Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Morning Tweet]

Wouldn't the point of redirecting to someone like a miller just to create pointless results? Assuming the redirection was targetted at all

[Morning Tweet]

I dont really think Katy is a cultist.. he's just the person I'd be least surprised to learn practices those kind of rituals

Rauth's role does sound like one that scum would have, I agree with Ircher on that. Why Rauth would trueclaim it, I'm unsure. Maybe the threat of rolecopping?

[usesPython]

I dont really think Katy is a cultist.. he's just the person I'd be least surprised to learn practices those kind of rituals

Rauth's role does sound like one that scum would have, I agree with Ircher on that. Why Rauth would trueclaim it, I'm unsure. Maybe the threat of rolecopping?

I mean with Rauth suggesting Mafia Alarmist as a serious role he might literally just not get why his role is scummy

[Morning Tweet]

I would probably vote Ircher because I'm not sure there's a cult yet so role could be fake. (Scary thing to say)

I also think theres a reasonable chance the investigation on him fails for a scum motivated reason

Granted Rauth's role is scummy

pedit: Mafia Alarmist.. (i skipped over a lot of the mech talk)

VOTE: Ircher
I believe this power to be scum (if beneficial to town, it is immensely more useful in a non-cult scum's hands to keep key town players from getting culted without overlapping on scum already immune to culting)

I also have a theory about this game after KKFC's claim.... I'm not sure we actually have a cult. Well, either that, or we found the recruiter already.

I agree with the second quote

It'd be highly unusual for mafia to lose members through culting. Cause then the cult knows the entire mafia team from one action and its just generally fucked

The power itself isn't really scum it just seems like the kind of thing scum might fake claim

[usesPython]

It'd be highly unusual for mafia to lose members through culting. Cause then the cult knows the entire mafia team from one action and its just generally fucked

If there is a cult present, or cult-like mechanics, they cannot recruit groupscum with living partners.

[usesPython]

Feels like it'd probably be a good idea for people to re-read the setup at this point

[usesPython]

Also

This game is a role madness. There are no vanilla roles, nor any functionally vanilla roles.

If Ircher is real we have Cult

[Ranger]

Well, you have my day action claim already (the IC).
Let me know if you want me to pop it.

For the missing part, the night action is a doctor protect. N1, I protected usesPython, but per the mod, that means I was certainly roleblocked. (Drew wouldn’t have died protecting usesPython if my protection succeeded.)

N2, I protected you.

One of my modifiers is anonymously playing a game against an anonymous opponent. Whoever wins gets a boon to their role. Mine is upgrading my doctor, to make it not fail. (I lost N1.)

Can paraphrase later, bit busy rn.

Apologies. Friend emergency. I'll said N2, I forfeited thanks to friend emergency.

I have the Unique modifier as well.

There's four parts to my role in total. An IC action, described in full in the N1 Nightmare.
A doctor, which can be upgraded for the night by winning the game.
The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.
Then the chess game. If I win, my doctor cannot fail under any circumstances. I don't know who I'm playing against.

[usesPython]

Then the chess game. If I win, my doctor cannot fail under any circumstances. I don't know who I'm playing against.

should have pulled up stockfish if there's nothing in your PM against using a chess engine

[usesPython]

I can see Ircher fake claiming here, I can also see Rauth trueclaiming as scum here.

[Ranger]

I'm an investigative role. I targeted aureal n1 and got an innocent. I targeted no one last night because I'm dumb and forgot to. Will clarify if requested.

I realize Save The Dragons is cleared by camelCasedSnivy.

I'd still prefer STD give this clarification given the number of investigatives we've already got.

[usesPython]

The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.

What does this mean?

[Abnegation]

Wouldn't the point of redirecting to someone like a miller just to create pointless results? Assuming the redirection was targetted at all

if it's a scum redirect, they might want to create pointless results.

[Ranger]

Yeah we saw the first one which is why we took RR at face value when they said you're town

It also seemed obvious to us Abnegation was Radical Rat's mason partner; we deliberately ignored any mason-based suspicions as to not tip the scum off, in case the scum didn't see what we did. After RR revealed they artificially had Aureal high, didn't take a genius to realize RR had Abnegation, a player in Kyoko Kirigiri's proposal, artificially high. But I digress.

[Abnegation]

i agree alarmist could be fake, but even then, it's very likely there's still cult and i'm worried about them becoming a problem.
not sure how much i can elaborate, but for now i will just say i think katy's claim is really weird and likely to be cult or at least anti-town.

[Ranger]

The Unique modifier, where my role can't reappear no matter what.

What does this mean?

Exactly what Morning Tweet said, and presumably, is applicable to Rautherdir's Absorb.

I'm vouching from my role PM the mechanics they stated about theirs.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think a point against Katy being cultist is that he was willing to target me again last night after I suggested it; I dont rly see a mechanism that benefits from doing that lol

[Ranger]

Do we think Snivy and StD are scum together? Cause if not that clears StD I think

well std would be trying to bus me day 1 and day 2 by that logic

Speaking of, can someone please check the timing on the investigatives to see if their claimed actions match with their dayplay? If their targets make sense going into the night, and their play after supports it?

I'd do it myself normally. I'm...a little preoccupied currently.

[Abnegation]

I think a point against Katy being cultist is that he was willing to target me again last night after I suggested it; I dont rly see a mechanism that benefits from doing that lol

there is that.
as far as i can tell, though, it only applies if the cult works the same way as it did last game. which, i guess, isn't that much of a reach to assume?
idk. it's weird and i'm still sus of it.

[usesPython]

i agree alarmist could be fake, but even then, it's very likely there's still cult and i'm worried about them becoming a problem.
not sure how much i can elaborate, but for now i will just say i think katy's claim is really weird and likely to be cult or at least anti-town.

Yeah but then that would mean we were wrong on reading KKFC as town grumble grumble

[camelCasedSnivy]

kk im bored

VOTE: Abnegation

werent you already voting std?

tbh now that i think about it std and abnegation reads were heavily based off of early gut reads when std was being annoying when voting me

std is town

decided to start sorting it here

[camelCasedSnivy]

softing not sorting

[Ranger]

Ranger didn't mentioned strongwilled jailkeep though, and since it's announcing I think she would know?

I've no information on why my action would've failed.

[usesPython]

I think given that last game there was a 2-shot Nightmare Decider and that no one claimed it here and only Drew was dropped in that it's probably part of a JOAT

[quote=KatyKimFanClub post_id=13850712 post_num=2933 time=<a href="tel:1690312027" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">1690312027</a> user_id=37113]Ranger didn't mentioned strongwilled jailkeep though, and since it's announcing I think she would know?

I've no information on why my action would've failed.
[/quote]

It's possible it succeeded and Titus targeted someone else since Drew was motivated

[Abnegation]

@ranger - there is these from yesterday.

shouldve shot me after what happened last night smh

VOTE: std

im bored

i wanna bw one of aureal/std/maybe ircher? i really dont like ircher especially after trying to push a miller vig but random nurse was so towny

HURT: usesPython, Kyoko Kirigiri, Abnegation, Aureal, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub, Radical Rat

are you willing to replace aureal w someone else

otherwise i can get behind this

HURT: Doctor Drew, usesPython, Abnegation, Aureal, camelCasedSnivy, Save the Dragons, Radical Rat

With this knowledge, we can also conclude that either at least one person on this list is scum, or one person in the nightmare last night is cult. Which to pursue depends on the flip.

my guess is std

oh or aureal i didnt even see them lmao