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[Deltabreedy]

That's the tough love version I suppose.

For me, Happy, having done a brief count you've essentially united the playerbase bar Kitty against you. Playing the troll, chucking around ad hominems and running extremely ill-thought-out gambits is what has done this.

Your attitude this game has stunk, to be honest. Nurse is right when they say that Town got Pissed Off because I certainly thought I was smacking my head against a wall as you failed to acknowledge anything I was saying. I can't speak for everyone but I really do hope you take time to reflect, maybe take on board what we've said and why you've been limmed and implement it in the Newbie Queue, potentially. Please don't be too disheartened at this, but I wholeheartedly encourage you to take it as a learning opportunity.

[OopsieDaisy]

reads if i die:

pp
sky / delta / elements

RN / kitty / KKFC

[Deltabreedy]

I think RH is Aussie so some time until flip.

Can we get readslists from everyone going into twilight ASAP please?

Town

Sky

- I agree with a lot of what they say and the things that I don't, I understand how they come to their conclusions. It's transparent and I'm comfortable talking with them.

Oopsie

- As above.

Me

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Kitty

- Finding this slot hard to read. Get a sense they've coasted D1.

Nurse

- Similar to above, although I think the exasperation directed at Happy was genuine.

Penguin

- Vibes. Something just doesn't sit well with me on this slot and I can't quite define it at present.

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Happy

(No flip yet)

Scum

[OopsieDaisy]

I think RH is Aussie so some time until flip.

Can we get readslists from everyone going into twilight ASAP please?

Town

Sky

- I agree with a lot of what they say and the things that I don't, I understand how they come to their conclusions. It's transparent and I'm comfortable talking with them.

Oopsie

- As above.

Me

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Kitty

- Finding this slot hard to read. Get a sense they've coasted D1.

Nurse

- Similar to above, although I think the exasperation directed at Happy was genuine.

Penguin

- Vibes. Something just doesn't sit well with me on this slot and I can't quite define it at present.

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Happy

(No flip yet)

Scum

opinion on elements?

[Deltabreedy]

You know I was racking my brain trying to think of who I missed, but its cause I put KKFC in twice. Amended below

Town

Sky

- I agree with a lot of what they say and the things that I don't, I understand how they come to their conclusions. It's transparent and I'm comfortable talking with them.

Oopsie

- As above.

Me

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Kitty

- Finding this slot hard to read. Get a sense they've coasted D1.

Nurse

- Similar to above, although I think the exasperation directed at Happy was genuine.

Elements

- Again vibes - I have to go back and re-read but I think this slot is null at the moment (exemplified by the fact I forgot to list them first go around (sorry!))

Penguin

- Vibes. Something just doesn't sit well with me on this slot and I can't quite define it at present.

KKFC

(Flip Dependant) - See #430

Happy

(No flip yet)

Scum

[Skygazer]

i think my last reads list still holds true

[Deltabreedy]

bed time stoned read list:

oopsie
penguin / delta
elements
(this space intentionally left blank)
iamveryhappy / kittytacky / random nurse / katykimfanclub

This one yeah?

[Skygazer]

ye

[Deltabreedy]

Could you put Kitty, RN and KKFC in an order? I dont get the sense that they're even in your mind.

[Skygazer]

kkfc can probably go a tier lower, RN and kitty are probably around the same. i lack confidence at this point

[Skygazer]

to expand, kkfc feels kinda self-servey with their posting, kitty feels like theyre playing it too cautiously but ive seen them get miselimmed many times so i can kinda see why, and i need more from RN.

oopsie, PP and delta ive mindmelded with at some points and oopsie has been blatantly pro town, elements doesnt feel like they have an agenda but theyre my least confident town read

[Skygazer]

rh is australian so it might be a bit, anyone know any good jokes?

[Deltabreedy]

Ferrari fans are a good joke

[OopsieDaisy]

Ferrari fans are a good joke

LMAO

I haven't watched F1 in a while but this gave me a chuckle

[Deltabreedy]

The one thing I've taken from this year's season is how much I dislike the Dutch National Anthem week-in, week-out. I watch the F2 as well and there's still rarely any respite

[OopsieDaisy]

The one thing I've taken from this year's season is how much I dislike the Dutch National Anthem week-in, week-out. I watch the F2 as well and there's still rarely any respite

Yea I don't blame Verstappen but I always tune out of F1 when it just becomes a complete one-horse race at the front. As much as the midfield fights can be rly exciting they never end up the focus on broadcast.

[Deltabreedy]

The one thing I've taken from this year's season is how much I dislike the Dutch National Anthem week-in, week-out. I watch the F2 as well and there's still rarely any respite

Yea I don't blame Verstappen but I always tune out of F1 when it just becomes a complete one-horse race at the front. As much as the midfield fights can be rly exciting they never end up the focus on broadcast.

Its a good Q2 at present - if you can tune in, Q3 in <5 mins.

