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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:41 am

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In post 949, Skygazer wrote: i feel like half of the words in oopsie's iso are dedicated to KKFC
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:18 am

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In post 940, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 938, Elements wrote: So you townread sky
From my POV you're not scum with Sky because the intent to hammer post would then make no sense
could you elaborate on this because i don't see the connection
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:32 am

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In post 951, Skygazer wrote:
In post 940, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 938, Elements wrote: So you townread sky
From my POV you're not scum with Sky because the intent to hammer post would then make no sense
could you elaborate on this because i don't see the connection
So with scum!El, I pride myself in being able to find the agenda behind their posting, because scum!El always has an agenda.

Now, El revealed in Day 1 that the "intent to hammer" post had an agenda, they said it was a play made to force reactions out of the people on the wagon and to try and flush out any teammates trying to bus. That's the townie agenda they presented.

I think a scum!El would make that post if scum!KKFC was their partner, with the agenda being actually to unwind the wagon by scaring players' votes off of it with the threat of a hammer.

But where I've been stuck the whole game is that I don't see what a scum!Elements has to gain from making an intent to hammer post that early *if* KKFC isn't their partner. Like why? Where's that scum agenda?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:07 am

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Spoiler: day one VCs with color
Page 2
Elements
(2) - OopsieDaisy, Elements
kittytacky
(2) -
random nurse
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penguinpower

penguinpower
(1) -
iamveryhappy

random nurse
(1) -
kittytacky


Not Voting
(3) -
deltabreedy
, KatyKimFanClub,
skygazer


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Elements
(3) - OopsieDaisy, Elements,
skygazer

kittytacky
(2) -
random nurse
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penguinpower

penguinpower
(1) -
iamveryhappy

random nurse
(1) -
kittytacky

skygazer
(1) -
deltabreedy


Not Voting
(1) - KatyKimFanClub

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(2) -
random nurse
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penguinpower

iamveryhappy
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deltabreedy
, Elements
KatyKimFanClub
(2) - OopsieDaisy,
iamveryhappy

Elements
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kittytacky


Not Voting
(1) - KatyKimFanClub

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iamveryhappy
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penguinpower

iamveryhappy
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deltabreedy
, Elements
kittytacky
(1) -
random nurse

random nurse
(1) -
kittytacky

deltabreedy
(1) -
skygazer


Not Voting
(1) - KatyKimFanClub

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(3) - OopsieDaisy,
iamveryhappy
,
skygazer

iamveryhappy
(2) -
deltabreedy
, Elements
kittytacky
(1) -
random nurse

random nurse
(1) -
kittytacky


Not Voting
(2) - KatyKimFanClub,
penguinpower


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iamveryhappy
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iamveryhappy
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kittytacky
(2) -
random nurse
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random nurse
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Not Voting
(2) - KatyKimFanClub,
penguinpower


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random nurse
, OopsieDaisy
random nurse
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Not Voting
(2) - KatyKimFanClub,
deltabreedy


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random nurse
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deltabreedy
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Not Voting
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, KatyKimFanClub

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iamveryhappy
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, KatyKimFanClub, OopsieDaisy
random nurse
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kittytacky
(1) -
random nurse

deltabreedy
(1) - Elements

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random nurse
(1) -
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kittytacky
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OopsieDaisy
(1) -
iamveryhappy


Not Voting
(1) - OopsieDaisy

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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:11 am

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looking at this, i'm still thinking it's kkfc and oopsie. oopsie unvoted kkfc when they were placed to E1 and proceeded to back both kkfc counterwagons (random nurse / iavh). if elements were scum with kkfc, they weren't doing a very good job at fueling counterwagons. if oopsie and elements were scum together i don't see much reasoning for oopsie to hop off of kkfc other than trying to appear townie.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:12 am

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i'll need to think a bit more on elements vs kkfc. i think oopsie is always scum here though.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:16 am

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gah i second guess myself too much
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:16 am

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In post 955, Skygazer wrote: i'll need to think a bit more on elements vs kkfc. i think oopsie is always scum here though.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:17 am

