself included, and I buy that when you're under pressure you wanna fight that off before pressuring others. I want reads from you at the very least so I think easing up the pressure on your slot for now makes sense even if I have my worries.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I gave reads in 294.

[OopsieDaisy]

In terms of the people actively pushing, for the most part I like em but naturally if a wagon gains traction and it originated from a read I made, I'm gonna be happy.

Elements sticks out like a sore thumb for intending to hammer, and I'm side-eyeing em for that, but also this isn't out of character for em as either alignment so I'm not rly sure how to read it?

I like PP this game and their discussion with KKFC didn't make me doubt my read on em at all.

Skygazer jumping on initially felt a bit opportunistic but I could buy the switch in POV once it was explained in the thread.

Anyways it's 5am here I cannot sleep but i've gotta try. If my posts were too rambly blame the time and the stress of the day I just had lol.