[OopsieDaisy]

The one thing I've taken from this year's season is how much I dislike the Dutch National Anthem week-in, week-out. I watch the F2 as well and there's still rarely any respite

Yea I don't blame Verstappen but I always tune out of F1 when it just becomes a complete one-horse race at the front. As much as the midfield fights can be rly exciting they never end up the focus on broadcast.

Its a good Q2 at present - if you can tune in, Q3 in <5 mins.

Wait McLaren are doing well again??? Am I dreaming??

[Deltabreedy]

Oh Oopsie they had a tractor for the first 9 races then at Silverstone qualified P2 and P3, Lando was leading for a while. Hungary they almost took a double podium as well. Lando so far is chasing a 3rd consecutive podium.

Get on it haha

[OopsieDaisy]

Oh Oopsie they had a tractor for the first 9 races then at Silverstone qualified P2 and P3, Lando was leading for a while. Hungary they almost took a double podium as well. Lando so far is chasing a 3rd consecutive podium.

Get on it haha

Oh yea I saw their tractor at the start of the year and it defo played a part in me tuning out this year, it looked doomed. Guess I've gotta get my eye back on F1 lmao

[OopsieDaisy]

But yea my fave drivers are Norris, Albon and Russell. I'm biased because I started watching when they entered F1 but I'd protect them with my life ngl they're such fun personalities.

[KatyKimFanClub]

eyy I'm special~

I asked you a question back in #381 and you're now deliberately skirting this.

IAVH has seen that a number of you are townreading this behaviour and has no motivation to change. They can meme their way through D1 and coast through D2 and to be honest I dont know if I have the capacity to townread them for doing absolutely nothing.

I'd also say it'd be pretty easy for scum to park their vote on IAVH because of how they're playing. This is like 3 days now with no game-advancing content, it's easy to justify a vote on them. The fact that a wagon hasn't formed on them tells me one of 2 things:

1- Scum are aware enough to keep Happy around as limbait for D2. They think another wagon can be pushed to completion (IE: KKFC). In this scenario, I would say that KKFC earns a townread from me.
2 - (My Preferred Solve on this) That Happy is scum, able to act irreverently and be townread for doing a whole load of not much and have their vote parked on a popular wagon. Their vote is on KKFC.

I'm content with removing KKFC from my lim pool for today based on this, as I think that either way, the associatives paint KKFC as town not scum. There's flaws with this logic, but I do think this is where my vote is going to stay for some time.

I like this for reasons beyond the fact that KKFC and townread are in the same sentence. IAVH is clearly in WIFOM territory.

[KatyKimFanClub]

it does seem like it'll come down to kkfc and iavh today, i think both flips would generate info. ignoring associatives and just going off of behavior, i think kkfc's posting looks like it has a self-serving agenda behind it compared to iavh who is just being difficult on purpose despite the wagon on them. me thinks it makes it more likely that kkfc will flip scum than iavh

That's just how I sound as town, idk.

[KatyKimFanClub]

good luck town, II've given you some hints in the most unorthodox way.

If you're town then you need to make the information more clear for people. Scum already knows alignments and we don't, so if you have some sort of information or soulread you should just say it.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Readslist:


I think I like Skygazer's slot a little less than I did yesterday. For some reason his initial reaction to iavh soft and then move to 451 doesn't seem like the most realistic town thought process. I don't think 3) in that post is ever happening unless I'm the one counterclaiming as scum. Also, if iavh softs as PR without hardclaiming, then scum, as the team with more information, is just at such a huge advantage in N1 imo. Maybe I'm thinking about Newbie games where the setup is basically confirmed within a few small configurations though. I don't really think anything bad of them setting up a flip on me tomorrow after this. That's consistent with the rest of their gameplay.

Overall:

townlean

Daisy's play definitely seems towny, but now I'm starting to be a little more skeptical mainly because I reread 393 again. I think wagon dynamics on iavh also play a part. If iavh flips scum I'm pretty happy saying Daisy is

town

.

Different from my original reason. I don't think my meta read really holds much ground anymore? Because whilst you have been defensive and reactive (things that my biases go grrr at), you've not been passive and that was the crux of my read on Page 4.

Honestly, I hate 393 because it seems inconsistent with the rest of Daisy's play. For one, they clearly value meta as a way to help evaluate people. 393 goes against that, basically saying "look this meta read was wrong", but there's this other heuristic that I think is naturally scummy. The thing is, in my defense I can either be passive or defensive/reactive, and it looks like no matter what I was going to get scumread by Daisy for one. Maybe this is an oversight (I could honestly see it), but the way in which Daisy is evaluating me in this post feels to me like I'm getting set up.

Overall (assuming iavh town flip):

scumlean

I'm pretty happy to say Delta is

town

for now. I don't really know why but it's just a vibes thing at this point.

Null-ish on Elements and Kitty, but I actually think Elements is more

town

between the two.

I think Random Nurse can a sneaky

scum

slot here? I think I'll know more and give a better opinion once IAVH flips because then I can read the early interactions between the two a lot better.

Readslist kind of rushed since twilight probably coming soon (RH australian time zone so I have some time I think).