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In post 956, Skygazer wrote: gah i second guess myself too much
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:47 am

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i guess what it comes down to for me at the moment is oopsie and kkfc don't really seem to be approaching each other that naturally in their isos. oopsie devoted a lot of words to justifying their kkfc read. they even admitted here that they might look better from a kkfc flip which makes me think they had distancing on the mind:
In post 721, OopsieDaisy wrote: and kkfc is a very selfish flip that imo tells us a lot about the game (helps me solve slots like el, or pp/skygazer who were pushing there. obvs for others it might help sort me too cause i was also on that push)
there's also the fact that oopsie seemed to give up on their kkfc scumread d2 but shifted back onto them with little explanation when pressured to vote. i think oopsie's RN read also felt kind of tmi.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:55 am

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like oopsie spent a lot of time shading kkfc but didnt really commit or seem to want to actually push the wagon through
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:58 am

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In post 960, Skygazer wrote: like oopsie spent a lot of time shading kkfc but didnt really commit or seem to want to actually push the wagon through
I did want to push it through end of Day 2 but no one else was.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:00 am

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Like my vote has been on KKFC more than any other slot in this game prolly
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:06 am

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is there anything that made you lose your PP suspicions besides the crumb?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:08 am

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In post 963, Skygazer wrote: is there anything that made you lose your PP suspicions besides the crumb?
What PP suspicions?
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:09 am

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I just checked up on PP in my ISO post at the start of Day 2 because of Delta's suspicions. Wanted to see if I shared the same worries after a look-over or not.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:10 am

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In post 961, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 960, Skygazer wrote: like oopsie spent a lot of time shading kkfc but didnt really commit or seem to want to actually push the wagon through
I did want to push it through end of Day 2 but no one else was.
you laid down your first kkfc vote 48 hours before deadline (after singing a tune about how your read had changed on them) and didn't do any real pushing. when kkfc got some strong pressure on them day one you jumped ship for two townie wagons (rn / iavh).
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:12 am

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In post 966, Skygazer wrote:
In post 961, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 960, Skygazer wrote: like oopsie spent a lot of time shading kkfc but didnt really commit or seem to want to actually push the wagon through
I did want to push it through end of Day 2 but no one else was.
you laid down your first kkfc vote 48 hours before deadline (after singing a tune about how your read had changed on them) and didn't do any real pushing. when kkfc got some strong pressure on them day one you jumped ship for two townie wagons (rn / iavh).
What do you think i could have done differently in that scenario to get a successful push on KKFC through? I tried my hardest lmao
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:12 am

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In post 964, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 963, Skygazer wrote: is there anything that made you lose your PP suspicions besides the crumb?
What PP suspicions?
ah misrembered how that went down
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:13 am

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Like I was put in a situation where because of my RN townread that had popped up and Kitty getting cleared by PP, I had to reevaluate my entire townpool. KKFC and Elements went from an outside possibility to a very likely team because of that thought process.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:13 am

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In post 836, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 835, PenguinPower wrote: I meant vote, but thanks
VOTE: KKFC
In post 850, OopsieDaisy wrote: Oh shit there's only 20 hours left
you could have done some pushing or solving between these posts but there was just radio silence
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:15 am

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granted that was like "the weekend" but idk
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:18 am

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In post 970, Skygazer wrote:
In post 836, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 835, PenguinPower wrote: I meant vote, but thanks
VOTE: KKFC
In post 850, OopsieDaisy wrote: Oh shit there's only 20 hours left
you could have done some pushing or solving between these posts but there was just radio silence
I get that but I had both done solving in my post previous to the vote, and spent the entire next day on it. I think this is a bit of an unfair criticism. I came to a realisation late in the day and tried to push it through as best I could.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:22 am

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Like why as scum do I make a big song and dance about reading RN as town and push onto my scumpartner if the counterwagon is me? Isn't it just 10 times easier for me to sheep PP there on RN?

I guess it helps associatives but it's a hella risky play.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:38 am

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hmm fair points

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