Mini 2307 | Songs from Glee! | Endgame

[Elements]

Bloop

[Random Nurse]

Do you think the scum team is me/pp?

To be honest I had been Townreading you, but then you instantly put me at L-1 for voting PP.

Now I don't know where you stand.

[Random Nurse]

Do you think the scum team is me/pp?

I was thinking it could be PP and Skygazer, assuming there's only 2.

[Elements]

Do you think the scum team is me/pp?

I was thinking it could be PP and Skygazer, assuming there's only 2.

My 2 top town reads!
Woo!

[Random Nurse]

so in the end you still have nothing more than "gut" despite me "twisting your words."

where's my wall of text...I feel so left out.

I do feel like you were twisting my words. And like other players mentioned I do feel like you're trying to control this game.

Day 1 all I have are gut vibes and whatever meaningful actions I can observe. To be frank I don't feel like spending hours on making a wall post for you when clearly they're not valued or used and to be quite honest I don't feel like wasting my time and energy on it right now.

[Random Nurse]

Do you think the scum team is me/pp?

I was thinking it could be PP and Skygazer, assuming there's only 2.

My 2 top town reads!
Woo!

*shrugs*

[PenguinPower]

how am I trying to control the game?

[Random Nurse]

how am I trying to control the game?

Well at least twice you asked players who'd they vote and then quickly asked why they weren't voting there. That to me feels like subtle manipulation of other players.

[Random Nurse]

266 and 269 is an example of this.

[Random Nurse]

403 you try to get someone to vote too.

[Random Nurse]

643 you tried to make me vote too when you knew I was paranoid and wasn't sure if you were Scum or not.

[Random Nurse]

And in 645 I'm not going to have a *hard stance* on anyone period Day 1. I felt that expectation was unfair: you know I have nothing tangible to work with.

[Elements]

Why is asking people to vote scum indicative?

[Random Nurse]

652: I don't like feeling like I HAVE to vote when I'm unsure and don't know who I should vote, because I can't tell who's who because it's so early.

[Random Nurse]

Why is asking people to vote scum indicative?

I feel like it's manipulative, like you're trying to get them to DO something they're otherwise unsure about. Especially so when the person you're asking struggles bad during Day 1.

[Random Nurse]

As for 662 I felt it was a low-blow trying to compare me to IAVH.

[Random Nurse]

743 I do Scumread players jumping on my wagon because I believe potential Scum perceive me as an easy target because they know I struggle having activity.

[Random Nurse]

And yeah a lot of it does have to do with paranoia because I suspect if you're Scum you're good at being Scum, and I can't remember who exactly said it but one of the other players here mentioned that Scum PP tends to try to take control of the game and manipulate other players.

[PenguinPower]

so trying to get people to take action to support their stances, of which I did not comment or try to influence, is controlling the game and not just...trying to get them to take action to support THEIR stated stances...

got it.

[PenguinPower]

scum!PP does neither of those things which in the case doesn't really matter because I am doing neither of those things

uh oh, I must be scum

[Random Nurse]

so trying to get people to take action to support their stances, of which I did not comment or try to influence, is controlling the game and not just...trying to get them to take action to support THEIR stated stances...

got it.

scum!PP does neither of those things which in the case doesn't really matter because I am doing neither of those things

uh oh, I must be scum

Well, I do kind of see it as trying to control/manipulate the game. If you think that makes me Scum for Scumreading you for this, well OK then. I don't know if you're Town or Scum, so I don't know your exact motivations for trying to nudge players to *do* things.

[PenguinPower]

I think you're scum due to a combination of your lack of doing anything yesterday, being off the iavh wagon, keeping your options as open as possible until you were voted and then snap calling both of those players scum with no backing beyond gut, and being extremely defensive.

you thinking I'm trying to control/manipulate the game is a very small part of why I think you're scum

[Random Nurse]

I think you're scum due to a combination of your lack of doing anything yesterday, being off the iavh wagon, keeping your options as open as possible until you were voted and then snap calling both of those players scum with no backing beyond gut, and being extremely defensive.

you thinking I'm trying to control/manipulate the game is a very small part of why I think you're scum

Well, activity is not indicative of alignment and I am an extremely busy person. You Scumread me for being off the IAVH wagon? I suspect if I had voted him you'd be suspecting me FOR voting for him. Gut is bread and butter of Day 1: why ignore this? You perceive it as defensiveness: that's NAI.

[PenguinPower]

not your activity - you not doing anything when you were here

and yes, as I have previously stated, I think one scum was on and one scum was off and of the off I think you're the most likely followed by skygazer.

we're not on day 1 anymore but you continue to be "gut"

[PenguinPower]

this is likely an unproductive exercise but imma keep talking with you anyway